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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 28 2019 11:19 GMT
#13
/in

roll me town pls
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 01 2019 22:35 GMT
#84
feels good to roll VaNiLlA ToWnIe my fellow non robot mafia players, yes.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 01 2019 22:38 GMT
#85
On July 02 2019 02:38 Pandain wrote:
I'm mafia

AMA


how does it feel to be a part of the scum that is ruining our little town?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 01 2019 22:38 GMT
#87
On July 02 2019 03:22 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 03:16 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 03:11 Trfel wrote:
On July 02 2019 03:07 Trfel wrote:
On July 02 2019 02:38 Pandain wrote:
I'm mafia

AMA
Weren't you one of the people who got mad at me and scumread me for doing the same thing a few games ago?
Never mind I'm confusing you with someone else. Carry on

I think Eversince is town, discuss?


Why do you think I'm town?
Your posts feel so carefree and relaxed and comfortable, which is the complete opposite of your last game as mafia, which felt very rigid and forced. Plus, instead of relying on losing the wifi hotspot and the pre-game excuse, you seem to have redoubled your efforts to engage in the game and be involved. To me that makes a decent townread


I don’t like this post. ick
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 01 2019 22:50 GMT
#90
On July 02 2019 07:43 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 07:38 Conversion wrote:
On July 02 2019 03:22 Trfel wrote:
On July 02 2019 03:16 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 03:11 Trfel wrote:
On July 02 2019 03:07 Trfel wrote:
On July 02 2019 02:38 Pandain wrote:
I'm mafia

AMA
Weren't you one of the people who got mad at me and scumread me for doing the same thing a few games ago?
Never mind I'm confusing you with someone else. Carry on

I think Eversince is town, discuss?


Why do you think I'm town?
Your posts feel so carefree and relaxed and comfortable, which is the complete opposite of your last game as mafia, which felt very rigid and forced. Plus, instead of relying on losing the wifi hotspot and the pre-game excuse, you seem to have redoubled your efforts to engage in the game and be involved. To me that makes a decent townread


I don’t like this post. ick
Care to say why?


too feel good-y for my condensed ball of rage and hatred

also 4 year old meta seems like a reach to have a swing towards a read in any direction that early instead of something to pocket and observe for late

Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 09:30 GMT
#194
On July 02 2019 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi conversion, seems like we share a lot of things and feelings. Are you me?


yes I will hereby be referenced as raynversion

On July 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk i am letting this go atm. You have given your pov and it's up to me to decide if i think you're telling the truth or not. I am interested in why Pandain apparently thinks the same as i do about ES' play so far yet he somehow reads you town for just making a read (not even agreeing with it) he wouldn't even ever make in the first place (i assume that meant as town unless he wants to call himself mafia straight up).


good post
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 09:31 GMT
#195
eversince has 4 pages of nothing from her filter. I guess she wants to lynch me for being mediocre, but wants to give a free pass to Grack cuz “meta”?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 09:40 GMT
#199
On July 02 2019 18:34 Jockmcplop wrote:
Conversion what do you think of #191?
Its a bit startling to me the absolute similarity in what trfel has done in those two games so early on, down to the wording. Can we solve the whole game from one post?


I’ll do a deeper check once I’m home, but I personally don’t like meta checks so early. although what you pointed out looked ok

I kinda want to lynch Grack atm
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 09:49 GMT
#203
yeah actually maybe I take my Grack read back iirc I can never read him correctly

it’s 5:49 am here I’m going to get some coffee and read some shit after I drop someone off at the airport
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 11:55 GMT
#205
I mean a lot of your points are just "meh let's see what people do in the day, I quite don't like certain things they are saying," except Trfel who you have a soul town read on for some reason, and me who you think is scum even if I'm back and actually saying things in the thread

On July 02 2019 13:16 Eversince wrote:
I don't like Pandain's weird Truffle town read. It would be fine but putting Truffles town and me null at that early was just weird. I get why he says I'd be 'forced' to be active but at least I'm trying. I'm very obvious to just ask if you want me to explain anything. So giving Truffles a town read and nulling me when I am around is just.. off.

Conversion entrance seemed bleh. But I see what he was saying now. Using 4 year meta read is kind of bad. But sadly, I don't play as much anymore. Conv pointing it out, giving a decent reason for it, not commenting on the rest of game.. That seems questionable to me. There wasn't much content (still not) but I'll decide on that when I see how he actually plays!


On July 02 2019 13:20 Eversince wrote:
To clarify Pandain problem: If you give Truffles town read there and someone your not sure about is known to be active, why not just try to get a better read on them? The fact he didn't bother to interact is bigger issue to me I think.

I don't want to spend all of day 1 tunneled on Pandain though. What are your thoughts?


On July 02 2019 13:26 Eversince wrote:
I think Grack is just being usual Grack again.

Rayn finding it weird Truffles would read me t!ES is fine for prior reasons. I think they are wrong though.


On July 02 2019 16:46 Eversince wrote:
Bleh Pand seems to me the same as last game. I don't understand his logic and I'm 'ok' with his reasons for Truffles/ES read now, it took me a long time to get there. I'm not vesting into Pand real hard because last game I spent the entire time thinking he was mafia, he turned up town. I think there could be mafia motivation behind the vote on me. I'll have to think on that. I'm real ditsy, easy to misunderstand, and don't pick up on people real fast. But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here?



I also find it quite suspicious that you're overly defending Grack's play in that he'll come in later and play the game (and basically writing him off your d1 lynch list), but you're applying the opposite logic on me and calling me scum for it.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 11:56 GMT
#206
in one way you could be a town trying to "drive the game" and getting people to play-- in another direction you're mafia trying to scatter focus away and onto random things and hoping that people will just refocus you on your "Conversion is mafia" thing that you're doing. I'm more inclined to believe the latter at this point considering I don't get strong town vibes from you.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 13:59 GMT
#212
On July 02 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 20:56 Conversion wrote:
in one way you could be a town trying to "drive the game" and getting people to play-- in another direction you're mafia trying to scatter focus away and onto random things and hoping that people will just refocus you on your "Conversion is mafia" thing that you're doing. I'm more inclined to believe the latter at this point considering I don't get strong town vibes from you.

can you elaborate more on this?


sure. I normally find it a very town thing when people consider their options but try to realign their focus onto one person. I think the problem (aside from the fact that I find her filter rather rigid and weird to begin with) lies in the fact that she's commending herself for not tunneling on certain people (like she did last game), throwing out a bunch of lukewarm reads, and then sort of just hard-defending her stance out of nowhere.

On July 02 2019 03:49 Eversince wrote:
Ack! I don't want to fight with you this whole game Pand again. I'm go with my instincts! Don't claim scum or I'm be super tunneled again.


She doesn't want to tunnel on Pandain, trying to refocus her game.

On July 02 2019 11:31 Eversince wrote:
Yeah ok.

Pandain giving Truffles a townread and saying I didn't do anything is just trash! But at least he asnwer me.
Conversion is fine for doubting it. He's not dirving an agenda but just doesn't believe, that's ok I think.
Truffles is so town it hurts! Why are you guys skeptical on him?

I'll be here! who wants to talk?


reads Pandain and me, that's fine

On July 02 2019 13:16 Eversince wrote:
I don't like Pandain's weird Truffle town read. It would be fine but putting Truffles town and me null at that early was just weird. I get why he says I'd be 'forced' to be active but at least I'm trying. I'm very obvious to just ask if you want me to explain anything. So giving Truffles a town read and nulling me when I am around is just.. off.

Conversion entrance seemed bleh. But I see what he was saying now. Using 4 year meta read is kind of bad. But sadly, I don't play as much anymore. Conv pointing it out, giving a decent reason for it, not commenting on the rest of game.. That seems questionable to me. There wasn't much content (still not) but I'll decide on that when I see how he actually plays!


Doesn't like Pandain, she's seeing a good thing in my call out, sort of posturing to be like "Wow Conversion is so mafia it hurts" here

On July 02 2019 13:25 Eversince wrote:
Actually thinking on that Conversion is really kind of bleh. Maby it's time issue. Coming in, throwing an easy valid point, and fucking right back off is scary to me.


The switch happens here

On July 02 2019 16:46 Eversince wrote:
Bleh Pand seems to me the same as last game. I don't understand his logic and I'm 'ok' with his reasons for Truffles/ES read now, it took me a long time to get there. I'm not vesting into Pand real hard because last game I spent the entire time thinking he was mafia, he turned up town. I think there could be mafia motivation behind the vote on me. I'll have to think on that. I'm real ditsy, easy to misunderstand, and don't pick up on people real fast. But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here?



Again, another shot at Pandain.

On July 02 2019 17:33 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 17:25 Holyflare wrote:
You seem the same as last game tone wise but your content is completely lacking. You've essentially defended pretty much everyone when they were called mafia saying "Where's their agenda?" which I don't like at all sooo at the moment you're quite low down on my scum list.

Trfel seems like a robot. I like all his content but absolutely feel like he's playing how he says he plays as mafia (although he seems to not agree (shocking)).

Jock looks fine.

Rayn is here I guess.

Grack/conversion obviously look mediocre.

Nothing really unique to add. Disappointed nobody even quoted my pandain post, I thought it was quite good.


I'm trying to get people talking with agenda stuff. I want people to explain thoughts. Sad that makes me scum !

I like Truffles posting a lot, so care to talk on that? I have a heavy town read on him right now.

I'm actively trying not to focus on Pand before repeat of last game happens !



Now she's trying to do this "I'm so town" post here which really bothers me. Why does it matter if she's trying to get people to talk about agenda. Why does it matter that people talk about her town read? It's her town read, why should she care about it? She also reiterates that she's trying not to focus on Pandain, but she kind of spent posts thinking about Pandain.

I just find it weird when someone is that self-aware as their play when they are town, but the only real conclusion they have is that they want to lynch me because I made a couple of posts and fucked off.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 14:42 GMT
#222
I like you and jock so far, most likely won't lynch into that.

HF mediocre

would like to lynch into es/trfel/pandain probably at this moment.

I gotta head out to work right now-- I'll give more insightful reads if needed
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 18:46 GMT
#379
On July 03 2019 00:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2019 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You, Jock, need to remember omgus isn't actually omgus if you have reasons for why the other person's shit is shit. I haven't seen you use omgus out of context but i have seen it many many times. Just because someone called you mafia doesn't make it invalid to make a case on them based on them calling you mafia (since mafia will anyways call townies mafia based on bs reasoning).

Do you think ES is town? Why?


I'm null on ES (see above). I'm open minded.

What I'm saying about conversion is that he would have made that case regardless of whether or not he thought ES was being scummy, because he does every time he's accused of being mafia. So when I'm judging whether or not he's making good points, that is a factor in my judgement.

I'm not saying 'Its OMGUS ignore him'.

I also happen to disagree with him about his general commentary on ES's play so far, although I'm interested in ES assuming that we should townread her and why we shouldn't talk about her trfel townread.

I just don't think that particular case is enough for me to scumread ES.


I'm not quite sure where you're getting this "Conversion only makes OMGUS cases" meta from-- I've played one game with you.

Also, I never made OMGUS cases as mafia last game either, so your meta doesn't fit. I have no problems with you disagreeing with my case, but don't make up shit about my play.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2019 20:04 GMT
#397
why am I scummy all of the sudden for scumreading you and playing the game? I really don't like your string of latest posts at all.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 14:06 GMT
#674
Is Pandain mafia, or is he just one of those other players that just shoots off posts without realizing how bad he sounds?

What is this read progression on me when I haven't even posted..

On July 03 2019 15:59 Pandain wrote:
Okay, as long as Eywa's explanation for the above doesn't suck (but if it does, this completely changes)

Strong town reads: Rayn, Eywa
Pretty likely town: Jock

Have no idea why people are town reading Conversion. The guy has done nothing really substantial.

For ES, I'm not sure. Honestly I started skipping alot of her posts. A lot of her reasoning is ..not good, but I don't think either of Rayn's or HF's points are good.

Grack is actually a great town player but he's still done nothing meaningful so there's that.

For me honestly, I want to vote between Conversion, Grack, and Trfel.


Wants to lynch Conversion, Grack, or Trfel

On July 03 2019 16:49 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 16:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 03 2019 15:59 Pandain wrote:

For me honestly, I want to vote between Conversion, Grack, and Trfel.


I haven't properly looked into any of these three yet. I had a slight town read on conversion when made the post on ES (even though I disagreed) because of his meta and the aggressive way he defended himself.

I'll take a closer look at all three today and let you know what I think though. It might take me a while to get this done because I'm at work.


Yeah decent point. I'll say Conv. is null to slightly town. To me he's mostly null.


Well, actually he's null to slightly town. Maybe more null, but still wants to lynch me?

On July 03 2019 20:22 Pandain wrote:
I defend people all the time because they're null at best. Not because I have a strong or even mediocore townread on them.


He justifies defending HF because he's null, but wants to lynch me even if I'm null?

On July 03 2019 22:09 Pandain wrote:
I have extremely strong townreads on Jock, ES, Rayn, and Eywa.

Meaning I think the last two scum are between Conv, Trfell, HF, and Grack.

I actually have a very slight town read on HF too.


Now I'm back to being scummy

On July 03 2019 22:15 Pandain wrote:
Briefly skimming Trfel's last town games and previous two mafia games (albeit admittedly 3-4 years ago), they seem more similar to his town games.

His posts seem genuine and he's making some good points.

I think the last two scum are Conversion and Grack. Maybe HF.


Oh here we go, I'm scum now.

???
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 14:15 GMT
#680
Eversince has still made no case against me really besides saying that my entrance post sucks, hasn't progressed her read on me, and is more than happy to spam up the thread on why Eywa/Conversion is terrible instead of trying to case us and swing votes somewhere else.

She also horribly misread my post-- the big thing (that is STILL prevalent in her filter) on why she's mafia is that she doesn't do anything townie. She doesn't push for her mafia reads, she wants to talk about her townreads, and is just really incessantly shouting and not providing much content. She's mentioned me only THIRTEEN times in her 9 page filter. For someone who seems pretty damn adamant on catching Scumversion, she doesn't seem to want to actually try and convince people, and lament on how she "tried so hard" on trying to say something about me.

She doesn't pursue any other avenues, but wants to just tell the world how she's tried so hard but is going to be lynched anyways. That's not town play.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 14:16 GMT
#683
Also I find it incredibly disingenuous to tell me when I have done nothing. You can disagree with me, as Jock did, and tell me I'm null-ish based on that. To tell me I haven't done shit because I don't spam like the rest of you fools is annoying as fuck.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 18:22 GMT
#754
On July 04 2019 02:01 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 01:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
This is the thing hf every time you begin to even look a little bit town you say something like this:

He didn't even realise this was still a point for him until someone pointed it out again yet I was still mafia to him before that.


I have no idea why you would think that's true. It isn't at all. I have brought up the eywa thing consistently over the last few pages. You're literally just making this shit up out of nowhere.


It's just a misunderstanding. HF thinks from your post saying that "oh my point still stands!" that you thought it had been negated earlier. Of course you never thought it was negated, but HF didn't know/think that.

Did you see my post on Conf? Given that he can be extremely aggressive as mafia, what do you think of his play so far?


Can you like tunnel off me?

1) No one is townreading me for being aggressive— not sure if you’re willfully being this obtuse or not

2) I haven’t even been that aggressive this game

3) I don’t want to talk to you about your points just like you don’t want to talk to me about my points, so stop telling the thread I’m being useless or aggressive when I’m not

Either address my points directly and talk to me DIRECTLY or stop talking around me and trying to misconstrue my play. Shady as hell.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 18:22 GMT
#756
The only point you address me directly was the one post I made about you, and you keep saying I did nothing.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 18:52 GMT
#778
On July 04 2019 03:44 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them.


I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read.


Your points on me:

1) Entrance bad
2) I don’t like him

You haven’t evolved your read on me or reinforced it as I posted more. Until you start playing the game instead of yelling about how no one wants to listen to you, my vote stays on you.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 18:57 GMT
#785
On July 04 2019 03:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah I was bad.

Trfel looks fine.

I'm up for burying Conversion though.


Funny, because I’m up for voting you and Pandain for being anti town players randomly and opportunistically shading me without addressing me/making a case for why I’m mafia
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 18:59 GMT
#786
I have one person in Pandain telling people I’m being “aggressive” and “not doing anything” and he can’t even bother to read a 2 page filter.

I have another person in Grack making trash tier posts, and all of a sudden wanting to lynch me

There’s no way either of you are town with these garbage tier plays, is there?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 19:04 GMT
#791
On July 04 2019 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 03:59 Conversion wrote:
I have one person in Pandain telling people I’m being “aggressive” and “not doing anything” and he can’t even bother to read a 2 page filter.

I have another person in Grack making trash tier posts, and all of a sudden wanting to lynch me

There’s no way either of you are town with these garbage tier plays, is there?


You're not up for lynch and neither are any of them (apart from kind of grack). Would you like to make a case on them?


I’m not threatened at all, it’s just frustrating. I posted out one thing from Pandain.

I just got off my last shift— going to go have a drink before I go back home and do anything not on my phone.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 19:47 GMT
#848
gg all!
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 09 2019 19:37 GMT
#1774
well played Rayn and Eversince

fuck you Trfel for hammering me for no reason and not even addressing me at any point in the game, fuck you Jock for telling people I'm playing pissy when I wasn't, fuck you Grack for not even talking to me and calling me scum with 1 hr left to lynch, and finally a big ole fuck you to mafia MVP Pandain for lynching me for being null and then shooting Grack who you were colluding with until EoD1 to shenanigan onto me

Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 09 2019 19:43 GMT
#1777
On July 10 2019 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2019 04:37 Conversion wrote:
well played Rayn and Eversince

fuck you Trfel for hammering me for no reason and not even addressing me at any point in the game, fuck you Jock for telling people I'm playing pissy when I wasn't, fuck you Grack for not even talking to me and calling me scum with 1 hr left to lynch, and finally a big ole fuck you to mafia MVP Pandain for lynching me for being null and then shooting Grack who you were colluding with until EoD1 to shenanigan onto me


<3


and thanks FF and Blazinghand for hosting! I don't think the roles were as shit as you think it is. maybe a bit too swingy, but really you can't blame your setup on how this game rolled. It could have swung very hard into a town victory, but I don't think the set up dictated how the game turned out
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