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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
June 24 2019 14:47 GMT
#224
On June 24 2019 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2019 23:03 Shapelog wrote:
I find it odd how technical and misconstruing he was towards Eversince. I dont get how you someone can read the thread at that time and genuinely post the quoted post above from trfel.

Let's say Shapelog is correct and this is actually true and Trfel is mafia. Trfel as mafia clearly knows this as well right? He has to since he is making a bullshit case he knows is incorrect. Why does Trfel make that case in the first place? Like a case that's based on pure lying and misconstruing. It doesn't make any sense at all because you're just... well instantly caught.

I'm not saying it makes complete sense to me (otherwise my vote would already be on him). I just find his posting towards Eversince concerning given the two occasions so early in day 1. I want to see where is at right now with eversince.

I will admit reading trfel gives me pause because I know how flaky he can be as town. The only reason I town read him in the game we played early on was because I was mafia and wanted to look good if he got lynched. I need to read a scum game of his for comparison come to think of it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
June 24 2019 14:54 GMT
#226
On June 24 2019 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I actually townread everyone in the game more or less other than Alakaslam, Grackaroni, Eywa and shapelog. I jsut came across a post of shapelog from his last town game which makes me think his post on Trfel is maybe more likely to come from mafia perspective. Here is the post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:
Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT.

For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part.
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light.

Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1.

However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either.

But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm.

I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes.

Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now.

More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean

I think the above post shows that his thinking of why people post the stuff they do from town/mafia perspective should go wayyyy deeper than the "i dont get it so he is mafia" post on trfel.

Dear God THAT game

Correctly nail scum day 1. Then gets told I bus 100% of the time as scum and get auto lynched day 2

At least I think it was that game. My memory fails me in my young age.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
June 24 2019 15:12 GMT
#234
Skimmed through a game where trfel is scum. It's a bit old time wise, but he is much more confident in posting then here (which is the opposite of what I would expect)

Hmm,

Makes me feel a little better, but I still want to see where he is currently is on Eversince.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
June 24 2019 15:14 GMT
#236
On June 25 2019 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like that post is literally you hard defending mafia Calix.

Oh!

So not that game...

Well what can I say? Keep your friends close and enemies closer, It was all apart of my plan that game.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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