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On September 29 2019 21:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.
Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth. Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far. I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued. As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today. I think you are too easy on HF here, what he has done so far isnt outside the range of what tìhe is capable of as scum. Id give him a freepass today and start being inquisitive around tomorrow. I dont expect that both of the mafia team are high profile players after a night without bloodshed.Going to take a look at GB but he seemed townie to me so far except for the fact he didnt notice how faulty eywas reasoning was when he voted you. Turning a blind eye there is possibly the only reason he can be mafia to me.
What do you mean with this?
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On September 29 2019 21:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.
Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth. Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far. I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued. As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today. I think you are too easy on HF here, what he has done so far isnt outside the range of what tìhe is capable of as scum. Id give him a freepass today and start being inquisitive around tomorrow. I dont expect that both of the mafia team are high profile players after a night without bloodshed.Going to take a look at GB but he seemed townie to me so far except for the fact he didnt notice how faulty eywas reasoning was when he voted you. Turning a blind eye there is possibly the only reason he can be mafia to me.
HF is active
I would consider HF a good scum (even tho I haven't played with him being one) but by the way you said the red part, I assume you think he is at least decent.
I suppose that if you believe the red part is because you are clearing HF, right?
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On September 29 2019 22:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 22:34 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2019 21:03 Vivax wrote:On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.
Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth. Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far. I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued. As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today. I think you are too easy on HF here, what he has done so far isnt outside the range of what tìhe is capable of as scum. Id give him a freepass today and start being inquisitive around tomorrow. I dont expect that both of the mafia team are high profile players after a night without bloodshed.Going to take a look at GB but he seemed townie to me so far except for the fact he didnt notice how faulty eywas reasoning was when he voted you. Turning a blind eye there is possibly the only reason he can be mafia to me. What do you mean with this? its a long shot guess that they chose a shitty target. so it slightly reduces the odds that HF is mafia. Speculation Im not going to pursue further. Im not lynching GB btw.
Who are you lynching then?
Tube for inactivity?
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Feel free to make a case for disliking the combination of your “lets vote tube for pressure” and “mafia is unexperienced” throwing a bit of shade of inactivity in a lowkey way.
But let’s get to work.
Tell me more about the mafia team, you know the red part that has “this is why there is not a bloodbath”
If there is something I am extremely good at is night actions and scenarios 👏🏼
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No, I am just saying that “pushing someone to make him talk” is dumb considering the levels of activity.
And I know I am good  but I wont share because if by “actions” and “results” is how people will clear themselves I wont give all the scenarios so they pick one. My work is to debunk the actions.
There was a drawing game and my yelling and annoying ass helped.
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You are missunderstanding, if both of you are town mafia can come and place the vote on tube and then afk and shit and say “Oh I wanted him to talk”.
Besides if it is true he is busy with votes or not he wont come.
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Could someone please check Shockey and see the natural flow of his reads ~?
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On September 30 2019 02:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote:
Could someone please check Shockey and see the natural flow of his reads ~?
werent you complaining that he scumread you in a way that doesnt allow justification? why is it natural flow now?
The “ ~ “ implies sarcasm.
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On September 29 2019 21:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.
Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth. Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far. I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued. As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today. I think you are too easy on HF here, what he has done so far isnt outside the range of what tìhe is capable of as scum. Id give him a freepass today and start being inquisitive around tomorrow. I dont expect that both of the mafia team are high profile players after a night without bloodshed. Going to take a look at GB but he seemed townie to me so far except for the fact he didnt notice how faulty eywas reasoning was when he voted you. Turning a blind eye there is possibly the only reason he can be mafia to me.
Could you tell me who are the high profile scummplayers and the ones who are not high profiled?
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I'll make a case that will probably get ignored.
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HF I trust you will read this.
Hello, my name is Shockey.
I have lied several times during the game.
Let's start with part 1
I think someone is mafia but I want another person to start the train.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 27 2019 01:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Can we vote Eywa? On September 27 2019 02:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
There it is, I’ll sheep GB this round. Eywa is all over the place in my eyes. Just trying to stick shit to the wall. Why do you need to Sheep GB if you think Eywa is mafia? If you have your read you stick to it until something better comes out. Why do you need to say that it is because of GB idea or something? If I am misreading please clarify. On September 27 2019 05:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You essentially ignored Branches question, I’m positive you couldn’t have missed it unless it was done on purpose and you actually have no reason and are trying to save your mafia partner?!? I explained several times that the reason I didn't want to vote Ewya is mostly because last game I was speechless with him reads, even if there was a good case against him he got the mafia right so I wanted to see more of that, it is like that rule of "never lynch a veteran", it happened also last game but suddenly in this game you can go against everyone. I also didn't read Branch as 100% mafia but didn't like his reaction on Ewya so between the two, I would rather see Branch dead. Can you blame me? I don't like disdain nor lack of effort. I would have loved to see Shockey lynched and that is why he was my first vote. On September 27 2019 02:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Branch.AUT (1): Eywa
Eywa (1): FreezingFoot
FecalFeast (0): FreezingFoot
Not Voting (7): FecalFeast, Vivax, CopCake, Tubesock, ShoCkeyy, Branch.AUT, Boxerfred
Branch.AUT is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Friday, Sep 27 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in He indeed waited for someone else to start the train. When he said "why don't we vote ewya" was at: 11:10 during the 26th He voted for Ewya at: 8:43 pm on the 27th
GB VS CAKE why one is more scummy than the other for shockey?
+ Show Spoiler +On September 27 2019 11:56 ShoCkeyy wrote:Then there's also this: Lol... we haven't even got passed day one and Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eyes. I still think has a chance of being mafia. Soooo.... that's pretty quick to go from Null to Town. Just saying. He calls me mafia for saying that Ewya from no opinion needs to see more (null) to town. Then he says this: On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does.
Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well. On September 28 2019 00:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2019 23:15 CopCake wrote:On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does.
Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well. And a “magia Eywa” would just throw a randol name and expect people to follow him? That is his mafia game? I am basing my read on interactions, if he changes his personality because early game I didnt see it, then his normal self showed off in the way he answered GB with the random list dot org page. Not saying he is right on his read, if you see I havent voted because my mafia read is Vivax. I dont see the “fallacy” Could you please point me what makes Ewya mafia? A bad read? Early game? Trying to take the charge of town? When we have other two “Veterans” to yell at each other? I personally think calling people out for mafia on the first day is very mafiaesque . A normal town person like myself, would rather see discussion, than just straight finger pointing. Eywa was quick to point fingers at branch, and instantly push for a lynch.I don't think anybody else is yelling, I just think this constant push for branch who hasn't done much to warrant it in the beginning isn't normal town behavior. If you want to approve of it, then you neither are working with the town. So let's get this straight. Calling someone mafia the very first day is mafia, right? According to him. And going from Null to Town is also very mafia, right? This is HIS logic, am I correct? Then why isn't GB Mafia? Why doesn't he call out GB for changing his read from mafia to town to Ewya? On September 26 2019 07:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
The Great GB’S List of Early Reads (NOTE: VERY ACCURATE!!!1!)
boxerfred
FF
VIVAX
Eywax-
Got’em already! On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch.
##Unvote
##Vote: Branch.AUT
Flow of reads, the importance of meta and info never leaked until later.
What do you guys think of meta reads? Do you use them? I know you do, things like "Glowingbear is a good scum" has been said, stuff like "HF can pull this as mafia too", so if you know that someone tends to do certain thing as mafia you share that info to the class and scum hunt from that, right?
+ Show Spoiler + On September 28 2019 23:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Good night since it’s night phase. I think copcake or tube are mafia, change my mind. On September 29 2019 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 04:11 CopCake wrote:On September 27 2019 05:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You essentially ignored Branches question, I’m positive you couldn’t have missed it unless it was done on purpose and you actually have no reason and are trying to save your mafia partner?!? So tell me, now that you saw that Ewya flipped town, am I still mafia? Idk? It’s 50/50. You’re the scummiest so far in my reads however. Between you and Tube I am forever his biggest scum read, always. And says he reads GB as town. On September 29 2019 04:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You seem upset I town read GB but not you, wonder why. Then he says this shit of Boxer On September 29 2019 04:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
At least I’m posting? Lol... Boxer and Tube haven’t posted. And I’ve played on mafia team before with boxer and that’s his style as mafia. The no kill tonight was odd in general, problably afk, so I can assume that part of the mafia team is within the people that didn’t vote the first day. WHY THE FUCK AM I MORE MAFIA THAN BOXER? IF YOU KNOW BOXER META AS MAFIA? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!!!!!!!! WHY YOU NEVER SAID THIS BEFORE SO PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT BOXER? WHY? On September 29 2019 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
I guess I shouldn't have returned. Only cake has even quoted something I've written and argued points with me. The rest of you just pointlessly comment and afk again and you enable mafia to just skate by doing nothing each and every game.
This will absolutely be my last game here. The pool has also gotten smaller. The more people involved, the more conversations, it's also the weekend, assuming everyone is busy like myself. Currently packing for a work trip. But either way, I'm around and always checking, and trying to at least phone post which isn't the best to use to debate. I think you asked me earlier what my town reads were and so far, Vivax seems like a good town read. I would also say yourself HF is a good town read. GB is like 60/40 for me while CopCake is 50/50 still. Where the hell is boxer there if GB is 60/40? one of your biggest town reads that you would sheep? the person you said you have played before and tends to end up as town? Why this sudden change of heart?
And finally this post that is super bad overall.
On September 29 2019 04:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You don’t know how to read mister? I said part, for me that means probably the one person who’s mafia and not afk didn’t have discussion on who to kill resulting in the no kill. Or they aren’t afk and just playing the role of afk. Now mafia possibly gets another free town kill w.o having to do much because town will just yell at each other as it usually does.
When the rules say clearly:
Mafia cannot no shoot.
Link to that part of the rules: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/551051-newbie-student-mafia-xxx#2
MAFIA DID SEND A KILL.
FOR GOD'S SAKE
/end rant
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On September 30 2019 06:19 Holyflare wrote:
If you vote gb he will almost certainly turn up. So should probably get to that.
No coincidence that I absorb kp and he afks.
I can also live with this.
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GB if you are lurking I want you here RN.
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This quote bothered me a lot.
On September 30 2019 00:59 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 00:51 Tubesock wrote:
I’m here for a little bit.
I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia.
As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives? HF or GB whos side are you on?
So I decided to filter you.
On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.
Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth. Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far.
I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued. As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today.
On September 30 2019 06:14 Branch.AUT wrote:
It's too early to commit my vote for the day. Too mich can happen on the next 20 hours.
Right now I am excluding copcake, vivax and myself.
You think HF made an excellent work on GB which is your top mafia read but he is not town enough to be on your list.
Yeah, no.
Posts like "which side are you on" are scummy, to me. It only invites people to take sides which you shouldn't if you are town, you look for the truth.
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I am married to Shockey+Branch mafia team.
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On September 30 2019 05:01 Branch.AUT wrote:
Just reread the filters of Shockey and Vivax
Vivax wisely suggests that one single case does not a town!HF make, no matter how well it resonates with my thoughts. I also appreciate his effort to further involve the lurkers (namely shockey, boxer and tubesock) in the game. Leaning town on Vivax.
Shockey could easily be scum here. Other than argue with copcake the only thing he did this game was keep the eywa vs branch controversy going on day1, which was a tvt lynch decision, where mafia obviously benefits from diving the thread.
I mean, this part.
GB is your biggest scum read, by your own.
And I agree that you shouldn't call someone town just because it has the same suspects as you but...
Do you seriously think HF would give out his partner?
Why is GB mafia to YOU?
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Why would you sheep the read of your scummiest read?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DIE
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On September 30 2019 12:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 08:22 CopCake wrote:This quote bothered me a lot. On September 30 2019 00:59 Branch.AUT wrote:On September 30 2019 00:51 Tubesock wrote:
I’m here for a little bit.
I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia.
As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives? HF or GB whos side are you on? So I decided to filter you. On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.
Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth. Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far.
I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued. As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today. On September 30 2019 06:14 Branch.AUT wrote:
It's too early to commit my vote for the day. Too mich can happen on the next 20 hours.
Right now I am excluding copcake, vivax and myself. You think HF made an excellent work on GB which is your top mafia read but he is not town enough to be on your list. Yeah, no. Posts like "which side are you on" are scummy, to me. It only invites people to take sides which you shouldn't if you are town, you look for the truth. The reason he doesn't town read me is because of some nonsense vivax wrote that it could in my mafia range. It's pretty bad to say my case on gb is good and also not be voting him with me. It also feels like he's ignored any other case I've put out there because he said 1 case doesn't make me town (but I've made at least 2-3).
Yes but he called you town for your actions tho, not just that you share the same opinions on him about GB.
Btw, how many mafia do we have in this game?
I assumed it was two but Shockey says it is three.
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On September 30 2019 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
Tbh I don't even know when the deadline is
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