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On May 01 2020 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2020 02:03 GlowingBear wrote:On May 01 2020 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 01 2020 01:45 GlowingBear wrote:
I was starting a case on rayn but caught up with work.
I can't keep fighting my lynch, you do what you want. You already know who I think is mafia.
Koshi/Jock/ and one between rayn and slam
Shockeyy could be mafia if he is too apologetic.
GG
Play the game please. You're gonna fight your lynch if you are town and you're gonna fight your lynch if you're mafia. Unless you want us to just kill you which we will do regardless of your affiliation if you act like this. Why would you want to build a case on me if you have two bigger scumreads from which at least one has a really decent chance of being lynched? It's not that I don't want to play, it's that I can't actually keep reading the game right now because I'm caught up with work. I've already said what I think. And you realized I thought you were blue or mafia. You don't take hard stances, your vote on Jock was because "he can look town while been mafia", you have a scum read on grack and you decided to sheep koshi because "he is certainly town" for bad meta. Your under the radar play here would only make sense here if you have a power role as town. well okay, everything here is pretty much not right. I am not blue fingers crossed now you can actually call me mafia. Do your best if that's what you want to do.
I don't really care now what you are, I think Jock is more likely to be mafia and I'll vote him for all the reasons I've already said. You either agree with me and vote him or you don't and vote me.
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On May 01 2020 02:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 23:57 GlowingBear wrote:On April 30 2020 23:45 Koshi wrote:
You dont have Slam as a scumread. Merely mentioned him being wishy washy. That is just an observation. Nothing more at all.
Your jock scumread was teiggered by jock doing something super dumb which looked mafia. So you went for the safe jump on jock without thinking twice.
You are not trying to solve this game enough to call you town or to leave you alive.
You make no waves at all. You voted Vivax and it had 0.0000% impact. No explanation no nothing.
You call rayn town and it had 0.000% impact on the game. No explanation no nothing.
Early game you claim to have the same suspicion of tfrel as kurumi, hence the townread, yet when you talk to Tfrel there is absolutely nothing there to support that claim. You backed off from the conversation I started actually reading the thread and I was posting what it appeared to be more significative, Slam is a scum read because of his wishy washiness. He simply isn't making any hard stances and that's why I think he is probably mafia. Jock's vote wasn't just super dumb, it simply doesn't make sense from a town perspective. And if it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, he is probably mafia. I tried to play a bit more but I wasn't feeling well, I did my best to catch up with what is written. I never called rayn town. I don't like how he is not taking hard stances, but I have a gut feeling he is probably town and I don't want to talk about it for reasons. I'd rather have him alive and think about him later. I thought Trfel could be mafia if he was actually lazy. My intention with pointing that out was to generate discussion. I think he has being posted a fair amount of information and he is playing more like he is town. I'm not lynching Trfel here. Kurumi posted the same thoughts I had on Trfel and he kept answering rayn in the same way I was thinking, meaning we are coming from the same perspective - hence, town. His wall of texts has he thought process completely displayed on thread, crystal clear. He's not to be discussed day1 after that. Same thing with Vivax. I had the impression on the beginning of the game that he was acting a bit fake, but he is actively contributing with the thread and clearly displaying his thought process. I didn't read what Grackaroni posted. Shockeyy had a bad opening on you, could be mafia, but I wouldn't lynch him today because he does look like mafia as town and he isn't been apologetic for not playing (which I believe is a scum meta for him) Chez is BROWN <3 FF's post about re-reading the thread and flipping his opinion makes him town. I don't know who I'm forgetting, let me see @Vivax and the rest, what makes this post so bad? I get that this wasn't really pertinent to the discussion, but I don't think that makes GlowingBear mafia. The main issue I see with it is that there are a lot of townreads and very few scumreads (really only on Alakaslam), but given that there's only 25 pages in the thread I don't find it completely unreasonable. My gut says GlowingBear isn't mafia, my head doesn't have great reasons to call him mafia, unless something changes I don't really want to lynch him today.
he says:
jock is mafia
slam is mafia
rayn can be town or mafia
trfel could be town or mafia
well whatever, everything else is someone can be town or mafia aside from Kurumi.
into later "jock and KOSHI are mafia but i am gonna make a case on rayn".
what's GOOD in that?
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On May 01 2020 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2020 02:07 Trfel wrote:On May 01 2020 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll be here discussing but don't expect much because I'm working GlowingBear, my main question to you concerns your townread on Kurumi. Yes, Kurumi's post was pretty and showed effort. But it was largely a summary of the thread, and only the parts on myself and raynpelikoneet showed any amount of thought whatsoever (not even going to discuss it, but you know my thoughts on that). Why can't scum put in effort? Especially when it doesn't involve thinking or figuring out who is mafia? Scum CAN put effort, but they are most likely not. It's not solely effort that I am townreading Kurumi. He also had the same perspective as me in the beginning of the game, which points out to him being the same alignment as me, and his thoughts are always crystal clear, original, and kept discussion going. That's why he is town. I'd ask you to reread the post/Kurumi's filter except you said you're at work and can't, I'll try to respect that.
I guess I can agree that his thoughts are clear, and original, and kept discussion going. I would also say they have logical flaws and don't make sense though.
What exactly did you and him "mindmeld" about? Just my opening? Because I'd consider agreeing about that fairly insignificant.
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On May 01 2020 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2020 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:On May 01 2020 02:07 Trfel wrote:On May 01 2020 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll be here discussing but don't expect much because I'm working GlowingBear, my main question to you concerns your townread on Kurumi. Yes, Kurumi's post was pretty and showed effort. But it was largely a summary of the thread, and only the parts on myself and raynpelikoneet showed any amount of thought whatsoever (not even going to discuss it, but you know my thoughts on that). Why can't scum put in effort? Especially when it doesn't involve thinking or figuring out who is mafia? Scum CAN put effort, but they are most likely not. It's not solely effort that I am townreading Kurumi. He also had the same perspective as me in the beginning of the game, which points out to him being the same alignment as me, and his thoughts are always crystal clear, original, and kept discussion going. That's why he is town. I will let you do your thing after this one, but i have to do this: Why does that make Kurumi town (aside from him "mindmelding with you" which is really stupid tbh), and why doesn't that make let's say me and Trfel town? Because i can easily apply your narrative to Trfel (and myself but if you want to see myself biased towards me then let's only talk about Trfel).
I've already said Trfel is probably town because of these very reasons. I can't say the same about you. I couldn't say what your reads were at least until mid day1, then you voted jock without actually providing reasons, all the information I have about it is that "he could certainly look town as mafia). Then you felt Grack was mafia but ignored this read to sheep koshi into me. Sounds like mafia to me, you're not taking hard stances. But I could be OMGUSing and I thought about the possibility of you being blue. That's the only reason I don't call you certainly mafia.
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On May 01 2020 02:18 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2020 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:On May 01 2020 02:07 Trfel wrote:On May 01 2020 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll be here discussing but don't expect much because I'm working GlowingBear, my main question to you concerns your townread on Kurumi. Yes, Kurumi's post was pretty and showed effort. But it was largely a summary of the thread, and only the parts on myself and raynpelikoneet showed any amount of thought whatsoever (not even going to discuss it, but you know my thoughts on that). Why can't scum put in effort? Especially when it doesn't involve thinking or figuring out who is mafia? Scum CAN put effort, but they are most likely not. It's not solely effort that I am townreading Kurumi. He also had the same perspective as me in the beginning of the game, which points out to him being the same alignment as me, and his thoughts are always crystal clear, original, and kept discussion going. That's why he is town. I'd ask you to reread the post/Kurumi's filter except you said you're at work and can't, I'll try to respect that. I guess I can agree that his thoughts are clear, and original, and kept discussion going. I would also say they have logical flaws and don't make sense though. What exactly did you and him "mindmeld" about? Just my opening? Because I'd consider agreeing about that fairly insignificant.
His reaction to your opening and his responses to rayn were solid and it felt original, and I had the same thought process. In other words, if someone is having the same perspective as I, he is probably town. This is weak but this is only one of the reasons why I consider him town.
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On May 01 2020 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2020 02:13 Trfel wrote:On April 30 2020 23:57 GlowingBear wrote:On April 30 2020 23:45 Koshi wrote:
You dont have Slam as a scumread. Merely mentioned him being wishy washy. That is just an observation. Nothing more at all.
Your jock scumread was teiggered by jock doing something super dumb which looked mafia. So you went for the safe jump on jock without thinking twice.
You are not trying to solve this game enough to call you town or to leave you alive.
You make no waves at all. You voted Vivax and it had 0.0000% impact. No explanation no nothing.
You call rayn town and it had 0.000% impact on the game. No explanation no nothing.
Early game you claim to have the same suspicion of tfrel as kurumi, hence the townread, yet when you talk to Tfrel there is absolutely nothing there to support that claim. You backed off from the conversation I started actually reading the thread and I was posting what it appeared to be more significative, Slam is a scum read because of his wishy washiness. He simply isn't making any hard stances and that's why I think he is probably mafia. Jock's vote wasn't just super dumb, it simply doesn't make sense from a town perspective. And if it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, he is probably mafia. I tried to play a bit more but I wasn't feeling well, I did my best to catch up with what is written. I never called rayn town. I don't like how he is not taking hard stances, but I have a gut feeling he is probably town and I don't want to talk about it for reasons. I'd rather have him alive and think about him later. I thought Trfel could be mafia if he was actually lazy. My intention with pointing that out was to generate discussion. I think he has being posted a fair amount of information and he is playing more like he is town. I'm not lynching Trfel here. Kurumi posted the same thoughts I had on Trfel and he kept answering rayn in the same way I was thinking, meaning we are coming from the same perspective - hence, town. His wall of texts has he thought process completely displayed on thread, crystal clear. He's not to be discussed day1 after that. Same thing with Vivax. I had the impression on the beginning of the game that he was acting a bit fake, but he is actively contributing with the thread and clearly displaying his thought process. I didn't read what Grackaroni posted. Shockeyy had a bad opening on you, could be mafia, but I wouldn't lynch him today because he does look like mafia as town and he isn't been apologetic for not playing (which I believe is a scum meta for him) Chez is BROWN <3 FF's post about re-reading the thread and flipping his opinion makes him town. I don't know who I'm forgetting, let me see @Vivax and the rest, what makes this post so bad? I get that this wasn't really pertinent to the discussion, but I don't think that makes GlowingBear mafia. The main issue I see with it is that there are a lot of townreads and very few scumreads (really only on Alakaslam), but given that there's only 25 pages in the thread I don't find it completely unreasonable. My gut says GlowingBear isn't mafia, my head doesn't have great reasons to call him mafia, unless something changes I don't really want to lynch him today. he says: jock is mafia slam is mafia rayn can be town or mafia trfel could be town or mafia well whatever, everything else is someone can be town or mafia aside from Kurumi. into later "jock and KOSHI are mafia but i am gonna make a case on rayn". what's GOOD in that? I guess that's not how I read it. I read it as:
Jockmcplop is mafia
Alakaslam is mafia
Raynpelikoneet is town (yes, I realize he directly said he never called you town, maybe this is a misinterpretation on my part)
Trfel is town
Fecalfeast is town
I guess to me, the interesting part was how he gave so many townreads. As mafia, I would expect GlowingBear to be willing to go with any counterwagon that could gain traction, no? It feels like he is boxing himself in a bit here, which makes me slightly inclined to think he's town.
Honestly there isn't much good about the post, and I don't have solid reasons to townread GlowingBear by any stretch, it's just a gut read. I am just trying to understand why everyone else is so much more certain he is mafia. I can't defend GlowingBear, I'd just rather lynch someone else if that makes sense.
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On May 01 2020 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2020 02:13 Trfel wrote:On April 30 2020 23:57 GlowingBear wrote:On April 30 2020 23:45 Koshi wrote:
You dont have Slam as a scumread. Merely mentioned him being wishy washy. That is just an observation. Nothing more at all.
Your jock scumread was teiggered by jock doing something super dumb which looked mafia. So you went for the safe jump on jock without thinking twice.
You are not trying to solve this game enough to call you town or to leave you alive.
You make no waves at all. You voted Vivax and it had 0.0000% impact. No explanation no nothing.
You call rayn town and it had 0.000% impact on the game. No explanation no nothing.
Early game you claim to have the same suspicion of tfrel as kurumi, hence the townread, yet when you talk to Tfrel there is absolutely nothing there to support that claim. You backed off from the conversation I started actually reading the thread and I was posting what it appeared to be more significative, Slam is a scum read because of his wishy washiness. He simply isn't making any hard stances and that's why I think he is probably mafia. Jock's vote wasn't just super dumb, it simply doesn't make sense from a town perspective. And if it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, he is probably mafia. I tried to play a bit more but I wasn't feeling well, I did my best to catch up with what is written. I never called rayn town. I don't like how he is not taking hard stances, but I have a gut feeling he is probably town and I don't want to talk about it for reasons. I'd rather have him alive and think about him later. I thought Trfel could be mafia if he was actually lazy. My intention with pointing that out was to generate discussion. I think he has being posted a fair amount of information and he is playing more like he is town. I'm not lynching Trfel here. Kurumi posted the same thoughts I had on Trfel and he kept answering rayn in the same way I was thinking, meaning we are coming from the same perspective - hence, town. His wall of texts has he thought process completely displayed on thread, crystal clear. He's not to be discussed day1 after that. Same thing with Vivax. I had the impression on the beginning of the game that he was acting a bit fake, but he is actively contributing with the thread and clearly displaying his thought process. I didn't read what Grackaroni posted. Shockeyy had a bad opening on you, could be mafia, but I wouldn't lynch him today because he does look like mafia as town and he isn't been apologetic for not playing (which I believe is a scum meta for him) Chez is BROWN <3 FF's post about re-reading the thread and flipping his opinion makes him town. I don't know who I'm forgetting, let me see @Vivax and the rest, what makes this post so bad? I get that this wasn't really pertinent to the discussion, but I don't think that makes GlowingBear mafia. The main issue I see with it is that there are a lot of townreads and very few scumreads (really only on Alakaslam), but given that there's only 25 pages in the thread I don't find it completely unreasonable. My gut says GlowingBear isn't mafia, my head doesn't have great reasons to call him mafia, unless something changes I don't really want to lynch him today. he says: jock is mafia slam is mafia rayn can be town or mafia trfel could be town or mafia well whatever, everything else is someone can be town or mafia aside from Kurumi. into later "jock and KOSHI are mafia but i am gonna make a case on rayn". what's GOOD in that?
This is not true, I also said I believe Vivax is town for the same reasons why Kurumi is and I also said I believe Trfel is probably town.
I can't have better reads from the others because they are basically question marks. How do you read Chez? FF is town just because of that innocent post alone, because, otherwise, he would be a question mark too.
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Now I really need to work, I'll get back soon
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On May 01 2020 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grack? I guessssssssssssssssssssss but I'd prefer Chezinu or Fecalfeast?
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I am not gonna vote for FF.
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I am tempted to vote for Kurumi lol 
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I waited too long to start reading and I don't have time to finish through.
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Grackaroni recently backed off of his main post. His only current reads are three townreads, mostly due to effort. I don't really know what he thinks. He's around, which is a plus.
+ Show Spoiler +Okay, poor secrecy, but anyway, I could see myself lynching Grackaroni closer to the deadline if he continues to fail to contribute anything. I don't really want to vote him now to put that pressure on him if he's mafia, I'd rather see what he does undisturbed.
Chezinu because he's been so distant from the thread. He feels really disinterested and not present at all. I guess I don't really know if that makes him mafia but it certainly doesn't make him town. And it's a noticeable departure from his normal play.
Fecalfeast because he's thrown around so many suspicions, it just feels like he's throwing scumreads at everything and seeing what sticks. This is probably my #2 lynch (after Kurumi).
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I'm not doing anything else. I have to work soon.
I have 5 minutes I will vote to consolidate somewhere or I'll vote Koshi.
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I dunno, you probably shouldn't base your reads on mine, I'm typically abysmal Day 1, I start to do better Night 1 and after  It's really hard for me to get any kind of accuracy in my reads without seeing how people act around a deadline, when there's something at stake.
But that won't stop me from trying.
I'll reread Kurumi.
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On May 01 2020 02:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm not doing anything else. I have to work soon.
I have 5 minutes I will vote to consolidate somewhere or I'll vote Koshi. You know, I actually don't mind Grackaroni's reason to suspect Koshi.
GlowingBear didn't have an impact with his scumreads, he didn't "make waves." But he did jump on poor Jockmcplop way too aggressively, and that's suspicious. Doesn't match.
I don't think that alone makes me want to vote for Koshi, but I'll keep it in min.
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