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On May 21 2019 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:02 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2019 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look HF, do you really think i am a reasonable lynch today? I never said you were? I said you'd be a dumb lynch but not an awful one just because you are being an obstinate twat. I think you look more towny recently if anything. and once again you let the thread go on and on for like 20 pages after i have claimed to be a parity cop. I am not sure you do this as town HF, regardless of how i act (i worked for 48h past 3 days, slept mby 3 hrs / night, i was literally just sleeping all yesterday after work -- stupid bugs case). You let dumbass shit fly in the thread too much. Shit that you dont consider relevant or shit that's just shit, and i don't like it.
You literally said you fake claimed.
You literally make this accusation every game "why hasn't hf stopped this stupid shit? He must be mafia" same shit different day.
You're not a baby you can stop your own fights rather than relying on me. I don't think any pressure on you is bad in the slightest either so it could be the worst accusation I've ever seen on you and I simply won't stop it because you've decided to rely on a case nobody agreed on and afkd.
I haven't even been around. This is a very very poor accusation and you don't even come to a conclusion.
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On May 20 2019 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 08:24 Conversion wrote:
wtf rayn claimed? was it a joke
disinfo is flaky as hell from what I read and probably mafia
yes yes you should vote for jock.
Literally said it was a joke. Like what?
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Why can I remember your posts better than yourself?
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On May 21 2019 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:40 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 20 2019 08:24 Conversion wrote:
wtf rayn claimed? was it a joke
disinfo is flaky as hell from what I read and probably mafia
yes yes you should vote for jock. Literally said it was a joke. Like what? i answered for i claimed, disfo is flaky, and mafia
"was rayn's claim a joke?"
"yes"
"you said you fake claimed"
"no I didn't?"
What lol.
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On May 21 2019 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jock if you ever want me to consider you town you need to explain what you meant with the red parts in these posts thoroughly. On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?
Is that your idea of fun rayn?
IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now. Yes I will do that now. The original post you made was where you claimed town vanilla The reasoning you gave for why doesn't make sense to any reasonable person. Its like walking into a room but instead of saying hello, finding all the magazines in that room, cutting out the letters that spell helpppdfao and then rearranging for everyone so everyone knows you're there. It doesn't make sense and is stupid. At that point in the thread nothing else had happened. I didn't like your stupid reasoning that doesn't make sense. Maybe you do say hello by copy pasting old messages. But given the lack of action at that point in the thread I put the vote on you to see what would happen. Its not even that it was scummy in particular, but it was the very beginning of the first game and it was weird and i didn't like it.
Oh so you voted him for his claim???
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On May 21 2019 23:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 21 2019 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jock if you ever want me to consider you town you need to explain what you meant with the red parts in these posts thoroughly. On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?
Is that your idea of fun rayn?
IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now. Yes I will do that now. The original post you made was where you claimed town vanilla The reasoning you gave for why doesn't make sense to any reasonable person. Its like walking into a room but instead of saying hello, finding all the magazines in that room, cutting out the letters that spell helpppdfao and then rearranging for everyone so everyone knows you're there. It doesn't make sense and is stupid. At that point in the thread nothing else had happened. I didn't like your stupid reasoning that doesn't make sense. Maybe you do say hello by copy pasting old messages. But given the lack of action at that point in the thread I put the vote on you to see what would happen. Its not even that it was scummy in particular, but it was the very beginning of the first game and it was weird and i didn't like it. Oh so you voted him for his claim???
Why did you say it was for his other posts and not the claim? I'm pretty sure you backed this up afterwards saying it wasn't for the claim too.
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On May 21 2019 23:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:57 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2019 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 21 2019 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jock if you ever want me to consider you town you need to explain what you meant with the red parts in these posts thoroughly. On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?
Is that your idea of fun rayn?
IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now. Yes I will do that now. The original post you made was where you claimed town vanilla The reasoning you gave for why doesn't make sense to any reasonable person. Its like walking into a room but instead of saying hello, finding all the magazines in that room, cutting out the letters that spell helpppdfao and then rearranging for everyone so everyone knows you're there. It doesn't make sense and is stupid. At that point in the thread nothing else had happened. I didn't like your stupid reasoning that doesn't make sense. Maybe you do say hello by copy pasting old messages. But given the lack of action at that point in the thread I put the vote on you to see what would happen. Its not even that it was scummy in particular, but it was the very beginning of the first game and it was weird and i didn't like it. Oh so you voted him for his claim??? Why did you say it was for his other posts and not the claim? I'm pretty sure you backed this up afterwards saying it wasn't for the claim too.
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On May 21 2019 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jock if you ever want me to consider you town you need to explain what you meant with the red parts in these posts thoroughly. On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn
I just don't like anything you posted so far.
Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.
You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?
Is that your idea of fun rayn?
IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now. Yes I will do that now. The original post you made was where you claimed town vanilla The reasoning you gave for why doesn't make sense to any reasonable person. Its like walking into a room but instead of saying hello, finding all the magazines in that room, cutting out the letters that spell helpppdfao and then rearranging for everyone so everyone knows you're there. It doesn't make sense and is stupid. At that point in the thread nothing else had happened. I didn't like your stupid reasoning that doesn't make sense. Maybe you do say hello by copy pasting old messages. But given the lack of action at that point in the thread I put the vote on you to see what would happen. Its not even that it was scummy in particular, but it was the very beginning of the first game and it was weird and i didn't like it.
On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now.
On May 20 2019 15:09 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
The worst part of that Jock post is that he's calling rayn mafia by doing exactly what he told rayn was scummy about him fmp. He says rayn does nothing but come in and bitch about how people are playing, but complains about how rayn is playing.
I did miss that iGrok was town last game for whatever reason I though iGrok was replaced by Vivax who got modkilled, but it was a simultaneous thing iGrok replaced when Vivax was unjustly modkilled. Honest mistake, but it doesn't change my read of this game. Just makes the throwaway meta part of it inaccurate. "Bitch about how people are playing" No VE, you're wrong my friend I was saying that his responses were scummy because rather than trying to find scum he decided not to do so in those early posts.What you're saying here is fundamentally untrue. I was actually TOTALLY calling rayn out on being scum. I wasn't bitching about how people are playing, whereas rayn literally just called a few people stupid and nothing else.
So was it his responses after the fact and lack of scum hunting or his first post and pressure?
You chop and change your reasoning.
##vote Jockmcplop
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On May 22 2019 00:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm done with this shit.
Seriously.
Is my post wrong?
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On May 22 2019 00:10 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 00:08 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 00:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm done with this shit.
Seriously. Is my post wrong? The fact that you look at my responses to rayn - which means that you are also looking at rayns posts, and out of the two you decide i am mafia... . yes, very, very wrong.
Explain how it is wrong.
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Can anyone else offer an explanation? Jock has commented on rayn's accusations saying his vote was actually on rayn for pressure and because of the wording of his first post.
It turns out when he justified himself against rayn's case earlier then he said it was actually for rayn's lack of scum hunting ans NOT the first post.
Very inconsistent
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On May 22 2019 00:12 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 00:11 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 00:10 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 22 2019 00:08 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 00:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm done with this shit.
Seriously. Is my post wrong? The fact that you look at my responses to rayn - which means that you are also looking at rayns posts, and out of the two you decide i am mafia... . yes, very, very wrong. Explain how it is wrong. I can't even be bothered. Maybe you're right in that there was some inconsistency. Have you ever seen a 10 or so page filter with no inconsistencies in it? If you have you are looking at a mafia filter. Seriously though this is my last post think what you want vote for whoever you want I find this game far too stressful for it to be even remotely good for me to continue playing it.
I have but there's always an explanation for it. This is quite a big one though. Surely you know why you actually voted rayn at the start of the game??
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On May 22 2019 00:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Theoretically more had happened by the time rayn case came out, so Jock could have ineloquently meant that his read evolved?
His top post was like 30 minutes ago and it didn't mention anything about voting rayn based on his lack of scum hunting.
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On May 22 2019 00:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
Just so you guys are in no doubt:
I'm trying to play, to learn and to improve all at the same time. I find this difficult and yeah, I'm asking a shit ton of questions. There aren't any newbie games here and I'm completely clueless jsut going off what the guides and mafaiscum wiki say about it.
So yeah, I ask alot of questions. I'm literally asking for help and getting shit all (Except WBG who is quite happy to help) and then being lynched for doing shit wrong.
This isn't something I'd post if i was trying not to be lynched because I'm knowingly invoking my own lack of skill and expereience. I'm gonna go concentrate on chess instead.
Good luck to you all. Even if I'm not lynched I can't be bothered with this shit. I'm too anxious a person. Its bad for my mental health.
Just so you know I take mental health very seriously so if you've lied about this and are actually mafia I will feel disgusted with you that you used this. I don't want you to feel bad and I just genuinely want an answer because I enjoy playing with you.
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We're not horrible, we're just making sure you weren't! In fact we're trying to make sure you're ok.
Please don't replace. I'll call you confirmed town all game if I have to.
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For real, anxiety and depression affects a lot of people in my life and even myself and it's a touchy subject that people have used before as an appeal to emotion. I just wanted the one thing explaining so sorry if that created undue stress, I truly didn't mean that.
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On May 22 2019 01:02 iGrok wrote:
Frankly the HF turn on Jock feels scummy, like pushing an easy lynch. Honestly HF's filter looks like trash, with one or two exceptions
Probably the single worst thing I've seen in this thread to date.
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On May 22 2019 01:04 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 01:02 Holyflare wrote:We're not horrible, we're just making sure you weren't! In fact we're trying to make sure you're ok. Please don't replace. I'll call you confirmed town all game if I have to. No hard feelings to any of you, you're all just playing the game the way you're supposed to, but I also can't use mental health as a bargaining chip to get called a townie cos that's bullshit. My heart rate was elevated for the entire walk home from work. I'm fine though. I like the logic and stuff that goes with this game but maybe I have hangups about rejection (or something like that) that makes me freak out when accused. Obviously that doesn't go well with playing mafia.
Stick around and we'll figure it out together at least? Would like to try, this game seems fine.
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On May 22 2019 01:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 01:04 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 22 2019 01:02 Holyflare wrote:We're not horrible, we're just making sure you weren't! In fact we're trying to make sure you're ok. Please don't replace. I'll call you confirmed town all game if I have to. No hard feelings to any of you, you're all just playing the game the way you're supposed to, but I also can't use mental health as a bargaining chip to get called a townie cos that's bullshit. My heart rate was elevated for the entire walk home from work. I'm fine though. I like the logic and stuff that goes with this game but maybe I have hangups about rejection (or something like that) that makes me freak out when accused. Obviously that doesn't go well with playing mafia. Stick around and we'll figure it out together at least? Would like to try, this game seems fine.
I say fine but I don't even know why I typed that. Meant it seems fun and actually hard to solve who is mafia. So that's some logic to work out!
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Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything.
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