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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 19:24 GMT
#369
Hap is definitely mafia, didn't even make time to make his own video; had to plagiarize from the lonely island!
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 19:38 GMT
#372
On April 07 2020 02:08 Vivax wrote:
This summarizes the lynch.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I seriously can't stop laughing at this picture lmao. It literally summarizes the end of day posts so well.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 19:50 GMT
#375
On April 07 2020 04:39 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 04:11 Hapahauli wrote:


He has eyes that sees. He has augmented reality too!

Wow that was uploaded a few months before Chez had a matrix experience...



Chez never even saw the video before.


I literally spent my whole day Friday watching you then!
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 21:29 GMT
#379
On April 05 2020 11:30 Chezinu wrote:
Mom!!

Dad said that we wants to murder me!


Who's we?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 21:38 GMT
#382
On April 05 2020 14:40 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 13:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 05 2020 10:25 Trfel wrote:
On April 05 2020 10:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 05 2020 09:31 Trfel wrote:
On April 05 2020 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 05 2020 08:35 Trfel wrote:
On April 05 2020 05:35 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shockeyy feels weird.


I always feel weird to everyone with my openers and turn out to be a town or a blue...

On April 05 2020 04:00 Vivax wrote:
On April 05 2020 03:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I’m finishing up some chores then I’ll have some free time to post. My first question to all of you is, how are you all managing during this global pandemic? Everyone has the supplies needed? I may have to leave my incubator later for some “fresh” air, food, and cannabis.


I'm trying to raise awareness for the bullshittery being pushed on the back of this super hyped pandemic. Sometimes I go out, grab used towels from trash cans, grind them finely and snort them to make a point.

Anything game related?


I mean it's the beginning of the game, I think everything is currently related.

On April 05 2020 04:13 Trfel wrote:
On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shockeyy feels weird.
Agreed, it feels a bit strange to have time to make a post but not have time to interact. And with a bit of an excuse.

That said... I've been doing okay with the whole coronavirus thing. We have the necessary supplies here, the main worry is for the health of those who are sick. And for myself personally, the loneliness and depression caused by staying inside so much is a bit of a pain to deal with but it's much worse for others so that's not so bad.


I couldn't interact since I had pre determined chores, however, I wanted to let the thread know that I'm aware the game started. I don't think it's a weird opening, I'm just being truthful. I would think that's a high regarded value of a townie.
Have you finished your chores yet?

And out of curiosity, did you confirm?


I finished quite a good amount of them. I just have to vacuum. Are you asking me if I confirmed my role in the game?
Yeah, when GlowingBear sent out confirmation PMs, did you respond?


Not when he originally sent it, I responded after the game started, then posted in the thread. I had just woken up maybe 30 mins prior?
Fair enough. The reason I asked was because if you confirmed before, it would show that you were present, so there would have been less need to post in the thread showing that.

That said, I guess I was kinda under the impression that you just played how you want and didn't really care too much what other people thought of you. Is that an incorrect assessment?


It's not, but I also don't want mafia to win, so I try at least.
I appreciate you answering, thank you.

Do you have any players you are suspicious of at this point? And if not, what do you think of my "case" on raynpelikoneet?


Time to answer, just think of the opposite players here:

On April 07 2020 01:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 01:18 Vivax wrote:
On April 07 2020 01:17 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 07 2020 01:07 Vivax wrote:
On April 07 2020 01:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I haven't caught up with the thread yet, but as I'm reading it, is there a few reasons why we're voting Jock over Hapa?

To me it seems that Hapa is really skirting by while Jock has been playing the game and responding, to me that seems like town more than anything.

Anyways back to reading.


Hapa isn't skirting by, he's just surgical with his posts.
You were skirting by. This is probably the first opinion on something I see you giving.


Can you post why we should vote Jock over Hapa? Or are you going to continue defending his lack of posting and instant town read on you?

My concern is that every time we vote one of the most active players off the game, it's always turns out as town. Last game we played Sentinel is playing the same way Hap is and he ended up being the roleblocker.


Who are your top towns?


raynpelikoneet
Chezinu
BloodyC0bbler
Trfel


Include Hap and exclude chez/bloody. The rest is null, I don't have a slight clue yet to who is mafia is until night kill or D2 posts. As for your rayn stuff, I think it was generic casing since it was the start of the game, but definitely something to look at for D2.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 22:30 GMT
#394
Working and reading the thread from start to beginning. I left off on a Vivax post that made me look more into rayn and jock posts.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 22:38 GMT
#397
On April 07 2020 07:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Working and reading the thread from start to beginning. I left off on a Vivax post that made me look more into rayn and jock posts.


I want to also follow up with your BC case, but I need to read it into context.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 22:49 GMT
#398
On April 07 2020 07:36 Hapahauli wrote:
I understand that you're re-reading the thread, there's a fair amount of new and present content to go on. What do you make of Rayn and BC?


I don't think Rayn is mafia, he's a head strong player when he's town, and I can see it in him. Jock though first went for trfel, then rayn, then me, then you. BC on the other hand is interesting. He voted for you first. That's my biggest scum tell this game. BC/Jock does seem like a possible team when Jock leaned on you last.

The only other conclusion I can come up with is that, Jock knew he scum slipped and told Chez to vote him instantly to keep Chez safe. Very tinfoiling but this is mafia, you never fucking know anymore...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 22:54 GMT
#399
On April 07 2020 01:15 Vivax wrote:
If we murder Shockeyy here even if he's town it's one less vote for mafia in the long run.


This post also made me feel bad. I guess I am lynch bait after almost voting Hap off.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 22:56 GMT
#400
On April 07 2020 06:55 Trfel wrote:
BloodyC0bbler, thanks for answering. I'll take some time and think about it.

ShoCkeyy, thanks for answering too. For the record, my "case" on raynpelikoneet was pretty weak, and I don't think it's worth revisiting. Just to make sure, you are saying Hapahauli is town and BloodyC0bbler and Chezinu are null? Or the reverse?


You're correct with the first assumption.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 23:25 GMT
#401
So the crowd got quiet now?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 23:30 GMT
#403
I keep re-reading through posts 230 and 338. Kinda stuck on something here, especially with the day post.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 23:55 GMT
#406
It deals with Chezinu, and how he positions himself to be the first to kill Jock, then I ran into this post by Trfel starting to question Chez as well.

On April 06 2020 15:30 Trfel wrote:
Actually though, what if it is Chezinu?

When he's town I'm used to him posting some relevant information/reads. Obviously in his own Chezinu way, but they are there. This game he is voting for (iirc) Jockmcplop, but I couldn't understand why, does anyone know why?

Chezinu this game just feels very different from previous games where he's been town. Still awesome and funny, but different. I'll try and read a previous Chezinu mafia game or two.


On April 06 2020 15:57 Trfel wrote:
The most recent Chezinu mafia game I could find was six years old. And in that game he was more focused on providing reads, not less. So there goes that idea.


It could also mean we don't know how his most recent mafia play can be. He's posted videos of himself, I went through them, but I don't know if anybody else did. In the day post, it's description sounds like his character likes killing people. I feel like since Rayn and Chez have some kind of alignment instantly, it's like Rayn won't suspect Chez and it'll let him slide by.

On April 07 2020 02:15 Hapahauli wrote:
You realize that Chez only did two things this game: hard-bus his scumbuddy and give us a wonderful steak recipe... right?


Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 06 2020 23:58 GMT
#407
Anyways I'll be right back, I spent the last two - three hours catching up and ignored work
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 00:15 GMT
#411
On April 07 2020 09:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 08:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It deals with Chezinu, and how he positions himself to be the first to kill Jock, then I ran into this post by Trfel starting to question Chez as well.

On April 06 2020 15:30 Trfel wrote:
Actually though, what if it is Chezinu?

When he's town I'm used to him posting some relevant information/reads. Obviously in his own Chezinu way, but they are there. This game he is voting for (iirc) Jockmcplop, but I couldn't understand why, does anyone know why?

Chezinu this game just feels very different from previous games where he's been town. Still awesome and funny, but different. I'll try and read a previous Chezinu mafia game or two.


On April 06 2020 15:57 Trfel wrote:
The most recent Chezinu mafia game I could find was six years old. And in that game he was more focused on providing reads, not less. So there goes that idea.


It could also mean we don't know how his most recent mafia play can be. He's posted videos of himself, I went through them, but I don't know if anybody else did. In the day post, it's description sounds like his character likes killing people. I feel like since Rayn and Chez have some kind of alignment instantly, it's like Rayn won't suspect Chez and it'll let him slide by.

On April 07 2020 02:15 Hapahauli wrote:
You realize that Chez only did two things this game: hard-bus his scumbuddy and give us a wonderful steak recipe... right?


Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why?


I don't think anyone truly has a grasp on how Chez plays.

I personally feel it is difficult to entertain Chez's alignment until some of the more plausible scummers are dead. Occam's razor works for now - the most plausible explanation is that he's town, regardless of how random the vote is.

Also, I don't quite get this:
Show nested quote +
Kinda starts aligning with this. But you mentioned you don't want to discuss this in a later post? Any reason why?


Where did I say I didn't want to discuss Chez? In my long list-o-reads, I state something along the lines of I am not looking at Chez, because I am discounting the chance of "sophisticated" mafia plays (i.e. hard bus plays) due to how Jock was posting.


Is that not what you meant with the line here?

Chez, Trfel, and Vivax are in the do not lynch category. All of them had the opportunity to save their "teammate" but chose not to. If there is a bus play, we can explore that at LYLO.


K now I gotta go, be back in like an hour at least.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 01:03 GMT
#427
Back, wow the son is now trying to give up his mom too. I think Chez has a vendetta for women in the family.

On April 07 2020 09:50 Chezinu wrote:
DAD!!!!!!


Look what mom did to the pool!



Geez, did you kill something in there?

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 01:37 GMT
#431
On April 07 2020 10:09 Hapahauli wrote:
Still waiting for the results of your read-through Shockey...


Have you read anything in the thread so far that includes my name or have you ignored the past responses? I've been posting the results of my read through as I was active and responding to current questions.

The only other person that hasn't done much is Vivax, he hopped on that Hap casing Jock wagon really early, and then bounced for the night round, but that doesn't matter since you insta 100% towned him anyways. I think I've been active and willingly to answer questions, and give feedback. It may not be in full 10000 word posts but I'm active enough to help push town for a win given we make the right decisions.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 01:53 GMT
#433
On April 07 2020 09:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Shockeyy while being pressured is more answering questions while consistently reading to catch up. He has played in 20+ people games where by this point in time we'd have 200+ pages of content. He has experience in reading / being caught up in those games. So if you post 3-5 times in a 21 page game where the first 2ish pages are pregame / signups. So a 18-19 page game, 20 posts a page where most aren't very long catching up should be well, easy. Filter diving makes it easier. Given that to get anything of substance requires constantly pushing him to respond to things, makes me see scum motivations.

Not saying he hasn't had migraines but I also remember people faking moving / random other life stuff as scum to avoid posting in game.

Chez is honestly a mixture of 2 things. Last few games ive played with him, as town, hes at least helpful in his flavour posting. You can clearly see what he wants. So far this game flavour wise, the only thing he has wanted to do was kill Andrezza. To drop a vote (never change said vote) and manage to make that specific person die is pretty lucky no?
I may have bias because his steak cooking method made me die inside.


Funny, given that the the first game I played was one of yours, and it had +30 and only 40 pages. Half of what we have now, with less players, I was also one of the few townies that got lynched but guessed mafia correctly.

Given the current scale I think I'm doing a lot to contribute my feedback even though it seems like it's not taken seriously.

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 01:57 GMT
#435
On April 07 2020 10:44 Hapahauli wrote:
I have read all of your posts Shock.

Ultimately your alignment is a very important piece of that puzzle, and I'm gonna give you a hard time because I want to squeeze those juicy reads out of you.

So three questions for starters so we can begin to consolidate your opinions and feels:
1) Who is in your "do not lynch" bucket?
2) Who is in your "lynch" bucket?
3) Of Bucket #2, who is your top candidate and why? What makes them worse than other candidates?



1) rayn, hap, trfel
2) bloodycobbler, chezinu
3) havent decided, depends on night kill sadly.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 02:21 GMT
#443
On April 07 2020 11:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 10:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 07 2020 10:44 Hapahauli wrote:
I have read all of your posts Shock.

Ultimately your alignment is a very important piece of that puzzle, and I'm gonna give you a hard time because I want to squeeze those juicy reads out of you.

So three questions for starters so we can begin to consolidate your opinions and feels:
1) Who is in your "do not lynch" bucket?
2) Who is in your "lynch" bucket?
3) Of Bucket #2, who is your top candidate and why? What makes them worse than other candidates?



1) rayn, hap, trfel
2) bloodycobbler, chezinu
3) havent decided, depends on night kill sadly.


What bucket is Vivax in?


It relates to third, I want to town lean him. But then again, one of the last ones to jump on the jock train, and decided to disappear right after the d1 post. Then he also says he doesn't mind killing a town. I'm on the fence.
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