[M][N]Oil Futures Mafia - Page 4

On May 01 2020 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Play the game please. You're gonna fight your lynch if you are town and you're gonna fight your lynch if you're mafia. Unless you want us to just kill you which we will do regardless of your affiliation if you act like this.

Why would you want to build a case on me if you have two bigger scumreads from which at least one has a really decent chance of being lynched?

On May 01 2020 02:07 Trfel wrote:
GlowingBear, my main question to you concerns your townread on Kurumi.

Yes, Kurumi's post was pretty and showed effort. But it was largely a summary of the thread, and only the parts on myself and raynpelikoneet showed any amount of thought whatsoever (not even going to discuss it, but you know my thoughts on that).

Why can't scum put in effort? Especially when it doesn't involve thinking or figuring out who is mafia?

On May 01 2020 02:07 Trfel wrote:
GlowingBear, my main question to you concerns your townread on Kurumi.

Yes, Kurumi's post was pretty and showed effort. But it was largely a summary of the thread, and only the parts on myself and raynpelikoneet showed any amount of thought whatsoever (not even going to discuss it, but you know my thoughts on that).

Why can't scum put in effort? Especially when it doesn't involve thinking or figuring out who is mafia?

On April 30 2020 23:57 GlowingBear wrote:


I started actually reading the thread and I was posting what it appeared to be more significative, Slam is a scum read because of his wishy washiness. He simply isn't making any hard stances and that's why I think he is probably mafia.
Jock's vote wasn't just super dumb, it simply doesn't make sense from a town perspective. And if it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, he is probably mafia.

I tried to play a bit more but I wasn't feeling well, I did my best to catch up with what is written.

I never called rayn town. I don't like how he is not taking hard stances, but I have a gut feeling he is probably town and I don't want to talk about it for reasons. I'd rather have him alive and think about him later.

I thought Trfel could be mafia if he was actually lazy. My intention with pointing that out was to generate discussion. I think he has being posted a fair amount of information and he is playing more like he is town. I'm not lynching Trfel here.

Kurumi posted the same thoughts I had on Trfel and he kept answering rayn in the same way I was thinking, meaning we are coming from the same perspective - hence, town. His wall of texts has he thought process completely displayed on thread, crystal clear. He's not to be discussed day1 after that. Same thing with Vivax. I had the impression on the beginning of the game that he was acting a bit fake, but he is actively contributing with the thread and clearly displaying his thought process.

I didn't read what Grackaroni posted.
Shockeyy had a bad opening on you, could be mafia, but I wouldn't lynch him today because he does look like mafia as town and he isn't been apologetic for not playing (which I believe is a scum meta for him)

Chez is BROWN <3

FF's post about re-reading the thread and flipping his opinion makes him town.

I don't know who I'm forgetting, let me see

On May 01 2020 03:44 Kurumi wrote:


I waited until my lynch was more or less assured, I asked for a replacement 11 and half hours ago because I couldn't muster any interest to play this game. So to make sure you don't make me suffer another fucking cycle I decided to come and say hi. You mad?

On April 30 2020 00:03 Kurumi wrote:
Slam, everyone, please don't spam post, it really doesn't help.

I decided to make a list for summary's sake and that we hopefully don't miss out something later.

No contribution so far:

Grackaroni (posted, but it is literally an introduction post and a youtube-link post)
Fecalfeast (admitted to not reading the thread)
Koshi (no posts at all)
Jockmcplop (no posts at all)
Chezinu (but talking Chezinu and contributing is a whole can of worms)


Low-effort/medium activity

Shockeyy (claims town and wanting to lead it, pings me through quoting Vivax, scumreads Alakaslam, notes that Trfel has played games back-to-back and understands their desire to be lazy)
Alakaslam (notes the cop-outs, pings me, claimed town, seemingly agrees with me, Vivax, torn about Trfel anyway)
GlowingBear (pings Vivax, then votes them without providing more reasoning, interacts with Trfel on basis of past games, although seemingly agrees with me, is interested in how Trfel is going to play)

Funnily enough, if someone were to put a gun to my head right now, I'd say all three are Town. That only means I at this moment lean Town more on them than Scum and it's flimsy enough to flip fast. If I were to pick the strongest town feel out of these three, it would be Slam because I liked him noticing the cop-outs and well, I like that he seems to agree with me

Active

Vivax (pinged me, wanted to interact with people and did, pressured Fecalfeast through a vote on good reasoning after I asked for who I should be looking into, most importantly, came to the exact same conclusions I have right now.)
Kurumi

Trfel
raynpelikoneet

I have no idea with which one of these two I should start. There's an obvious triangle between them and me - with them defending each-other and pushing me, but pushing me so lightly that they don't even commit to a vote. And they do all this for me JUST pinging Trfel. Never called Trfel scum. Never voted Trfel. That's a misrepresentation. But the moment I mention Trfel to rayn, he believes that Trfel has shown "effort" (they did not, as I outlined in a post of mine). After this, rayn declares I should be suspicious of him because of his defense of Trfel - to which I have replied already as well. I was. I know that rayn tunnel-visions a lot, but the play he's shown this game is outright bogus to me. Trfel says one thing and then does the opposite. Which is, by definition, lying. You might have a good guess how I feel about liars. Rayn goes on saying that I'm illogically pushing Trfel for this, as if nothing Trfel would've done would change my attitude towards them. So here's what I can give on this front: if Trfel were truthful to their game-opening declaration, they'd be suspicious to me. BUT they would not be read as scum to me simply because of lack of information. Given how all this turned out, I believe Trfel to be scum. They go as far as literally reiterating rayn's previous point he made to me about how I should be suspicious of rayn and me not being suspicious of rayn is scummy. They also misrepresent me as saying "I'm gonna meta read everyone like crazy" which is wildly untrue. I expressed DOUBTS whether I can do that. Not that I can and will.

And you know what's the best thing ever in Trfel's posting?



Amazing backpedal. So your plan from the start of the game was claim to be lazy and then call the first person to call you out scum? Because "mostly joking"? So not only you've lied about "being lazy" this game through your gameplay after I put some heat on you, you also admit it outright? Cool.

So, the only reason I'm voting Trfel over raynpelikoneet really is that I think Trfel has a role. I'd rather have a scum-with-role dead than a vanilla scum dead. Easy? Easy.

##vote Trfel

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