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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 07:52 GMT
#147
On April 29 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Hey guys, meta reads here. I will lead town to victory.

Hey Shockeyy can you open up this post for a bit more?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 16:20 GMT
#174
On April 30 2020 00:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far

Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote

What do you dislike about my post?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 16:24 GMT
#176
On April 30 2020 01:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far

Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote

What do you dislike about my post?

Real quick it seems based on your idea of what kurumi was thinking rather than what was said let me do a real post later

Did you miss the part where Kurumi basically said that what i wrote is accurate? sure its ip to debate if it makes him mafia or not but... lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 16:27 GMT
#181
: if Trfel were truthful to their game-opening declaration, they'd be suspicious to me.

He was not, and lookiddy-look.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 16:43 GMT
#191
On April 30 2020 01:31 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
: if Trfel were truthful to their game-opening declaration, they'd be suspicious to me.

He was not, and lookiddy-look.


Then he lied in their first post and kept going with it to then defend themselves with "I was mostly joking". Even more of a reason to get rid of them.

Yes he did lie in his first post if you want to put it that way. That was not my argument. My argument was something else and completely valid.

If you want to call me mafia at least try to find something from me rhat dowsnt make sense because you LITERALLY proved my concern was CORRECT at least content-wise.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 16:50 GMT
#197
Sentinel said this is the voting thread aka there is none.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 16:56 GMT
#199
I sm going to have to read what jock has posted when i grt home. I am just loosely following the thread at work.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 18:51 GMT
#209
Hey Koshi are you around in an hour or so?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:09 GMT
#235
i am here now gimme a sec
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:12 GMT
#236
On April 30 2020 04:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 00:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 13:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don’t like a couple of slam posts so far. He’s on my scummy list.
Care to explain which ones?


On April 29 2020 04:36 Alakaslam wrote:
But well what of it, dead game is dead game will come back when she wakes up


His post here about dead game being a dead game, then his follow up post here to you Trfel.

On April 29 2020 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.


Typically as town I act like I don't care, but I do care. As a mafia member, I actually wouldn't care about what town thinks since the end game is winning and killing town.

@rayn

Do you understand why Shockey thinks slam is mafia? If you do, do you believe that Shockey should think slam is mafia?

I don't to be honest.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:19 GMT
#238
On April 30 2020 04:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 01:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:30 Kurumi wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far

Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote

What do you dislike about my post?

Real quick it seems based on your idea of what kurumi was thinking rather than what was said let me do a real post later

Did you miss the part where Kurumi basically said that what i wrote is accurate? sure its ip to debate if it makes him mafia or not but... lol

Obviously i did miss that


Because it never happened. Or, at least until rayn shows where this has happened.

Can we resolve this

Rayn can you address this?

Where did kurumi say your narrative was correct?

FF i originally posted this (the "conclusion is here, read my post #144 if you dont understand):
On April 29 2020 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[.......]
Basically throughout the game so far Kurumi has been saying:
- Trfel is mafia because he is lazy and making excuses for not posting
- If that's not true after all he is still mafia because he is actually posting

aka, Trfel is mafia if he is not posting or if he is posting. What gives?

What i quoted from Kurumi ("i would be suspicious of Trfel if he kept up with not posting and being lazy as he said in his first post") and where his vote is (he is voting for Trfel), he is basically saying what i wrote here is true, right? Because it is lol... As i said it's debatable if it makes him mafia or not, but i think it's at best very unfair of him to call me mafia for questioning him for something he should know is factually correct.

Another thing is that if this was his actual thought process at the start of the game, like however Trfel follows up his "terrible opening post" Kurumi will still think Trfel is mafia, why did it take like a day for him to actually vote for Trfel?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:21 GMT
#240
On April 30 2020 05:18 Koshi wrote:
Sup rayn? Saunas still your thing?

of course.

Here's the thing Koshi, last two games i have completely fucked up because the most obvious people (who did terrible shit) were mafia. I am very very tempted to vote for Jock here because he did something absolutely terrible. Why do you think the whole scheme with his voting and unvoting on you doesn't make him mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:22 GMT
#241
Vivax, are you still in Slam is town train?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:35 GMT
#247
On April 30 2020 05:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 05:18 Koshi wrote:
Sup rayn? Saunas still your thing?

of course.

Here's the thing Koshi, last two games i have completely fucked up because the most obvious people (who did terrible shit) were mafia. I am very very tempted to vote for Jock here because he did something absolutely terrible. Why do you think the whole scheme with his voting and unvoting on you doesn't make him mafia?

The posts he quoted about slam are legit. Read what I say about them. It is good jock pointed that out.

I am trying to find it but i can't.

I also believe jock is showing effort to look into the mindset of players on a level a scum would not be botjered to do unless they are very skilled as mafia.


Jock his vote and unvote on me is potentially a townie being too careless and doing something un his eyes fun that is perceived as super duper mafia by the thread.

Too mafia to be mafia? Maybe. I shall not judge jock for that 1 thing.

Jock is very good at playing this game as mafia until he does something really stupid. Which i think he did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:38 GMT
#251
On April 30 2020 04:02 Koshi wrote:
My thoughts are that Kurumi showed interest in rayns alignment by asking him question which rayn could or could not correctly answer from Kurumi's POV.

I think Kurumi scumreading rayn after the exchange shows that Kurumi was not impressed by rayn his answers and therefore scumreads him.

Which is a very townie thought and handling process.

I honestly don't agree with this at all, being on the "receiving end" here. I mean that's not how i feel like it went at all. But i am not really interested in Kurumi right now, probably not a D1 lynch anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:40 GMT
#253
Jock is very very capable of making very townie looking posts as mafia but at points his conclusions don't match his posts. That's pretty much Jock.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:40 GMT
#255
On April 30 2020 05:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:
GB:
Silly questions
No waves
Bit unfunny oncomfortable gif
Comes out of lurk to devour poor green jock
Excuses to continue lurk


i lol'd

Rayn what's the really dumb thing Jock did?

The whole voting Koshi then unvoting and every piece of it for shit reasons.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:42 GMT
#256
On April 30 2020 05:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:
On April 30 2020 03:36 Koshi wrote:
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.


This post shows jock is thinking about the game and the thought process of others.

Is townie.

Here

Read it multiple times and try to understand jock.

It is an attack on slam with indepth analysis on kurumi. That proofs he is thinking about the game on a decent level.

Okay, and then he does what? Vote for you because Shockeyy said some random shit?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:47 GMT
#259
GB is sick. I am playing a diplomacy game with him atm, he is legit sick. That doesn't make him town or mafia with what he has posted but yeah..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:49 GMT
#261
Well he doesn't.
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