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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:25 GMT
#1310
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
going to point out that I also viewed HF town at that point, and I guess you were sort of internally consistent in that you called me scum (IIRC?) for calling HF confirmed town there

you dont have that much history with HF and you're dumb.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:27 GMT
#1312
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
So at that point ruxxar should also not have been totally confident that HF and Jock are town? Like why extend this suspicion to every person who called HF & jock town EXCEPT ruxxar?

because none of the players in this game are the same person. different people saying same things don't mean same alignment because they are different people. this is ofc extremely hard to understand for dumb people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:29 GMT
#1316
On May 21 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Currently Voting for VE. Although I may be seeing ghosts so I need to think on it a bit / re read his filter.

yes you really should re-consider.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:38 GMT
#1325
On May 21 2019 21:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
going to point out that I also viewed HF town at that point, and I guess you were sort of internally consistent in that you called me scum (IIRC?) for calling HF confirmed town there

you dont have that much history with HF and you're dumb.


look, I don't understand what you want me to do here. I'm actually advocating for you to stay alive another cycle.

On the basis of the game in general just being an enjoyable experience for me I don't know why I'd want to keep you alive if killing you would make the thread more peaceful.

And as much as you are warranted for calling me bad, you can't deny that I have a fairly good reputation for actually getting people lynched.

Look i have no idea what having good reputation for actually getting people lynched has got to do with anything. I dont care if i am lynched or not, i am posting my opinions and regrdless of if they are from page 2 or 100 it shouldnt matter because scummy things can happen on page 2 or 100. I know you disagree with me but i dont have any problem with it. I am calling you dumb because in the game we were mafia i gave you a strategy before i died, a strategy that should win you the game and you shot the only person who was sided with you and you + him could have convinced the third person to lynch a townie, but never you alone when the other two people you decided to not shoot into were 100% town to each other. You didn't even manage to aknowledge you made a mistake there after the game and in this game you are calling my mafia play something it definitely isn't. Okay back then i let that slide. Maybe you are just rusty when you just came back. Then after last game you shit on me after game that you should not listen to me when i voted for mafia the only day i was alive, and you managed to vote zero mafia in any of the four days. Like.... even as a joke that's hilarious.

You can choose to believe me or not, i don't really want you to do anything. Just don't act like you're above everything because you're not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:41 GMT
#1329
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

I dont have a good answer for the first thing. I just don't feel like he is mafia. Maybe i am wrong maybe i am right, but i sure as hell think there are more scummy people than ruxxar and i dont think those people are mafia with him.

I just did give an example. You were in the very same game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:42 GMT
#1330
On May 21 2019 21:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 21 2019 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
going to point out that I also viewed HF town at that point, and I guess you were sort of internally consistent in that you called me scum (IIRC?) for calling HF confirmed town there

you dont have that much history with HF and you're dumb.


look, I don't understand what you want me to do here. I'm actually advocating for you to stay alive another cycle.

On the basis of the game in general just being an enjoyable experience for me I don't know why I'd want to keep you alive if killing you would make the thread more peaceful.

And as much as you are warranted for calling me bad, you can't deny that I have a fairly good reputation for actually getting people lynched.

Look i have no idea what having good reputation for actually getting people lynched has got to do with anything. I dont care if i am lynched or not, i am posting my opinions and regrdless of if they are from page 2 or 100 it shouldnt matter because scummy things can happen on page 2 or 100. I know you disagree with me but i dont have any problem with it. I am calling you dumb because in the game we were mafia i gave you a strategy before i died, a strategy that should win you the game and you shot the only person who was sided with you and you + him could have convinced the third person to lynch a townie, but never you alone when the other two people you decided to not shoot into were 100% town to each other. You didn't even manage to aknowledge you made a mistake there after the game and in this game you are calling my mafia play something it definitely isn't. Okay back then i let that slide. Maybe you are just rusty when you just came back. Then after last game you shit on me after game that you should not listen to me when i voted for mafia the only day i was alive, and you managed to vote zero mafia in any of the four days. Like.... even as a joke that's hilarious.

You can choose to believe me or not, i don't really want you to do anything. Just don't act like you're above everything because you're not.


okay, got it, you're calling me dumb because you hold a grudge against me.

not really. it's more that the same thing continues this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:46 GMT
#1336
On May 21 2019 21:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
also you seem to townread both Koshi and VE so it doesn't seem like it should be any sort of difficult decision for you???

i do whatever i want to do.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:47 GMT
#1337
On May 21 2019 21:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

I dont have a good answer for the first thing. I just don't feel like he is mafia. Maybe i am wrong maybe i am right, but i sure as hell think there are more scummy people than ruxxar and i dont think those people are mafia with him.

I just did give an example. You were in the very same game.


Ruxxar has played in the same game where I evaded a red check and got the cop lynched and still won. Calix has arguably played less with me than ruxxar, especially as mafia so would know even less about that.

yeah but ruxxar is not calix.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:51 GMT
#1347
On May 20 2019 06:49 ruXxar wrote:
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On May 20 2019 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.

- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.

- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.

##Vote calix



Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not.


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On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post right here
it almost makes me wanna vomit how artificial it is

this post is really good although i don't remember if i said the same thing before.
On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have.


On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”


Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours.

It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth.


Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though.


so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts.
tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish.
im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus.
my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion.
speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta.
i could be swayed to vote conversion today.

i think there are multiple points here that mafia never says.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:56 GMT
#1356
na-ah VE, asking people to vote for you doesn't mean they are town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:57 GMT
#1359
On May 21 2019 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
na-ah VE, asking people to vote for you doesn't mean they are town.

especially when they just gave a townread on you rofl.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:57 GMT
#1360
On May 21 2019 21:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.

Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded.


If you vote rayn I might spare you

nah who am I kidding I'll probably try to kill you right after rayn dies

Rayn is town and so am I. Try again.

why are you agaisnt lynching me?
should everyone think i am town now?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:59 GMT
#1367
Yeah you could kill me and then kill Calix then cry after game because jock won.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 13:08 GMT
#1376
On May 21 2019 22:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 22:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.

Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.

Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.


You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version.+ Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] +
I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else.


I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.


do you remember Jock's response to me last game about what he thought scumhunting meant? Probably not...here's a refresher:

On May 01 2019 01:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Suddenly even happier with my decision.


Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net.

First game - mafia - failed to spot it
Second game - town - dead first night
Third game... you get the picture.

I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum.

I'm not mafia by the way.


not helping yourself much here mate. Before I go down that path of lowering expectations/opinions about things, why don't you talk to me about who you actually think we should kill instead of you?

If we can't get that far, brushing aside the newness factor, do you understand BC's stated reason for voting you?

What's your strategy for finding scum?


Yeah he wants to get people talking. I can't think of anything to say in particular though.

My strategy for finding scum at the moment is to see who's acting suspiciously, but there isn't much here to go on to be honest.


On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here.


Out of character compared to when I was mafia?


You gonna ignore my previous post?

You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions:

Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?

Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie?


Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead.

In addition to that, let's see your reads.


I have read incognito's guide. At the moment I'm looking for typical mafia stuff, apologetic posting, if anyone has an agenda or is making alot of posts without contributing, inconsistent weird logic. That stuff is suspicious.

#1 priority as town for me is finding scum.

don't even think about skipping any of the questions:


LOL


On May 01 2019 12:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
BC seems town
He's wrong about me but he's genuinely hunting I think.

FF could be scum. Just turned up to claim town and hasn't said anything at all.

VE is the most blatant town to me so far. His posts are sensible and he's actually contributing.

MZ reads town

Can't read HF

Bugs is interesting. Lots of questions no answers. Probably the most scummy out of everyone, just from the number of questions he's asked people that are irrelevant or pointless.


I don't really have any strong scum reads at the moment.


Seems to me like this isn't really a good indicator for Jock, but could just be me.


I don't find this consistent tbh maybe. He seems to be valuing other people's reads (eg Koshi) to use as an excuse to be unsure of someone he has voted with at every instance.

He just feels a bit off to me.


on the bright side if we kill Jock and he flips town we could just kill rayn immediately afterward right?

I'd actually love to see what would happen in that case


Don't you think that maybe... JUST MAYBE


That's why rayn decide to pick on me?


wait what?

Why would rayn pick on you so that we'd kill him after killing you

that makes no sense whatsoever


No but he would pick on me because I'm obviously town and not gonna get lynched so you'll never find out.

yeah that's what i always do as mafia, look how much it's working!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 13:19 GMT
#1387
iGrok you said
still not caught up, but so far I want rux or disinfo lynched.

but wrote "thoughts" on people who are not disfo or ruxxar, before and after this post. and nothing on disfo & ruxxar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 13:23 GMT
#1394
On May 21 2019 22:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Conversion's filter can be split in half - half of it I really like and the other half I really don't. The half I really don't feels like it's intentionally and disingenuously abbrasive. Like "YO I CLEARLY DONT FUCKING CARE WHAT YOU THINK SO OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT THE BAD GUY!" Offset by the half I do like though, where it looks like he's pretty obviously filtering people and giving his thoughts, I can maybe see that he really just may BE abbrasive and he just like, ACTUALLY doesn't give a fuck what I think. Meh.

I'll call it town for now.

idk what you are talking about?
in the secret hitler game he openly claimed D1 he will said with mafia....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 13:23 GMT
#1395
said = side
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 13:25 GMT
#1400
I will get some music.
+ Show Spoiler +
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 13:28 GMT
#1406
On May 21 2019 22:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 22:24 Koshi wrote:
Fucking calix calls me mafia, gives me no out in jer reasonings, and is still just unvoting me and saying there is 1 mafia in Koshi/rayn and looking for a third person to vote on.


WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FUCKZRS READING????

HOW IS THAT ACCEPTABLE??????

No man she settled on me as the third I think. Her and Jock both.

hey that's convenient.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 13:29 GMT
#1408
On May 21 2019 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 22:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 21 2019 22:24 Koshi wrote:
Fucking calix calls me mafia, gives me no out in jer reasonings, and is still just unvoting me and saying there is 1 mafia in Koshi/rayn and looking for a third person to vote on.


WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FUCKZRS READING????

HOW IS THAT ACCEPTABLE??????

No man she settled on me as the third I think. Her and Jock both.

hey that's convenient.

actually they settled on me looks like from the voting thread.
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