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On May 25 2019 20:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2019 19:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn can I ask you why you're so unwilling to compromise in games? Like I get it, you like to be right and the only way to be proven right is to lynch your targets or whatever but like....if you can WIN the game and be right too, why not do that instead? This nonsense about being unwilling to help OTHERS in the game see what you see hurts towns man. I have used endless amount of effort in convincing other people and compromising in games and all i have gotten from it is being called tunneled, stupid and other names -- except for from some specific people. It's not worth my time. I am here just to tell what i think, i don't care who gets lynched or if people believe me or not. I just vote for who i think is mafia. But like...it seems like a lot of the people who don't do that are here in this game and want to work with you right? Me, Artanis, it seems like you and HF could work together if you tried...BC not beyond reason. Like I think you're tunneled on Calix sure, but I'm not berating you for it or anything, I just want to understand man. And you're not helping me to understand.
Err. Not going to lie but like, half the people in this game seem unwilling to truly compromise (me included id say). People are near refusing to try and read other players as anything but they seem. Like. For instance, nothing that has happened this game day makes me change my read on bugs. In fact I understand exactly why he raged at koshis claim.
When you have more or less all the vets on complete opposite spectrums in terms of our reads its almost for sure that
1) we are all bad
2) at least 1 - 2 of us are mafia
3) both of the above
Also, some of the people that have berated Rayn in the past (at least in either obs qts, games, etc..) are actually in this game. Not sure why he would want to work together. Fuck with how toxic this thread is, I can easily understand just playing to prove ones own competence regardless of the outcome.
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put yourself in his shoes dude. I know you are trying to get him to help, but to do that (he can correct me here) you have to do more than try to engage with just him. And be open to a true engagement. I would like to believe you are willing to do that, but this game seems otherwise. Like, bugs, me, HF, you, koshi, etc...
We are all guilty of tunneling and being stubborn. Want him to open up? filter dive him, give your take on the case and ask for clarification, etc...
Asking someone general questions that exist in a filter arent going to work =\
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On May 25 2019 20:10 disformation wrote:
was also not easy to even get some form of consolidation d1 for the lynch
It hasn't even been easy getting consolidation on either of todays lynches. Look at the unvotes and revotes etc...
Unless both candidates are mafia, hell even if only one is, its still a field day for mafia given how chaotic and at eachothers throats we all are.
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Meh, something that needed to be said regardless.
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1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?
I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.
2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?
Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)
Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock
Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion
Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
I
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As for the recollection of interactions, I honestly would have to go back and read time stamps. I honestly can't remember much in regards to rayn other than the shit early day 1 which I tried to stop, and I actively skim Koshi's posts because of how annoying he is to read, which is well, shitty.
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Has Disformation even had his own thought this entire game. Like, skimming his filter is literally asking people questions, summaries of other peoples reads and choosing who he pushes based almost always on other peoples posts. Meh, maybe im biased.
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haha, and meanwhile here I am thinking theres very little that could convince me otherwise. And god knows i've tried to see him differently.
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Jesus flying fuck at this game. If anyone wonders why I have more or less vanished from the game it is seriously the last 25 pages or so of shit, like holy fuck. THIS game is a very clear reason of many issues I had which led me to quit playing Mafia. Like this is a shit show. Anyone at this point has a logical reason to just not want to play, regardless of alignment. Because its the most ridiculous thing in the world to read full of vitrol and hate.
Lets pretend for even 1 moment that HF's claim (which he redacted) is real. Why would any of you think that Bugs would ever listen to you guys when he has a gun? As mafia he just shoots who he wants. He would only shoot the other wagon if it was going to kill another townie. Otherwise he shoots a "scum" read or some shit. As town, when he thinks 90% of you are shitters he will just shoot who he wants.
Now heres the thing, HE HAS ALREADY CLAIMED PR. He didn't claim what he has, he just claimed he was one. Now, that means if he isn't CCing that he is
A) A vig, which can be either of alignment
B) he is the jailkeeper who thinks hes the reason KP was blocked last night was him
C) Hes a lying mafia asshat who is scared shitless of a confirmed town.
NOW, speaking of confirmed town. Say for some flying fuck wild ride that Koshi is legit a Veteran and stopped a shot. Who the fuck would shoot him? Like seriously. No one has even remotely considered who in their right might shoots Koshi. The guy literally has bare bones reasons to his reads, in some case he has no reasons and just posts / parrots other people. He spams the thread, is widely ignored, but is essentially helping mafia. Why do they shoot him? Only someone who actually thought he was threatening that no one else was. You guys can go read that if you want. Why do I say this? Because the "vet" players in this game are 100% more likely to shoot Koshi as vigi's over being mafia.
Like the sheer level of dumb in this thread. (Me included, im not saying im not guilty of it).
People are being given a free pass for tons of shit.
Rayn - acting like a troll day 1, fake claims, gets out of a "lynch" becomes non entity.
Conversion - where the fuck is he. He is such a non entity that he more or less appears, says a few things of basically nothing, mimics sentiment or defends himself and vanishes
Disinformaion - Literally this games defiinition of a parrot. He has basically 0 thoughts that are his own, spews out other peoples cases to justify his own shit, asks questions, then pisses off with nothing new. In fact he constantly brings up shit the thread has moved past to re clutter it with the same debates.
Jock - Where the fuck is he. Outside of day 1, what has he done, where is he, why should I care about him. He is such a non entity with everything going on I barely ever remember hes in this game.
VE - You argue and fight everything. You are extremely combative this game and part of the reason I can't tell between you and bugs who should die to clean the thread. I purposely and reading you both as town so I can skim posts now. you both are responsible for half the stuff that makes the thread so terrible. STOP FIGHTING WITH EACHOTHER and spending pages upon pages upon pages burying everything else.
HF - You are being productive now but you werent for ages. I had more but you have started to actually well play. Long as you keep it up your general laziness / apathy day 1 can be ignored.
Igrok - You don't know why you are up for the lynch? You have been basically for the last 72 hours. It was you or Artanis. Not sure how you can appear and disappear as frequently as you do and not even know where the thread sentiment / votes are. However, this is a case (as much as everyone will call me terrible for it) of why you are likely dumb town and not scum.
Artanis and Calix are literally non stop talked about, and so am I. I know my filter is full of shit so feel free to kill me for it. Youd be doing me a favour.
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ALSO THIS THREAD SPAWNED 3 pages while I was typing jesus fuck
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On May 26 2019 06:10 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 06:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
Conversion he's either doing the BC scumpost thing because he hasn't given us an obvious enough scumtell yet or trying to get a reaction.
It looks ridiculous if you read it though lol.
WHY IS EVERYONE POSTING SO MUCH AND WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T POSTING NOT POSTING AND WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE MAFIA ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH so fucking bad.. Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 20:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?
I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.
2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?
Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)
Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock
Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion
Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
I LITERALLY ARTANIS one of his mafia reads why is he getting so angry??????
Why? Look at the shitstorm of the last now close to 30 pages.
I can logically make a case on basically every single player in this game on why they are mafia. LITERALLY everyone. Yes that is me included. Why am I angry? because most people while I think might be town for the most part are all playing towards the mafia win con. This game day alone we have had
1 player fake claim
1 player claim undisclosed role
1 player have someone claim they breadcrumbed a role
1 player claim vet
1 player reaffirm their day 1 claim
We have had players literally reappear randomly, bring up old cases / sentiment on people more or less being town read to throw shade at them again and vanish again.
We have players spamming the thread in anger at eachother while serving literally no purpose aside from helping mafia hide
etc....
Like seriously? and it feels like most people dont even give a shit about all this stuff.
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On May 26 2019 06:19 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 06:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 26 2019 06:10 Conversion wrote:On May 26 2019 06:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
Conversion he's either doing the BC scumpost thing because he hasn't given us an obvious enough scumtell yet or trying to get a reaction.
It looks ridiculous if you read it though lol.
WHY IS EVERYONE POSTING SO MUCH AND WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T POSTING NOT POSTING AND WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE MAFIA ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH so fucking bad.. On May 25 2019 20:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?
I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.
2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?
Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)
Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock
Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion
Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
I LITERALLY ARTANIS one of his mafia reads why is he getting so angry?????? Why? Look at the shitstorm of the last now close to 30 pages. I can logically make a case on basically every single player in this game on why they are mafia. LITERALLY everyone. Yes that is me included. Why am I angry? because most people while I think might be town for the most part are all playing towards the mafia win con. This game day alone we have had 1 player fake claim 1 player claim undisclosed role 1 player have someone claim they breadcrumbed a role 1 player claim vet 1 player reaffirm their day 1 claim We have had players literally reappear randomly, bring up old cases / sentiment on people more or less being town read to throw shade at them again and vanish again. We have players spamming the thread in anger at eachother while serving literally no purpose aside from helping mafia hide etc.... Like seriously? and it feels like most people dont even give a shit about all this stuff. THIS IS FAKE
No, that is literally things I have read. You auto dismissing it is helpful though.
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On May 26 2019 06:20 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 06:10 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Calix
You can all fuck off. Artanis is maybe mafia but Calix is 1000% mafia.
Maybe hf is also mafia. Maybe he would shoot me Indont care.
Fuck you all for lynching iGrok.
❤iGrok Why are you getting off your possible SCUM READ to someone who most likely won't be lynched today????? save iGrok by convincing people to lynch Artanis please
And you wonder why people would scum read koshi -_-
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On May 26 2019 06:21 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 06:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 26 2019 06:10 Conversion wrote:On May 26 2019 06:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
Conversion he's either doing the BC scumpost thing because he hasn't given us an obvious enough scumtell yet or trying to get a reaction.
It looks ridiculous if you read it though lol.
WHY IS EVERYONE POSTING SO MUCH AND WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T POSTING NOT POSTING AND WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE MAFIA ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH so fucking bad.. On May 25 2019 20:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?
I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.
2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?
Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)
Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock
Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion
Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
I LITERALLY ARTANIS one of his mafia reads why is he getting so angry?????? Why? Look at the shitstorm of the last now close to 30 pages. I can logically make a case on basically every single player in this game on why they are mafia. LITERALLY everyone. Yes that is me included. Why am I angry? because most people while I think might be town for the most part are all playing towards the mafia win con. This game day alone we have had 1 player fake claim 1 player claim undisclosed role 1 player have someone claim they breadcrumbed a role 1 player claim vet 1 player reaffirm their day 1 claim We have had players literally reappear randomly, bring up old cases / sentiment on people more or less being town read to throw shade at them again and vanish again. We have players spamming the thread in anger at eachother while serving literally no purpose aside from helping mafia hide etc.... Like seriously? and it feels like most people dont even give a shit about all this stuff. so instead of being the problem how about you refocus some of these players like Koshi who just randomly jumped off his Artanis scum read to vote on a non-wagon factor of Calix, and convince people to lynch your scum read Artanis over your dumb town read iGrok I don't think I have to tell you how to play this game, considering you have a much richer history in playing mafia, and you're a better player. I literally don't get it. are you mafia with Koshi or something?
And as I have said game after game for ages (not this one yet). Of the veteran players I by far am the worst town player.
My specialty has always been out of thread communication. I am also as mafia adept at thread manipulation but almost always end up dying because Im obvious as fuck.
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On May 26 2019 06:24 Calix wrote:
BC, I know you think I'm mafia and stuff.
But I want to help make the thread cleaner.
You seem very much like you would want this.
Would you consider switching votes to someone spammier?
Sad thing is. End of the game we win by killing mafia. If i 100% thing artanis is scum I will lynch him. If i was null on the entire thread id be willing to off bugs as hes been more vitriol as of late.
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On May 26 2019 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/pb8wayp1KafJK/giphy.gif) Jailers act into HF myself rayn Koshi Vigs act into Calix Artanis BC Bugs
Please do. I want out of this wild ride
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Rofl bugs. If you are actually town you reads and play have been so off. I super hope you are mafia and this is all a mafia trick to make a mafia vig come off as town.
Like I want to die but your read in me is terribly wrong.
Artanis
Disinformation
Calix
Maybe HF. *shrugs*
Again hope I eat the bullet
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Fuck that. Whoever he gave a gun to shoot me.
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And you've been wrong on ruxxar (so was i)
You were wrong on igrok
You are wrong about me.
So given I don't trust your reads based on that perhaps mine are more realistic.
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On May 26 2019 15:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
BC why did you make that post last night when being fake angry is your mafia thing?
Being mad is a one of my mafia things sure. But the thread being borderline unreadable is true. Hell I'm pretty sure bugs played in the game I hardcore raged on toadestern for spam shit.
I play mafia to have fun. I wasn't and really aren't having fun and as much as I have tried to change that the same atmosphere returns. People kill.me go for it. I'll play the let's see how right I am game
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