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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 23 2020 02:20 GMT
#9
On April 23 2020 04:47 Chezinu wrote:
/in

Although it's not about Gallo Olive Oil.


Soon, Chez

Soon
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 25 2020 17:57 GMT
#24
On April 26 2020 00:20 Koshi wrote:
/in


/in
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 25 2020 17:57 GMT
#25
It's been a long while since I saw Koshi and Rayn in the same game.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 25 2020 23:42 GMT
#29
On April 26 2020 05:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
For the deadline I want to do 19:00 GMT (+00:00) since I won't be any meetings and everyone currently in the game will probably be awake at that hour. Anyone unable to make that time and want me to move it?


Deadline is fine for me
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 28 2020 20:16 GMT
#64
OHAI!

I'm town
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 28 2020 20:26 GMT
#70
On April 29 2020 04:37 Trfel wrote:
Hi all

In-game excuse, I'm going to be a bit lazy this game. Also more likely to be active late evening (PDT).


No Trfel, you're either effortful or mafia.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 28 2020 20:31 GMT
#73
On April 29 2020 05:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:16 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI!

I'm town


Seems legit.


It is. You doubt it?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 28 2020 20:41 GMT
#78
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


This post is bad and you should feel bad for it.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 01:17 GMT
#104
On April 29 2020 06:59 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here.

On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.
I know he's played a bunch before, I've seen him around a bit before (forget where).

The reason I ask is that he said he will be trying to make some meta reads, I'm curious if that's going to be based on previous game experience or if he intends on filter diving past games of unfamiliar players or what.


I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long.


I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now.
Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining!
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On April 29 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:37 Trfel wrote:
Hi all

In-game excuse, I'm going to be a bit lazy this game. Also more likely to be active late evening (PDT).


No Trfel, you're either effortful or mafia.
You hosted last game, where I was lazy and town?

Come to think of it, GlowingBear, what do you think about Vivax's alignment?


I don't think you were lazy at all. You started being lazy towards the end game, and that's when people started believing you're mafia. But you had an outstanding day1.

Vivax is MAFIA and I'm voting him
##Vote: Vivax
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 01:17 GMT
#105
Wait, where's the vote thread?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 01:18 GMT
#106
On April 29 2020 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think he has quite a legitimate thought process and probably town based on it.


?

Can you expand on this? I don't get what you mean.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 01:20 GMT
#107
On April 29 2020 06:39 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?

so why did you ask me about this?


Sorry I'm responding this late, got a call from a friend.

Well, I got all bad vibes from this and wanted another pair of eyes on this. Someone declaring at the start of the game that they're going to be lazy feels like a setup for a future cop-out for why they're not putting the effort in.


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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 01:32 GMT
#109
On April 29 2020 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?


Fishing for how I'm committed to the game is not something I'm going to write up as "Town" in my book. Especially when someone declares that they're going to be less than committed. And as I've stated already in agreement to Vivax, me going for meta reads might not be the best course of action.

I am talking to you "like there is nothing wrong in your behaviour" because it is still early in the game and you might be going off one thing, like you've admitted. I also read your first post after "hi" as combative and wanted to know whether it is light-hearted or not, but you didn't acknowledge me asking about it. Besides, bringing more information into the thread is never wrong, especially when we establish connections people have to each other based on their reactions and interactions.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.



Oh come on Ray, what kind of reasoning is this? If anything, we should be concerned that someone that has shown less interest in the game changes their behaviour so fast. If that's the whole picture, that is.


Although I agree with you about Trfel's opening, it will only be proven if he in fact acts lazy and uses his opening as a cop-out. If he is mafia, he could be using that excuse right out of the bat and simply not play. Trfel usually asks lots of questions as town, forcing people to contribute to the thread. That's townie from him. But I'll let him explain himself.

Actually, @Trfel, one question: why do you believe you'll be lazy in this game? Are you uninterested?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 01:32 GMT
#110
On April 29 2020 10:29 Chezinu wrote:
One thing I don’t worry about is inflation right now.


LUCCA GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLO RICCI!
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 01:44 GMT
#113
On April 29 2020 10:40 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi Trfel can we be friends this game?
Hopefully, that's kinda on you though

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 07:26 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 06:59 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here.

On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.
I know he's played a bunch before, I've seen him around a bit before (forget where).

The reason I ask is that he said he will be trying to make some meta reads, I'm curious if that's going to be based on previous game experience or if he intends on filter diving past games of unfamiliar players or what.


I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long.


I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now.
Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining!


So why were you asking me about how I'm going to play this game, exactly?
Because your post didn't make sense to me.

Claiming you planned on doing a lot of meta reads doesn't make sense if you're unfamiliar with many/most of the players in the game, which I thought you were. Therefore, I was asking to try and learn more about what you meant by that. It makes more sense now that you said you were just faking confidence.

It just feels a bit weird for me for town to come into the thread right at the start of day 1 and say "I'm gonna meta read everyone like crazy," especially if they don't know everyone. But it makes more sense now that you've clarified it.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.
Alakaslam, do you really care what people think of you when you're mafia?

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 10:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 29 2020 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?


Fishing for how I'm committed to the game is not something I'm going to write up as "Town" in my book. Especially when someone declares that they're going to be less than committed. And as I've stated already in agreement to Vivax, me going for meta reads might not be the best course of action.

I am talking to you "like there is nothing wrong in your behaviour" because it is still early in the game and you might be going off one thing, like you've admitted. I also read your first post after "hi" as combative and wanted to know whether it is light-hearted or not, but you didn't acknowledge me asking about it. Besides, bringing more information into the thread is never wrong, especially when we establish connections people have to each other based on their reactions and interactions.

On April 29 2020 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.



Oh come on Ray, what kind of reasoning is this? If anything, we should be concerned that someone that has shown less interest in the game changes their behaviour so fast. If that's the whole picture, that is.


Although I agree with you about Trfel's opening, it will only be proven if he in fact acts lazy and uses his opening as a cop-out. If he is mafia, he could be using that excuse right out of the bat and simply not play. Trfel usually asks lots of questions as town, forcing people to contribute to the thread. That's townie from him. But I'll let him explain himself.

Actually, @Trfel, one question: why do you believe you'll be lazy in this game? Are you uninterested?
I'm slightly demotivated/a little tired of mafia, yes. I wouldn't have played if there was another person who signed up for the 12th slot. I was serious about being just as happy to not play as to play.

However, I was mostly joking, to see people's reactions. It clearly wouldn't make much sense for me to try and give an excuse at the start of the game when I easily could have done so a few hours before. With the one caveat being that I tend to be a lower page-count player these past few games/years, I try to be more efficient with my posts, and I think it's been working fairly well. I just know some people tend to view that as suspicious.


So you plan to not be lazy?
Also, what do you think of the reactions so far?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 16:42 GMT
#189
On April 30 2020 01:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 01:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wait jock says his vote on koshi was jokes?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Nah I genuinely thought he was mafia after his one post and shockeyy saying that post made him mafia. I was convinced. but alas! Now I have seen the light.

##unvote: koshi


No way.

##Unvote
##Vote: Jockmcplop


You're mafia.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 29 2020 16:42 GMT
#190
Btw I'm working and currently not feeling well (since tomorrow), I've just skimmed the thread a bit.

I'll re-read the thread later.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 30 2020 01:10 GMT
#298
ALRIGHT I'm here. I'll make a catchup post.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 30 2020 01:34 GMT
#301
On April 29 2020 06:39 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?

so why did you ask me about this?


Sorry I'm responding this late, got a call from a friend.

Well, I got all bad vibes from this and wanted another pair of eyes on this. Someone declaring at the start of the game that they're going to be lazy feels like a setup for a future cop-out for why they're not putting the effort in.


This is exactly what I thought. This post makes me think Kurumi is town.

On April 29 2020 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.


I don't like this post from Slam, this "I'm town and therefore dont give a shit what people think" seems forced.

On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment.
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.
Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then


You want to butt heads, eh? What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?
Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about.

And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?


I disagree, Kurumi has committed to the "bad vibes" he had from you, and his thought process is well displayed on the thread. The only part I agree with is that Kurumi didn't question rayn's alignment, but I don't see it as alignment indicative in the early game.


On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


Another post from Slam that isn't contributive at all. Just a "could be or couldn't be".

Okay, I'm on page 8, I'll post this and continue
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 30 2020 01:35 GMT
#302
On April 29 2020 15:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But they are not. I also think FF and Slam are town but i am not that sure about it.


You're probably town for this.
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