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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
June 09 2020 18:28 GMT
#801
Though it doesn't really matter if we get three peeps on rayn and you and him are scum because you can just last minute switch.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 18:31 GMT
#802
Bye Bye Scum team.
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 18:32 GMT
#803
I seriously thought Tictock would just not show up again, and was ready to lose the game, but Tictock showing up gave me new life to win the game as town for once.
Life?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2020 18:33 GMT
#804
On June 10 2020 03:27 Vivax wrote:
I don't know how you didn't see my massive tantrum TT.

Granted I think both Sho and zey are losing lynches and you aren't questioning why rayn is alive, but killing zey would give me some satisfaction.


I am still skimming/reading what happened since Trfel lynch.

And to be totally honest I just can't look at where the game is at right now and believe Sho is scum. Which means I haven't voted for scum all game, and I'd really like to fix that.
I can take that responsibility.
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 09 2020 18:43 GMT
#805
Okay TicTock, can you read posts #711-#721? I think it's good for making example their bad reasoning. And I will try to tell what happened if you have time.
After those posts Shos answer was:
Sho wrote #723:
“Sure”, basically you and Ticktock are no where to be seen for these two days, yet I’m mafia... it all lies on Zey, and she isn’t going to vote outside of anybody you’re not voting for. This game is pretty much over and I rather not waste my time anymore.

Sho wrote #724:
Literally Rayn shot Jee cause she’s the only one that apparently would go against Rayn. Zey looks like she would never go against Rayn unless Jee says so. It’s ridiculous, but hey, abuse the system!

Sho wrote #725:
I’m going to not come back till d3 is over, I’m not moving my vote. Ticktock sudden absence is telling and Zey would rather ignore it cause Rayn thinks I’m mafia...

So he couldn't argue against my points. As town I would think he would say ok, you have point here or something. Or argue why I'm wrong. He didn't do either he just ignored and get grumpy.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 18:47 GMT
#806
I don't bargain with terrorist (mafia in this case)
Life?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2020 18:50 GMT
#807
On June 10 2020 03:27 Vivax wrote:
Granted I think both Sho and zey are losing lynches and you aren't questioning why rayn is alive, but killing zey would give me some satisfaction.


Actually wait, so you think both your votes end the game, think I could be scum with rayn, but are just cool with letting things go the way the are right now?

Vivax if I am scum here, why in the hell aren't I just letting the game afk on Sho?
I can take that responsibility.
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 09 2020 18:50 GMT
#808
rayn wrote #722:
Its very simple. Zey is not mafia and Tt and vivax are not in a million years mafia together. Basically shockeyy has to be mafia with either one of them.


Vivax wrote #731 about rayn:
Well no he isn't forced to vote Shockeyy. He could vote TT too, but decided not to for reasons I can only guess.


Okay, maybe he didn't see yet rayns reasoning. But

Vivax wrote #741:
By the way, let me rephrase what rayn is saying:

TT IS MAFIA BUT ONLY SHOCKEYY CAN BE MAFIA WITH HIM, SO LET'S VOTE SHOCKEYY.

Here he must have seen rayns post because he is rephrasing that again -- except he is just ignoring what rayn said.
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 09 2020 18:52 GMT
#809
ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don't bargain with terrorist (mafia in this case)

Except you was so sure that TT and rayn are scums so you must have thought that I'm town so why wasn't you willing to discuss with me?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 18:53 GMT
#810
I did yesterday, and yet you chose to defend Rayn.
Life?
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 09 2020 18:55 GMT
#811
Vivax wrote #732:
It's such a strange question. The only team that could be floating around your head is Shockeyy + Vivax if you think Shockeyy is mafia. Maybe Shockeyy + TickTock, in which case you should have no problem voting TickTock like now.

If somebody thinks Sho/Vivax and Sho/Tik are the only possible scumpartners then why that person would never vote anybody else than Sho at lylo? Vivax is just trying to give reasoning but it just doesn't make any sense.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
June 09 2020 18:55 GMT
#812
On June 10 2020 03:50 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2020 03:27 Vivax wrote:
Granted I think both Sho and zey are losing lynches and you aren't questioning why rayn is alive, but killing zey would give me some satisfaction.


Actually wait, so you think both your votes end the game, think I could be scum with rayn, but are just cool with letting things go the way the are right now?

Vivax if I am scum here, why in the hell aren't I just letting the game afk on Sho?


Well for one I would think it would look bad if I just piled on the top wagon after being afk for a long time without at least pretending to be questioning things.

And next I'm cool with letting things go either way because I have given up on winning the game yesterday.
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 09 2020 19:03 GMT
#813
Vivax wrote #744:
And do you know what pocketing means?
It means rayn lulled you in by playing like he's your bodyguard.

It's like you two play together at all times.

So it's either you + TT and rayn is not playing to win, or it's rayn + TT but you think of rayn as your tip town friend without reconsidering.


Vivax wrote #743:
But whatever, it appears we play 'friendship mafia'.


So instead of pointing where I got wrong (and I was willing to discuss and asking where my deduction went wrong if rayn is scum) he just accuse me not reconsidering rayn and just accusing about friendship mafia. If he is town and he think rayn is scum why doesn't he try to explain why my opinion about rayn is wrong, where my deduction is wrong. But nothing. It seems to me that there is anything wrong so he couldn't say anything and only thing he could was trying to appeal to emotions.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2020 19:04 GMT
#814
Zey reading into those posts, I'm not sure why that makes Sho scum. Like he seemed to be pretty locked into a world where Rayn/I are the scumteam and your points on rayn dont make a ton of sense to me.

It actually does seem more to me like you spent a lot of time defending rayn there, and that is the main thing I get from those posts.

What do you think about what I last noted about Vivax?
I can take that responsibility.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 19:07 GMT
#815
On June 10 2020 04:03 Zey wrote:
Show nested quote +
Vivax wrote #744:
And do you know what pocketing means?
It means rayn lulled you in by playing like he's your bodyguard.

It's like you two play together at all times.

So it's either you + TT and rayn is not playing to win, or it's rayn + TT but you think of rayn as your tip town friend without reconsidering.


Show nested quote +
Vivax wrote #743:
But whatever, it appears we play 'friendship mafia'.


So instead of pointing where I got wrong (and I was willing to discuss and asking where my deduction went wrong if rayn is scum) he just accuse me not reconsidering rayn and just accusing about friendship mafia. If he is town and he think rayn is scum why doesn't he try to explain why my opinion about rayn is wrong, where my deduction is wrong. But nothing. It seems to me that there is anything wrong so he couldn't say anything and only thing he could was trying to appeal to emotions.


We didn't want you to consider rayn, we wanted you to consider TicTock, but you were so focused that Vivax and I were mafia instead of even trying to look into Tictock that some how managed you defending Rayn from who knows where. You say I didn't talk to you but my post here says otherwise:

On June 09 2020 04:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Zey seriously? Have you even read any of Vivax vs Rayn posts? I don't care if you don't reconsider Rayn at this moment, PLEASE JUST LOOK AT TICTOCK. If you don't believe TicTock is scum, then read one of Jee's final posts and you'll see EXACTLY why she was night killed. It's right in front of you.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2020 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2020 03:44 jeekaka wrote:
rayn what do you think of Tictock?

Probably mafia tbh.


He thinks Tictock is mafia but votes for me?

EVERYONE that has died at night has literally looked at tictock as scum. Trfel turned out town who started to second guess tictock right before he was lynched by you.

Even if you don't think Rayn is mafia, is there a reason you don't think Tictock is mafia? Like being AFK practically all of D2 into D3 should be the biggest tell, yet you're here still defending them.

Rayn hasn't made any attempt to actually solve the game. He's literally just saying these people are mafia because "I said so" and you're following along.

I can't stay out of this because I obviously want town to win.

Life?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
June 09 2020 19:07 GMT
#816
On June 10 2020 04:03 Zey wrote:
Show nested quote +
Vivax wrote #744:
And do you know what pocketing means?
It means rayn lulled you in by playing like he's your bodyguard.

It's like you two play together at all times.

So it's either you + TT and rayn is not playing to win, or it's rayn + TT but you think of rayn as your tip town friend without reconsidering.


Show nested quote +
Vivax wrote #743:
But whatever, it appears we play 'friendship mafia'.


So instead of pointing where I got wrong (and I was willing to discuss and asking where my deduction went wrong if rayn is scum) he just accuse me not reconsidering rayn and just accusing about friendship mafia. If he is town and he think rayn is scum why doesn't he try to explain why my opinion about rayn is wrong, where my deduction is wrong. But nothing. It seems to me that there is anything wrong so he couldn't say anything and only thing he could was trying to appeal to emotions.


What I pointed out that made rayn at least sketchy you rebutted with 'twisting words'. Then you copied it for yourself.
Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 09 2020 19:13 GMT
#817
Sho wrote #751 trying to reason why you are scum:
EVERYONE that has died at night has literally looked at tictock as scum.

And here he is lying because jeekaka died at N2 and
jeekaka wrote #655:
I think TT:s progression has been quite towny and he's maybe still my closest townread

jeekaka wrote #667
But now settling to that Zey->Tictock world looks worse on him.

jeekaka wrote #668:
Because they are basically my strongest town candidates right now XD

So clearly jeekaka didn't think you are scum.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 09 2020 19:16 GMT
#818
Obviously I was wrong about Jee? I at least can change my position with incoming information, you on the other hand just ignore and deflect.
Life?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
June 09 2020 19:18 GMT
#819
I really don't know why TT is bothering. You could post a mafia role pm and zey would still vote for Shockeyy because both her and rayn think that Shockeyy is mafia because he's the only one who can be scum with TT.

Somehow they push the narrative that the game is TT + X and we always lynch X first.

And I'm saying this for the third or fourth time.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2020 19:25 GMT
#820
Humm the pages of arguments between Rayn/Vivax are kinda interesting, pg 31ish.

I mean it's a bit all over the place since there is clearly a fair bit of jumping to assumptions and misreading what the other has said. I just get the feeling that rayn is beating his head on a wall and Vivax is much more aloof.

Then given the last few posts from Vivax today, think he could very easily be mafia here. I dunno who he's be mafia with though, would have said Zey but he put his vote on Zey so quick with me today I don't think that possible. Oh and these arguments mean for sure Vivax/Rayn are not a team.

Does anyone have solid reasons to think rayn is mafia here? I mean I put him in my yolo team since he and Zey were first on the Shop wagon, but tbh the thing that makes me consider scum!rayn is the fear due to him still being alive.
I can take that responsibility.
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