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On June 27 2019 15:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 15:31 Eversince wrote:On June 27 2019 15:24 Trfel wrote:On June 27 2019 15:17 Eversince wrote:On June 27 2019 15:14 Trfel wrote:I still can't completely discount the possibility of KelsierSC and Pandain being mafia together though? On June 26 2019 04:28 Pandain wrote:
I would rather lynch rayn than slam. In the time approaching End of Day, this is the first time that Pandain pushes anyone other than KelsierSC. Note the time, two minutes to End of Day. There's no time to try pushing Shapelog or one of the other wagons. Given the vote count before Pandain's vote switch to raynpelikoneet, as follows:
vote count day 1 Alakaslam: (3) eversince, holyflare, Trfel Shapelog: (2) raynpelikoneet, grackaroni grackaroni Eversince: (0) grackaroni, eywa-KelsierSC: (2) Pandain, Jockmcplop, jockmcplop eversince pandain Grackaroni: (0) Holyflare Jockmcplop PandainRaynpelikoneet: (1) Holyflare eywa- eywa- holyflarePandain: (0) Eywa-Not Voting:Alakaslam Shapelog KelsierSC
Who could Pandain vote for, if he's trying to save Alakaslam at all costs? Voting for Shapelog would put Shapelog at three votes, and Alakaslam would still be lynched as he was at three votes first. Voting for raynpelikoneet only puts him at two votes, but there's a chance that he could get Holyflare to switch votes, which would give the raynpelikoneet wagon the best chance of saving Alakaslam. And there wasn't time to try pushing both raynpelikoneet and Shapelog. Kels and Shape team could move votes. They can't move together without outing themselves. Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by this? KelsierSC and Shapelog were presumably MIA and couldn't vote? m!Pand switches off Slam, m!Kels pulls off Slam. Your entire team just got dedicated to moving the lynch off Slam. Town lynches one of you. Even with a town on the wagon, hard to put the rest together? (I'm bad at analisis so excuse me if I come off at short, please I don't mean too.) the thing imo is that there is no information to be gained from a town lynch on D1. Literally. Whoever claims otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. Had town lynched let's say me, they cannot still know if my reads are good or not (usually the reads are not believed because if they were why would you lynch me in the first place if my reads are good?). Noone can know if the people who switched are town or mafia and if they can explain their motivation reasonably, you have no way telling if they were jsut wrong or if they are mafia. TLDR; it doesn't really matter if your team dedicates onto a town lynch D1, especially since the game is 8v3 which makes it D3 lylo. It's better to just keep town in the dark (aka lynch townies) that to try get credit bussing your teammates because otherwise you might get caught some other day.
Yes but assuming you have a bunch of mia scum friends suddenly show up to move there vote and then town catches you? You're fucked.
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Yeah but that wouldn't change the fact the vote was stupid close. If it went into a landslide because 3 people jumped off last second, killed some town, then one of those 3 get caught later. Highly suspicious in my book. Or am I really dense?
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If that's at me my whole argument is Kels/Pand can't be mafia together like you said  .
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While we are around anything you want to talk about? I'm free for a while.
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On June 27 2019 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 14:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My biggest problem with Eywa is that she wants to lynch me when she thinks i have white knighted Kelsier (aka Kelsier is town in her opinion -- and that's literally one of her biggest reasons FOR thinking i am mafia). She has also "poe'd" the game to "rayn/shapelog/kelsier has 2 mafia in them". Problem is that we can probably all agree i can't be mafia with Shapelog in any world.
So why does she want to lynch me again since i am not mafia with any player in her poe?
Eywa is just full of shit. any comments on this?
Yes. Eywa trying to pick any hint of a bone to base a read on. Then she tries to kill people with it (or just jump on wagons like she did for yourself D1). She holds onto those easy reads and sorrily she picked me and you. We'll just say shut the hell up lady! Here is why!
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On June 27 2019 06:15 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 06:04 Eywa- wrote:
What is this narrative? 2 players who happen to be in the POE are said to have been AFK and did not submit a night kill? There's no way someone replaces in AND forgets to submit a night kill... He would certainly be told by the mod upon entry.
*sigh*
Mass claiming is bad today, if Grackaroni turns out to be mafia, we just lynch him closer to LyLo.
Eversince shading me while calling me town is really awful. Almost seems like he's trying to line up my lynch while taking no responsibility. How is me not liking you scum reading me or Rayn, no reason, me setting you up for lynch? Yes. I think it's weak. I asked you about it. Weak. Now say more to continue to point out "I don't like this", and you still say it's wierd. Try so say I'm lynching you if I'm lynching you. I've flopped around a few times because mostly: I might have limited internet in a few hours now. Pand/Kels/Shape all look like strong options. Between you someone if not two have to be town. Me trying to decide does not make me mafia. You saying I'm shadowing you when I do might.
Like this post. I try to explain my read. Nothing for a reasponce but 'this makes you mafia?;
I was trying to townread Eywa before her relentless push of me never ended.
If I'm not obvious town to anyone yet freakin' talk to me. I've made a serious effort to be about.
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On June 27 2019 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jesus slam, please move the conversation to community thread already....
I'm not even going to respond to him here. I recommend you do the same.
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It was a stone toss between all the lynches. Shape developed because you. Grack geveloped because of the doc claim. Kels was close because he had really odd looking post. HF throwing out Slam and me/Truffles piling onto that. Basic end of D1.
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Going to assume HF hasn't caught up the thread yet. So I will wait on him.
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On June 27 2019 16:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 16:31 Eversince wrote:
Going to assume HF hasn't caught up the thread yet. So I will wait on him. I'm fully caught up, why?
I didn't want to rush you. Take me freaking days to read and digest 10-15+ pages.
Thoughts on Eywa?
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On June 27 2019 16:38 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 16:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said anything about lynching Shapelog last night phase but this probably makes you look even more townie than before unless for some magical reason both of shapelog / kelsier are town. OK you're right you wanted a vigi to kill shapelog. I get the difference, but for me that idea works just as well using a lynch on shapelog (given that we have mucho time now to do what we want and get a nice solid PoE going).
Assuming we have vig, Kill on Shape would of dropped two mafia. So I get it.
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On June 27 2019 16:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 16:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
did you read what i wrote about pandain/kelsier and pandain/eywa?
do you agree it's extremely unlike anyone else is scum (aside from shapelog and me -- because even if you think i am scum you should still see my point). I can't find and don't know what your pandain/eywa thing is other than the eywa poe point but I think eywa is the kind of person that just doesn't care so much about logic like that. Pandain/kelsier is what I just talked about so yeah.
Look back about 4? pages. Me and Rayn talked and I talked real heavy on Eywa/Pandain right before,
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Sorry, not to answer for him. But easy so I mentioned it.
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Ok, since my internet sucks wildly.ran into this problem once already.. I'll put a vote done now. I'm totally fine with Shape lynch,
##vote Shapelog
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On June 27 2019 16:43 Holyflare wrote:I think both shape and kelsier are town 
Ok, who then?
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Og goodness I'm I going to have to continue to waffle Pand? Give me some reasons becuase I'm so over wasting time on it. Shape/Koshi/Eywa/Pand can't all be scum!
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Also my post explains exact;y why I had problems with it.
I went into work last night, so forewarned everyone: I'm stupid tired and probably will sleep soon.
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To say it was opportunistic to vote Slam is wrong to. I literally came into Thread with 45 mins left. Tried to catchup and engage people. Votes are really close at this point. m!ES never kills her scumbuddy here. I just try to sway the vote instead. I very obviously wasn't killing Rayn. And my thoughts about it are posted every where in thread.I thought Slam had absolutely no content. HF wanted a happy lynch. I was very happy lynching Slam.
To try to help you understand.
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I'm going back to re-read the last 6 pages and see what I can get from there. I really breezed them when I got home.
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EPT
