[N]Emergency Quarantine Mafia - Page 4

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 27 2020 20:06 GMT

#682

Yea that seems obvious now, and I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that last post by him has changed my thoughts on him.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 27 2020 22:05 GMT

#688

On March 28 2020 06:55 Vivax wrote:
Ok GB.
Sorry for calling you dumb or mafia for that play and saying you are shitting up the thread.

But you derailed a lynch onto a townie.
While voting with your scumread that you spent a ton of posts on in what looks like an ego-war you deliberately wanted to start.
Which makes perfect sense for mafia before the nr.1 way to get HF to start spamming the thread is to trigger him in some way. When he's mafia he does that on his own. The game is much less confusing when he can just do his thing in peace for a while.

And what I meant with Palmar+Shockey not playing referred to them wasting their votes.

How did I waste my vote? I don't think I did.

I think by voting a town to get lynch is a waste of a vote and vote cycle.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 27 2020 22:05 GMT

#689

On March 28 2020 05:53 GlowingBear wrote:

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Sure.

I'm not playing the game anymore, have a good time you all.

Don't even listen to HF, we already know what HE tried to do. He literally spent the whole day trying to convince everyone why we should vote for KSC even though there was barely any substance, just a lot of words.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 27 2020 22:56 GMT

#693

On March 28 2020 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
I'm about 75% sure Shockeyy is mafia.

Why 75? What's the other 25%?

It's like you stated here in the bolded part at the last part of the paragraph.

On March 27 2020 08:46 Holyflare wrote:

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On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:

On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote:

On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote:
If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia.

For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read

On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote:
and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV

I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game.

Mafia have three main objectives:

Blend
Sew discontent
Survive

The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems:

1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad.
2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them.
3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad.

Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee.

On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
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Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?

GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.

Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.

The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak.

We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about?

I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case.

On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead )

going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted.
LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads.

no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache.
the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone.

There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny.

Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible.

Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway".

Kelsier's current mindset if town: ??????
Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on.

These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons.

Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these.

On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote:

On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Setup Information

The exact roles in this game are as follows:

Antivaxxer
Coughing Boomer

American Doctor
8x Healthy Boomer

fixed

This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting.

Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least.

you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts?

lul x2

Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions.

On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read.

Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta.

On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?

Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?

GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.

Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads.

On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?

Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?

GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.

Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing.

To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia.

Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad.

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On March 27 2020 03:52 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:

On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread.

HF, is Vivax town?

And what you got out of that push onto Rels?

Nothing, I was just getting traction.

On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote:

On March 26 2020 09:49 GlowingBear wrote:
zZz

Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me!

Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia?

On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote:

On March 26 2020 10:58 Rels wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

why?

Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.

This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia.

On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote:

On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote:
If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia.

For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read

On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote:
and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV

I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game.

Mafia have three main objectives:

Blend
Sew discontent
Survive

On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
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GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.

We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about?

I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case.

On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote:

On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Setup Information

The exact roles in this game are as follows:

Antivaxxer
Coughing Boomer

American Doctor
8x Healthy Boomer

fixed

This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting.

Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least.

you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts?

lul x2

Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions.

On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read.

Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta.

On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?

Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?

GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.

Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads.

On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:

On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?

Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?

GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.

Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing.

Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad.

On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary.

However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this.

Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia?

On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote:
also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel.

Just lynch those 4 and the game is over.

Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out.

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And this is basically what's interesting right now.

Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda.

##Vote: Holyflare

So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you.
##Vote: Holyflare

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These posts, afking and work commitments are why this forum is dead and others thrive.

You post a long case and people agree with it (which is fine because they actually elaborated on reasons why) but other people disagree with it and say absolutely nothing relevant to any of the points within it. There is no debate about what points are constructed or what points make someone mafia, there is no push for me because someone thinks this is a narrative (instead, there is a push for me because people can't read the voting thread). This forum is plagued by people talking AT each other saying meagre sentences like "I think he is town" or "I think he is mafia" and no actual discourse about any points anyone raises.

You're not practicing what you're preaching...

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 03:32 GMT

#698

On March 28 2020 11:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Seriously noone commented on that stuff since I posted it 2 hours ago? Jesus dead thread

I'm around, and can post in between fortnite games with the wife.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 03:42 GMT

#700

Of course, town died day 1. Makes the game so much harder for us, and easier for them.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 04:21 GMT

#702

On March 28 2020 12:47 LightningStrike wrote:

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Do you think Trfel is town based on his play and EoD stuff?

He mostly questioned me which I answered hopefully all the questions. He did seem interested in the way I was thinking and why I was thinking.

I don't however think it makes him town just yet. He was still in the same boat with one of the other people I think are mafia. It makes it rough to see his alignments just yet because he did make a play on Palmar who's my next guest as mafia. And if Trfel is mafia, he would try and play the Palmar card to try and get another target lynched. I'm still holding back on whether to call him town or mafia yet.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 05:13 GMT

#704

On March 28 2020 13:36 LightningStrike wrote:

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Noted.

What are your thoughts on Vivax recent posts? and HF recent post about how GB caused the death of KSC?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 19:49 GMT

#741

On March 29 2020 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
It's almost unbelievable the amount of crap that flows through Shockeyy and GB's posts.

This post is crap ;(

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 20:36 GMT

#750

On March 29 2020 05:08 Holyflare wrote:

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No, it's really not. At each point you come up with a new narrative revolving around my case on Kelsier and how I was forced into making points on him when that quite clearly doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to anyone who thinks through that logic.

Then you evolve the narrative to be about how I pushed Kelsier all game based on a shitty case but even the guy I cased himself literally said it was a good case. Furthermore, there was expanding evidence not related to my case at all on Kelsier that I kept researching to get a better read on him since, you know, he just afkd 90% of tbe cycle.

Then and only then do you blame the Kelsier lynch on my shitty case and me WHEN I SAID TRFEL WAS A BETTER LYNCH and there's 4 other non me players on Kelsier that pushed him for infinitely worse reasons.

GB killed him because he couldn't get enough votes on me? What a load of shit.

You prepare narratives and don't care about the follow up and then compound more and more platitudes thinking it makes sense to your scenario.

If Trfel was a better lunch why didn’t you move your vote?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 20:36 GMT

#752

On March 29 2020 05:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:

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If Trfel was a better lunch why didn’t you move your vote?

Lynch* damn autocorrect

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 20:37 GMT

#754

I never said Trfel was a great lunch?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 20:51 GMT

#756

On March 29 2020 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
My narrative is literally a quote from your filter. It's your own narrative that caught you.

This lol

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 20:59 GMT

#757

I mean if I were mafia, getting a case out first and having others follow it is a great way to start. GB is only one person, there were others involved voting KSC out.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

March 28 2020 21:39 GMT

#780

On March 29 2020 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to summarise your play this game ShoCkeyy it's wilfully ignorant. I don't normally get that feeling at all from you. What's changed?

Idk? I think I'm putting more time into the game than previous games since I'm stuck at home most of the time