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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 26 2020 19:07 GMT
#261
On March 27 2020 03:58 Vivax wrote:
Anyone got a plausible explanation for why GB is so oblivious to anything Sent-related?


Can you give other reads so I can further investigate your alignment?

I think I was very clear about Sentinel on my last post.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 26 2020 19:07 GMT
#262
Oh ninjad:

Sentinel
Lynching himself makes no sense as town.


Yup, that's one of the reasons he's mafia for. Anti-town plays getting him read as town.
He didn't have any particular reason for coming snarky as that into the thread except for having rolled mafia.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 26 2020 19:13 GMT
#263
On March 27 2020 03:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Here's where I'm at:

LS
LS is difficult to read but I have a feeling he is town, mostly because he seems interested in the game.

Palmar
He seems relaxed and having fun. He is also pushing who he thinks is mafia. Passable play.

KelsierSC
Had the same reaction I had on Holyflare's case. I can get behind his logic, even if he is overreacting.

Holyflare
Builds a whole case focusing on Kelsier but is voting Sentinel. His case seems constructed. I don't see him actively trying to solve the whole game, attacking relevant posts. Way too focused on an easy lynch. Not really how I expect him to play as town.


Trfel
Last post is veeeery very non-committal. Also, agrees with Holyflare on Sentinel but says he doesn't understand his case. Still not voting Sentinel.

Sentinel
Lynching himself makes no sense as town.

I'm not sure about Rels. Although I think he is not really taking strong stances, he is reacting accordingly to what is being posted on the thread. I wouldn't lynch him day1.

Chezinu is unreadable.

Vivax is tunneled on Sentinel on weak grounds. The only reason this is not a scum lean is because Vivax tends be like this as town too. @Vivax, what do you think of the other players?

I find Shockey unreadable at this point. Last time I've played with him, he seemed mafia as hell. Turns out he was town.


Yea I mentioned to Chen as well that I'm not even going to try to figure you out day one... every time that happens, we both go at each other for no reason and we both end up town anyways.

Do I find HF to be mafia? Sure. It does seem like it with that double play. But I don't agree on Palmar, if HF isn't mafia then Palmar is vice versa, or theyre both a team together.

Sentinel play can be construed as mafia, or a desperate townie trying to get HF off their back. We all know HF is a strong player in either position, but having played with HF before as mafia, I feel like he's playing as mafia this time around. the point of mafia team is to confuse the town. It's already starting to happen with his play.
Life?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 19:19 GMT
#264
On March 27 2020 04:07 Vivax wrote:
Oh ninjad:

Show nested quote +
Sentinel
Lynching himself makes no sense as town.


Yup, that's one of the reasons he's mafia for. Anti-town plays getting him read as town.
He didn't have any particular reason for coming snarky as that into the thread except for having rolled mafia.

tbh I find it more often than not that Town players do the self voting stuff myself which I had done plenty of times as town.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 26 2020 19:25 GMT
#265
Try with a simpler question then: What has he done so far in the game that could be called pro-town?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 26 2020 19:26 GMT
#266
Usually I have the monopoly on conspiracies, not GB.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 19:29 GMT
#267
On March 27 2020 04:25 Vivax wrote:
Try with a simpler question then: What has he done so far in the game that could be called pro-town?

Good point and part of the reason why I had him null and not town is because of his stuff been very meh.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 26 2020 19:36 GMT
#268
Feels like GB is calling Sentinel mafia but doesn't actually want to lynch him.
Btw nice participation from everyone, glad to be able to play with you again.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 26 2020 19:36 GMT
#269
On March 27 2020 04:07 Vivax wrote:
Oh ninjad:

Show nested quote +
Sentinel
Lynching himself makes no sense as town.


Yup, that's one of the reasons he's mafia for. Anti-town plays getting him read as town.
He didn't have any particular reason for coming snarky as that into the thread except for having rolled mafia.


Or it could mean he rather prove hes town with his death. I don't get the mentality of let's label him mafia because he self voted. It could also just be really bad play by town, this is definitely something I've done in the past, and have been labeled as mafia for it while I was town.
Life?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 26 2020 19:38 GMT
#270
On March 27 2020 04:25 Vivax wrote:
Try with a simpler question then: What has he done so far in the game that could be called pro-town?


Another question: What has he done so far in the game that could be call mafia?

Nothing, he is at most playing anti-town. But so are other players.

You're avoiding giving me other reads for some reason?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 26 2020 19:39 GMT
#271
On March 27 2020 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2020 04:07 Vivax wrote:
Oh ninjad:

Sentinel
Lynching himself makes no sense as town.


Yup, that's one of the reasons he's mafia for. Anti-town plays getting him read as town.
He didn't have any particular reason for coming snarky as that into the thread except for having rolled mafia.


Or it could mean he rather prove hes town with his death. I don't get the mentality of let's label him mafia because he self voted. It could also just be really bad play by town, this is definitely something I've done in the past, and have been labeled as mafia for it while I was town.


I do however understand the mentality of "oh obvious mafia is trying to pass as town". But in most cases, I don't think I've seen mafia self vote right off the bat.
Life?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 26 2020 19:40 GMT
#272
Vivax, let's suppose Sentinel is confirmed town.

Who's mafia and why?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 26 2020 19:55 GMT
#273
Where's Damdred when you need him?
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2020 20:03 GMT
#274
On March 26 2020 15:35 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary.

However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this.

Hi Mr. Truffles!
Hi Mr. Chezinu! Have you determined anything about the floating teddy bear?

@GlowingBear, you seem to have severely misunderstood my post.
On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary.

However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this.
The first paragraph, that you described as noncomittal, is actually the best point against KelsierSC that has been brought up by someone other than Holyflare. See the quotes in question:
On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead )

going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted.
LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads.
(emphasis mine)
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.
These don't line up. I get that agreeing with someone's reads and reading them as town are different things, but in this case KelsierSC didn't like LightningStrike's logic or read results and never mentioned a positive thing. Just read the posts yourself, I still don't understand AT ALL how KelsierSC decided to townread LightningStrike there. There was nothing about the conversation that "felt ok."

GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 26 2020 20:04 GMT
#275
Hello?

Is there anybody in there?

+ Show Spoiler +
Just nod if you can hear me
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2020 20:06 GMT
#276
Whoops, meant to hit preview, not post...

As to the second part, I saw something I didn't understand, so I asked about it. Holyflare explained it, it makes sense now.

Yes, I'm pretty suspicious of KelsierSC. That's generally what it means when someone says they agree with a large case on them, and then provide additional reasons to scumread them. However I see no reason to vote currently.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 26 2020 20:07 GMT
#277
On March 27 2020 04:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Vivax, let's suppose Sentinel is confirmed town.

Who's mafia and why?


Trfel probably. His posts look a bit too much like he's trying to be a good doggo.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 26 2020 20:08 GMT
#278
On March 27 2020 05:03 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 15:35 Chezinu wrote:
On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary.

However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this.

Hi Mr. Truffles!
Hi Mr. Chezinu! Have you determined anything about the floating teddy bear?

@GlowingBear, you seem to have severely misunderstood my post.
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary.

However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this.
The first paragraph, that you described as noncomittal, is actually the best point against KelsierSC that has been brought up by someone other than Holyflare. See the quotes in question:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead )

going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted.
LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads.
(emphasis mine)
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.
These don't line up. I get that agreeing with someone's reads and reading them as town are different things, but in this case KelsierSC didn't like LightningStrike's logic or read results and never mentioned a positive thing. Just read the posts yourself, I still don't understand AT ALL how KelsierSC decided to townread LightningStrike there. There was nothing about the conversation that "felt ok."



I believe this is actually very townie of Kelsier. He came to the thread, posted his impressions in a very objective manner. Having bad reads isn't alignment indicative, or it is, at least, town lean. I had the same impression Kelsier had with LS. The interaction feels natural.

Who would you vote for now?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 20:08 GMT
#279
On March 27 2020 04:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Where's Damdred when you need him?

Same
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 26 2020 20:10 GMT
#280
On March 27 2020 05:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2020 04:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Vivax, let's suppose Sentinel is confirmed town.

Who's mafia and why?


Trfel probably. His posts look a bit too much like he's trying to be a good doggo.


What about Holyflare? What do you think of him?
I'm adorable.
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