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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:03 GMT
#865
I fucking knew it. Such bullshit.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:03 GMT
#866
Zey I hope you're happy.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:10 GMT
#873
GB:

"Last point: Shockey is listening to him. Why don't they just focus on voting rayn/TT instead of being upset all the time?"

Because we literally had some one who only played with Rayn... Like Zey didn't even try. She just stuck her fingers in her ear and was "LALALALA" There's no reason to keep trying after that. This game is very upsetting because Rayn abused it, and knew Zey wasn't going to go against him...

I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:15 GMT
#878
On June 10 2020 06:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB:

"Last point: Shockey is listening to him. Why don't they just focus on voting rayn/TT instead of being upset all the time?"

Because we literally had some one who only played with Rayn... Like Zey didn't even try. She just stuck her fingers in her ear and was "LALALALA" There's no reason to keep trying after that. This game is very upsetting because Rayn abused it, and knew Zey wasn't going to go against him...

I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again.


I understand you both being upset, but from someone who doesn't know your alignment, it felt suspicious to me.

Edit: I mean, you could've just piled on TT and let Zey decide and come back near deadline. Throwing the game made you look more suspicious


Bro, its not even about being suspicious, she barely played and as soon as Jee died, she immediately backed rayn for no reason. It's ridiculous. She didn't try to read anything that Rayn or Tictock posted, only Vivax and I. She literally only defended Rayn after Jee's death.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:16 GMT
#881
On June 10 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again.

Well she was the most factually correct poster in the game D3. You and Vivax just created bullshit on the fly (as town lol) and tried to shove it down people's throats. Regardless of if you were right or wrong doesn't matter, i think i would have voted either of you in the end 100 times out of 100 if i was in her position.


So this post was bullshit?

On June 07 2020 09:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On June 06 2020 15:51 Trfel wrote:
I dunno Tictock, I'm having trouble getting much useful information from the posts you spoilered. Sorry

But seriously, I don't know why people really think I am mafia here. I can understand not thinking I am town, but I don't understand why everyone is so convinced I am mafia.

Yes, my activity was quite poor earlier. However, I've changed that now. I'm here, I'm present, I'm playing, I'm contributing quality thoughts. That's more than you can say for many of the players in this game.

So what if I find different things interesting than other people? Isn't that the beauty of the game, that different things stick out to different players? What a boring game it would be otherwise. How does that make me mafia?

Yes, my reads can change quickly. If you want meta, that's been a major mark of my town play the past few years (and unfortunately, is one of the main reasons why my lynch % has increased significantly), because I don't spend the time to review every little thing like I used to, so new information/new perspectives readily changes my reads. Fluid reads is generally considered a towny trait, as mafia have trouble changing their reads quickly. Especially when justified.

The one suspicious thing I've done is being wrong on CopCake. Granted, that was quite poor, and for that I (once again) apologize to all. But understand that I was in a rush to try and find something, as voting is mandatory in this game. Look at my play here, trying to analyze all of the possibilities and figure out the best lynch. This is how I play when I have more time and can analyze things more effectively. But in a five minute window or so, I'm not really sure what you expect from me.

I am really hesitant to say this, because saying this was a huge part of why I got lynched last game, but I'm probably not going to be around much tomorrow Which basically paints a huge target on my back saying "here mafia, come and lynch me." But it's unavoidable, I am busy with my family. Which is a lot of why I am spending so much time tonight trying to figure out the best lynch, because I can't tomorrow.

So there. Do whatever you want. But I think I've played a very reasonable game, I think I've put forth a decent scum pool and as time permits I'll keep working to find the mafia. I encourage everyone to re-evaluate and take a look at what I've posted. I encourage those scumreading Vivax to take another look. I am confident that mafia is riding all of the easy Trfel/Vivax scumreads and not justifying them well, just following thread sentiment (because they aren't well-justified reads). If you lynch me, that's on you.


So Trfel does a last minute switch to Zey but honestly, this was the most useful post of Trfel before he got voted off. I'm on the possible TicTock/? team. Zey and Jee keep voting together which is understandable if they've played together before. They rather piggy back off each other especially with one being AFK most of the time.

D1 Vote:
CopCake (4): Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Trfel, Jockmcplop
Vivax (3): raynpelikoneet, CopCake, TicTock
Trfel (2): Zey, Jeekaka

So if I look here, there's a definite three town on the copcake kill. Vivax to me actually feels very towny here, since town could of easily mislynched here and mafia didn't even want to touch with a twelve foot pool. Rayn sticks to Vivax D1 builds a "rapport" about Vivax to try and continue into D3 lynch.

Now D2 Vote:
Trfel (3): TicTock, Jeekaka, Zey
Zey (2): Vivax, Trfel
Vivax (1): Raynpelikoneet

I see the need for tictock as mafia to vote for Trfel. They need to kill off Trfel and Jee and Zey were easily going to follow since they voted for Trfel anyways in the previous vote. Rayn wasn't going to move because he didn't even want to save Trfel.

It's honestly believable that Tictock and Rayn are the scumteam.


She completely ignored anything we posted.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:19 GMT
#887
On June 10 2020 06:15 Hapahauli wrote:
Regarding the Drama...

As someone who's been in a "helpless" LYLO situation as town, I do sympathize with the raw frustration of watching a game slowly end over 48 hours.

That being said, I didn't get any sense that this game was marred by "cheating" or anything of the sort. It is natural for players to gravitate to what they are familiar with.

A clowny game or two is the price to pay for some new blood on the site. I would caution anyone from driving players away based on a "bad performance" in their first game on TL. I think it is easier for people to shift the blame on one person rather than blaming the town collectively for their mistakes... one person didn't mislynch 3 people single-handedly after all.


It's bullshit because any good player reevaluates their reads with new information, she never did. It was always Vivax and I were mafia while she was pied piper by Rayn...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:24 GMT
#894
On June 10 2020 06:21 Vivax wrote:
Why did she clear TickTock who didn't play for the entire day?
It's obvious she didn't want to lynch him but at the start of the day was still floating him around in mafia combinations.


This... We literally suggested lynching Tictock, and she didn't want too, but some how kept defending Rayn who was also missing for an entire day. The most obvious scum tell, and she completely ignores it.

It's not cheating, but it's definitely abuse of bringing "friends" to play with you.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:25 GMT
#896
How was it bullshit? Our reads were correct no matter what. You and Tictock were mafia, Zey was never going to vote against you, it's simple as that.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:26 GMT
#900
Zey clearly didn't even want to believe the results after Hapa announced it. She was never going to switch to Rayn even if we lynched one mafia correctly.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:30 GMT
#902
On June 10 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 10 2020 06:21 Vivax wrote:
Why did she clear TickTock who didn't play for the entire day?
It's obvious she didn't want to lynch him but at the start of the day was still floating him around in mafia combinations.

Because you filled your D3 reads with bullshit and she thought you are mafia which means i am not because you called me mafia for bullshit reasons and she had no choice other than to vote for shockeyy because i refused to vote for you until the end.

You should actually read the game some time.


It wasn't bullshit reads though, you were mafia...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:47 GMT
#910
"new player" she plays on a different forum with Rayn... She isn't that new.

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/559398-sushi-mafia?view=all#694

It was evident that Rayn shot Jee here right before the night ended, and I asked Zey to reconsider. I even tried to show her how Rayn was mafia, but she never budged.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:49 GMT
#914
On June 10 2020 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You gave up twice in this game, as town.
You don't need to be mad at other people really.


I gave up, but still came back even though I knew the end result 2 days in advance. I literally predicted the game THREE DAYS in advance.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:54 GMT
#919
I never said it was cheating, I call it abusing.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 21:56 GMT
#921
Ignorance is bliss.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-09 22:00:25
June 09 2020 21:59 GMT
#923
On June 10 2020 06:55 Zey wrote:
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Sho wrote:
How was it bullshit? Our reads were correct no matter what. You and Tictock were mafia, Zey was never going to vote against you, it's simple as that.

Good for you being correct. And yep I wasn't going against rayn at least not with reasons "rayn is scum because he is alive" and some made up stuff. If you want me believe someone is scum try to tell good reasons why he is or at least try to discuss about it. There were so many questions that you guys just ignored and that isn't good way to convince anybody.

Sorry for being wrong about mafia but I did my best and in my perspective your and Vivaxs behavior was more scummy than Tictocks and rayns. I didn't vote you or Vivax because rayn is my friend, I did it because I thought you were scums. Sorry for being wrong.


I mean, even if you thought we were scummy, AT LEAST consider the fact that Rayn could of been mafia. You never tried once, and that's what I'm extremely frustrated about.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 22:13 GMT
#934
On June 10 2020 07:10 Zey wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sho wrote:
I mean, even if you thought we were scummy, AT LEAST consider the fact that Rayn could of been mafia.

I told you why I thought that rayn is mafia and was asking you many times why my deduction about him is wrong. How that isn't considering? If you would have been able to give me good reason why my deduction was wrong of course I would have thought rayns role again.


Can you post that? I don’t recall you ever thinking Rayn was possibly mafia.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 22:31 GMT
#952
Talking about HF:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/26252-Season-7-Game-9-Team-Fortress-2-The-Mafia-Championship

His game started.
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