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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 21:56 GMT
#1818
Literally the only person I am mafia with is shockey and you won't vote him. JUICY.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 21:57 GMT
#1819
I have the biggest justice boner right now. All of my flaming retribution will be poured into lynching your mafia agenda. Feel my fiery vengeance.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 22:10 GMT
#1821
On October 05 2019 07:04 Tubesock wrote:
You’re misconstruing everything. The only accurate thing you said is it could be called nightkill wifom. The rest is bullshit.

And how can you say I’m hypocritical by saying you defended Vivax implying you’re mafia with him, and the only person you’re mafia with is Shockeyy? How does that logic worth. I’ve said many times it could be shockeyy or Vivax with you.

And it isn’t just nk wifom. I don’t believe there’s 2 blues in 9 player game. You also haven’t done anything mafia HF wouldn’t also be able to do. Your claim was far more elaborate than town HF would bother with. Mafia!HF needs an elaborate claim. You constantly claim I don’t buy for a second that town!HF would say “I had to make it elaborate so town would accept it”


What exactly have I misconstrued. This is just a baseless statement. Quote a post where I misconstrued what you said and prove I did it. I will wait for eternity for this because I have literally done nothing of the sort. I even just scoured your filter for mentions of shockey or ANY scum reads at all and it is the most lackluster thing I have ever read in my life. Your scum list was essentially 3 lurkers for the entirety of the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 22:18 GMT
#1822
It's really QUITE obvious why I'm not mafia. Mafia holyflare wants the easiest game possible. He wants to kill everyone that talks, make life easy so he can be lazy and not draw needless attention to himself because his worst feeling when playing mafia is writing massive walls of text to dazzle people.

I would never in a million years think of a fake claim of a tracker in a mini if no kp happened n1, that's ludicrous. I don't even think it's balanced at all, even with a mafia rber and whatever else they have (probably a wanderer or something).

Then, on d2 when I could literally kill shockey (if he's town) and boxerfred and bring the game to lylo I instead opt to vote for the modkilled player and plan to drag the game and extend it for 2 more cycles by no lynching the next day. This is something I would only ever do if shockey is directly my mafia partner, never in any other circumstance would I do that.

Then I would have had to have made the absolute dumbest mistake in history n2 and literally hard claimed blue with a breadcrumb that I'm tracker in the thread AND SEND THE KP FROM ME INSTEAD OF SHOCKEY OR VIVAX??????????????????????????????????????? loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. What planet do I live on where I ever let that happen????

Have you ever been in a mafia holyflare game where 1 player has died the entire game? No, neither have I.

If I'm mafia with vivax I never ever in my life defend that guy. He's the scummiest guy and the easiest to get cred from. I just truly have ogi information that he might be town and didn't want to lynch him when he has a not tiny amount of posts.

Then there's the fact I lynch GB over literally anyone else because I just want to be right.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 22:20 GMT
#1823
And to explain why I would never do that as a mafia hf, we just have to come full circle to your really awful argument. "Why is hf alive?!". What a bastion of intellectual summary that is, like I have never been left alive by mafia ever before, especially with my reads as they are.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 22:26 GMT
#1824
Tubesock shockey references:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 28 2019 02:10 Tubesock wrote:
I’m probably voting Eywa. He’s the least towny of the two with votes. I do think Vivax and Shockeyy are townish too.


Town shockey.

On September 28 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
What do people think of CopCake?

I’m 180 on their reads. Not sure how someone can town Boxer, and don’t like the Vivax, Shockeyy, Branch team.


Doesn't like shockeyy in a scum team (because he town reads him)

On September 28 2019 02:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 02:31 CopCake wrote:
I mean Shockey feels fake as fuck about his “happiness” to see GB.

Do they have history or something?

I mean when I saw him the first thing that came to my mind was “ugh that dude who bussed his mafia partners to win” but since I am town I have to be impartial and he seems extremely laid back and towny, doing towny things without being too paranoid. Add the fact that he hasnt played in some time so seems like he is happy to get a role that doesnt make his ass work that much.


Why would mafia fake enthusiasm for GB’s return?


Defends shockey from an accusation from copcake.

On September 30 2019 01:01 Tubesock wrote:
Mafia probably Branch, Boxerfred, and Shockeyy.

None are moving the game forward. Everyone else seems to be trying.


Suddenly becomes mafia just for not moving the game forward. Notice all the other 2 were lurker towns, very easy to just throw a partner in.

On September 30 2019 01:12 Tubesock wrote:
I don’t mind Shockeyys attitude towards CopCake. So I’m down to Boxer and Branch.


Town again lol.

On September 30 2019 02:06 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote:
Could someone please check Shockey and see the natural flow of his reads ~?



It seems natural towards you. I don’t see why he scumreads me over Boxerfred.


Nothingness.

On September 30 2019 02:30 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 29 2019 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
I guess I shouldn't have returned. Only cake has even quoted something I've written and argued points with me. The rest of you just pointlessly comment and afk again and you enable mafia to just skate by doing nothing each and every game.

This will absolutely be my last game here.



The pool has also gotten smaller. The more people involved, the more conversations, it's also the weekend, assuming everyone is busy like myself. Currently packing for a work trip. But either way, I'm around and always checking, and trying to at least phone post which isn't the best to use to debate.

I think you asked me earlier what my town reads were and so far,

Vivax seems like a good town read. I would also say yourself HF is a good town read. GB is like 60/40 for me while CopCake is 50/50 still.


What specifically makes Vivax a good town read?


Literally a question to shockey that gets no follow up or answer or response to.

On October 01 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
I still think it’s in Boxer, shockeyy, or Branch.


shockey mysteriously appears in the scum list again with nothing changed in between and has to be asked for reasoning

On October 01 2019 02:29 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 02:20 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
I still think it’s in Boxer, shockeyy, or Branch.


Oh you already answered.

Could you reason your reads?


Some OMGUS, and how he pretty much only has me as his scumread but hasn’t done anything to push me or figure out my alignment at all. He simply omgus’ Copcake defensively and nothing else. He has t progressed the game forward in any way.

Branch is deliberately being uncooperative.


the reasoning is omgus and the same reason he mafia read him before but he was REMOVED from that mafia list so the non-progression of the game should have been counteracted previously by something shockey did, yet that was clearly forgotten here

On October 02 2019 07:54 Tubesock wrote:
I’m back.

I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk.

So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play.



this is literally the same scum list most of the game and it was basically just lurkers (hint: town reads me here really hard, conveniently forgot about that didn't he?)

On October 03 2019 06:25 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 06:23 Branch.AUT wrote:
Copcake, what does it take for you to stop this immense tunnel on shockeyy?


Probably for Shockeyy to do something towny. So far he’s “uh I’m town yo!”

On October 03 2019 06:28 Tubesock wrote:
Hmm. If Shockeyy and HF were mafia, then I can see Shockeyy not voting to save himself.


Pointless conspiracy of something that would never in a million years happen. Don't think shockey was even around at deadline to vote to be honest (I checked and posted about it) but Tubesock doesn't do any research into this so throws it out as a tinfoil for no reason.

On October 03 2019 06:58 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 06:53 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 06:23 Tubesock wrote:
I don’t think GB is scum.

It is completely rational and logical to be skeptical of HF’s claim. I mean he’s HF. Plus, 2 blue roles in a 9 player game seems pretty unbalanced. Not impossible, but I think unlikely. If HF were mafia, he 100% would make some breadcrumb that’s unquestionable like this.

But would mafia!HF carry the kp N2? And why would mafiaHF prolong the game by voting Boxerfred? I don’t see mafia!HF doing that. So, I think this is town!HF.


1) Yes, especially after he claimed blue during night.

2) To gain towncred


He claims blue truthfully and falsely fairly often at night.

It could be for towncred, but I think he had plenty already and I don’t think it’s worth not killing 2 people with. Unless Shockeyy is mafia. Which I am warm too. If I move from Vivax it’ll be to Shockeyy.

On October 03 2019 07:04 Tubesock wrote:
Ok, but what do you think of Vivax?

##Unvote
##Vote: Shockeyy



Votes shockey for about 2.5 seconds before switching to vivax with nobody after shockey posted nothing but conspiracy.

On October 03 2019 07:41 Tubesock wrote:
Vivax is a better lynch.





Really very lacking, unexplained reads. The one explanation that is provided is omgus and shockey flips from town to mafia to town and back to mafia for no reasoning at one point. Tubesock's play this game can be summarised as textbook of what reads not to make as mafia. Omgus reads, a full on lurker scum list, why is this player not dead, not pushing game forward so mafia.

I do not think any read he has had this entire game is anything other than surface level drivel.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 22:32 GMT
#1825
I'll check shockey's tube reads next
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 22:44 GMT
#1827
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 28 2019 23:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Good night since it’s night phase. I think copcake or tube are mafia, change my mind.


First mention of tube, directly after I sub in. Has not mentioned him for the entirety of the first cycle and he thinks he's mafia.

On September 29 2019 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 04:11 CopCake wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You essentially ignored Branches question, I’m positive you couldn’t have missed it unless it was done on purpose and you actually have no reason and are trying to save your mafia partner?!?


So tell me, now that you saw that Ewya flipped town, am I still mafia?


Idk? It’s 50/50. You’re the scummiest so far in my reads however. Between you and Tube


There is no reasoning in either of these posts as to WHY tube is mafia.

On September 29 2019 04:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
At least I’m posting? Lol... Boxer and Tube haven’t posted. And I’ve played on mafia team before with boxer and that’s his style as mafia. The no kill tonight was odd in general, problably afk, so I can assume that part of the mafia team is within the people that didn’t vote the first day.


Turns out it's also just a lurker lynch.

I haven't been caught up to the game as much, but I'm sure you are, and if we want to test this theory that you're not mafia or I'm not mafia, I'll sheep your second opinion. I already told you who my next two guesses are in mafia, Tube/Boxer, and I've given my reasons for them, but after remembering the early game, I think about GB's switch to Branch.


The appeal post to cop where he says his reads are tube/boxer and he'd lynch them but conveniently slips in about gb's switch to branch.

On September 30 2019 23:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 23:25 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 30 2019 23:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 30 2019 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
Just so you know, it's against the rules to talk about your coach in the thread so you're basically confirmed town. Don't waste a vote on me, especially if you like the content I've produced? I don't know who I'm supposed to be yelling at to lynch because I've been pretty vocal about lynching gb until his return.


How is he confirmed town, we all knew he was getting a coach, he asked for it lol. I would expect mafia to be able to get a coach too, why just town?

Hey! it just occured to me, that you havent shared a scum read on anyone for a long long time. Whos your top scumread right now?


I'd say Tube, then Boxer then CopCake


Same list for 100% of the game so far.

On October 01 2019 00:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But in all honesty, lets say boxer doesn't flip, who does that lead us too? I mean it doesn't change my read on Tubesock, I personally think he's the scummiest out of everyone since he's been the only active one.

As I said yesterday:

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

FreezingFoot (2): Holyflare, Tubesock
Boxerfred(1): Tubesock, Vivax
ShoCkeyy(1): CopCake
Tubesock (0): Vivax
Branch.AUT (0): Holyflare
CopCake (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Branch.AUT, Boxerfred, Shockeyy, FreezingFoot

FreezingFoot is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Sep 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



If you exclude Branch and I from the not voting list, it leaves you Boxer + Freezing, Tube jumps on the Freezing train because he knows that may never go off with how others are targeting people such as myself. Copcake is just chasing after me because they hate me no matter what and would just rather see me lynched. Not a good townie, but understandable.


More reasons for tube to be mafia.

On October 01 2019 12:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm lynching GB next. Dude is playing ya'll. Only reason GB would of switched to boxer like that last minute is knowing that boxer was town, and knowing I'm an easy lynch for the following day.

On October 01 2019 12:17 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It has to be Tubesock and GB in a team. The third is between Vivax, Cop Branch or HF. But at this point, I highly doubt its HF or Vivax. So I'm left with Branch and Cop. We'll see once the night is over


Diverts to GB being mafia. The bad part here is that he says GB is mafia for not voting him but doesn't put any meat behind this read. GB said he was following my plan so what is different here that made Shockey think GB wasn't gonna follow it? (Could be baseless point depending on when GB said fuck the plan, I remember it was fairly early after the lynch).

On October 02 2019 04:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So Tube and GB are team together? like I called earlier? Bahahahah.... I'm starting to think the team is Tube/GB/Cop easy.


Does he really believe in 3 mafia? He seems to switch between 2 or 3 depending on what fits his needs.

On October 02 2019 06:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 06:12 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
We kill tubesock. Me being saved and the fact we lynched bf means we have a free lynch today. You will see he is mafia or a wandering towny. If he is town GB is one million % mafia.


I give up trying to reason with you, I'll just play the game and lynch mafia, then.


Vote TubeSock then. I know I am.


vote tube

On October 02 2019 10:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 10:08 Tubesock wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:52 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:46 Tubesock wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:41 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:36 Tubesock wrote:
On October 02 2019 08:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 08:53 CopCake wrote:
The idea of a mafia not killing and blocking themselves with no idea if there is a tracker... is insane.



I also think that HF has been absurd, but it’s hard to believe he is mafia.

But it’s straightforward, if tubesock flips town we Lynch HF


No way man. HF is town, I really doubt he could orchestrate that crumb as mafia.


So, you’re saying you definitely visited me?


I believe I’m unknowing wanderer or whatever it’s called.


Hahahaha no way you can think that, Tube. If you’re VT and HF doesn’t claim right away you just vote him 100%


I can’t think that?

Haha well I guess we will find out pretty soon won’t we?


It's not that soon, we still have a full day to figure something out. Why Vivax Tube? Your filter doesn't really state why you think Vivax is scum.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 00:51 Tubesock wrote:
I’m here for a little bit.

I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia.

As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives?


This is a post I looked up to because you and Vivax both said the same thing about CopCake misreading, and making fake narratives. To me it seems like you consistently thought Vivax was town until recent? Why the change?


What the fuck is this post. Does this look like how someone talks to someone he has scum read 100% of the game? He looked up to a post tube and vivax made but... he scum read tube n1.......


On October 03 2019 07:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:25 CopCake wrote:
On October 02 2019 02:17 Tubesock wrote:
My hesitation on Shockeyy is why didn’t he vote Boxerfred to save himself? He was dying until GB swapped, but could have just voted Boxer and not been in much danger.

I don’t think mafia would do that. Otherwise I disagree with everything he’s posted after D1.


But that would only mean that GB is mafia and tried to save Shockey.

Thing he has done in the past btw.


Tube makes a great point here

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 04:26 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 04:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So Tube and GB are team together? like I called earlier? Bahahahah.... I'm starting to think the team is Tube/GB/Cop easy.


YES SHOCKEY
WE ARE MAFIA TOGETHER
TUBESOCK VISITED ME N1 SO WE COULD HAVE A CUP OF TEA AND SHRIMP FLAVORED NOODLES AND LAUGH IN OUR COMFORTABLE MAFIA HOMES


If I want to believe tubes VT claim, then I'd replace Tubesock being his team mate here, and replace with the possible godfather role GB could be.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:54 Tubesock wrote:
I’m back.

I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk.

So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play.


Tube states that HF is possible mafia, and this is where it gets interesting since HF just mentioned he didn't actually track Tube, he was only setting up Tube to get lynched.

I totally can see an HF/GB mafia team.



tube vanishes from his scum list just because he claimed VT.........................................................................................................


He's been confirmed, that's why I keep jumping around different partners for him, and why I had my vote on tubesock, but as of late, I don't think Tube is mafia. I gave my reasoning on that already.



?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

On October 03 2019 12:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
FF && Cop || Tube.

Also sorry dude, I'm actually on east coast, but currently in the west coast


TUBE IS BACK ON THE LIST?????????????

On October 04 2019 02:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 02:13 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:10 Vivax wrote:
That said, seems to fit into the picture that Tube being considered half dead, GB started bussing him, they push me both at the same time for reasons that would actually make sense if I weren't so busy lately.


You guys got it! I Mafia with tube
Hey tube, check our qt, I’m conceding!


Is the real? :D


believes gb conceded with tube??????



what the fuck

the last few posts of this filter are serious wtf material with read progression
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 22:47 GMT
#1828
He has scum read tube for 100% of the game.

Then at one post he says he looked up to Tube/Vivax on D1 because they went after copcake posts. BUT N1 IS WHERE SHOCKEY SCUM READ TUBE. This looked like the most forced interaction post I have ever seen.

Then last cycle he miraculously drops this Tube 100% all game scum read just because tube claimed VT. Says he doesn't scum read tube, then puts tube back on the scum list out of the blue with absolutely NOTHING in between that he says to alter his opinion otherwise.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 23:02 GMT
#1830
sorry to hear

hope you feel better
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2019 23:03 GMT
#1831
if you need someone to talk to feel free to send me a pm
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2019 02:12 GMT
#1833
feel kind of shitty even pushing him now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2019 19:12 GMT
#1839
Meh feel free to vote me if you want to end the game early. Not particularly in the mood to push a guy who's in a struggle or two lurkers that don't do anything.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2019 19:13 GMT
#1840
Glad to hear everything ok though!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2019 20:53 GMT
#1843
Don't really care. Either tube is mafia or he just afks and leaves questions unanswered that make him look bad if answered. I choose to believe he's not bad and is mafia.

Shockey makes sense with their association reads (last page) but it's whatever. Wouldn't be mad if it's vivax/tube. My fault if it is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2019 20:54 GMT
#1844
Thanks for making my last game enjoyable. Soz gb, I'll always lynch you :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2019 21:13 GMT
#1847
Nah, it definitely is. Not much is gonna change here. Nobody really talks about cases or points anymore and we end up with 3 lurkers who you can't determine which one is mafia because who knows. I even spent like the last page filter diving and coming up with stuff and what has happened since then? Nothing.

I don't blame any of you, life is busy stuff and you're all cool people but it's not fun to invest so much of your time into something just to have people not reciprocate and play the game with you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2019 11:19 GMT
#1856
Even the hosts have given up lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2019 13:41 GMT
#1860
Still not mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2019 13:42 GMT
#1862
Yo I unvoted
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