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On May 25 2019 03:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 03:05 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 02:58 Koshi wrote: Anyway. igrok obv town.
But baddies wont listen to me and rayn so w.e This is really funny, don't you think? On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote: No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.
Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse. One can only hope they see the light after you die. Dont focus and arguing with them. Just post opinions and your opinion only. Make it your testament. Yeah, that's why I decided to just completely tune out HF at this point. Just not worth engaging with mafia.
Should I even bother doing a stitch of my read list or should I just say fuck it because mafia are going to misconstrue it and get me lynched anyways?
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On May 25 2019 03:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 03:09 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 03:06 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2019 03:05 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 02:58 Koshi wrote: Anyway. igrok obv town.
But baddies wont listen to me and rayn so w.e This is really funny, don't you think? On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote: No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.
Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse. One can only hope they see the light after you die. Dont focus and arguing with them. Just post opinions and your opinion only. Make it your testament. Yeah, that's why I decided to just completely tune out HF at this point. Just not worth engaging with mafia. Should I even bother doing a stitch of my read list or should I just say fuck it because mafia are going to misconstrue it and get me lynched anyways? I dont care. Just do it for yourself and look at the results endgame. If you spam dumb shit people do what they want. If you make brilliant cases people do what they want. You play for yourself.
Truth.
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On May 25 2019 03:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Because his hidden points are no longer hidden? 2 of them were townie? Oh no, hidden stuff is still hidden. So you have 2 more points. in green.
Basically my read on you has never been certain.
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On May 25 2019 03:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Yeah no, that doesn't sound like rayn at all he fucking loves when towns don't listen to him because one of his FAVORITE things in the world is being right when everyone else is wrong. This is the truest thing that has been said in this game lol.
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On May 25 2019 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote: VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.
Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read. You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean? they were never hidden + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + Then idk. That img is just an incomplete thread summary with SOME thoughts. Not to minimize the way you work iGrok but I really don't see why anyone townreads you for this. That's pretty much what it is, yeah. I fucking hate diving filters, so when I read, when I find a post or interaction that feels important, I list it here. Then I can see a concise player activity summary. I can move around the summaries to put related ones next to each other if I want or just to compare two. Doing this filters out a lot of the bullshit spam that I think everyone would admit this game is full of.
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On May 25 2019 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote: VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.
Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read. You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean? they were never hidden + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + Then idk. That img is just an incomplete thread summary with SOME thoughts. Not to minimize the way you work iGrok but I really don't see why anyone townreads you for this. Also, see the post above the one you quoted. Please don't take what HF says about my methods as more true than what I say about my methods. You might not think its good/effective but at the very least I know more about what I'm doing than someone else does.
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On May 25 2019 03:32 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 03:32 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote: VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.
Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read. You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean? they were never hidden + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + Then idk. That img is just an incomplete thread summary with SOME thoughts. Not to minimize the way you work iGrok but I really don't see why anyone townreads you for this. That's pretty much what it is, yeah. I fucking hate diving filters, so when I read, when I find a post or interaction that feels important, I list it here. Then I can see a concise player activity summary. I can move around the summaries to put related ones next to each other if I want or just to compare two. Doing this filters out a lot of the bullshit spam that I think everyone would admit this game is full of. It also makes you miss a bunch of shit. But whatever floats your boat. Yeah but if I need to I'll go back and reread the thread and add new points and updated colors based on context. That's what happened when diso pointed out my logic error for example.
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On May 25 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 03:33 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 03:21 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 03:20 Koshi wrote: VE not doing anything with this image is just ridiculous not? Just waiting out the aftermath. Lol.
Well ok. Maybe wbg has 1 correct read. You think this image makes him town? Or what? I'm mafia for.....not unvoting Grok? What does this even mean? they were never hidden + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + Then idk. That img is just an incomplete thread summary with SOME thoughts. Not to minimize the way you work iGrok but I really don't see why anyone townreads you for this. Also, see the post above the one you quoted. Please don't take what HF says about my methods as more true than what I say about my methods. You might not think its good/effective but at the very least I know more about what I'm doing than someone else does. Yeah I'm definitely not reading you based on HF's interpretation of your notes. XD

Thats basically all I ask lol
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Why do people think conv is mafia?
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On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.
Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry.
If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible.
Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice.
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote: We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF. This doesn't make any sense.
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On May 25 2019 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.
Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry. If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible. Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice. On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote: We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF. This doesn't make any sense. Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI. Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you. VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game. So, since it only makes sense to mafia, and it doesn't make sense to me, why are you still voting for me?
Also, VE, please dont do that. Point made.
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On May 25 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote: The rest:
BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is. Bugs I'm leaning town on. HF is obviously mafia. VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet. Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea. Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2. Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum.. Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention". While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol. iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads. How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension. Give me one read artanis has made based on solid townie logic. God, this so much. Couldnt put it into words but yaaaas
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On May 25 2019 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:18 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.
Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry. If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible. Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice. On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote: We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF. This doesn't make any sense. Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI. Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you. VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game. So, since it only makes sense to mafia, and it doesn't make sense to me, why are you still voting for me? Also, VE, please dont do that. Point made. Don't tell me what to do sir. We've been begging you to play more and now you're about to be lynched because you didn't. So no, I won't be not doing that thing you asked me to not do. I didn't tell, I asked, I even said please 
Also, don't I still have another like, 30 hours before EOD? I'm hopeful someone else will realize how bad HF is by then.
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On May 25 2019 04:22 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote: The rest:
BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is. Bugs I'm leaning town on. HF is obviously mafia. VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet. Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea. Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2. Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum.. Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention". While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol. iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads. How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension. Give me one read artanis has made based on solid townie logic. I have no idea what you definition of 'solid townie logic' is. All I can say is that, when I filter-dived him yesterday, his progressions make sense and I could see a townie perspective/ internal logic behind his posts. His D2/ WBG posts aren't great but they don't sufficiently prove he's mafia either. Meanwhile iGrok has not posted ANYTHING helpful to town this entire cycle. Ok, lets pretend I'm a complete dunce. Some of you seem to think that anyways so whatever. Help me out here:
TL MAFIA LESSON 101: What is something helpful that someone has posted this game? Literally any example please.
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On May 25 2019 04:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:24 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 04:22 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote: The rest:
BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is. Bugs I'm leaning town on. HF is obviously mafia. VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet. Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea. Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2. Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum.. Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention". While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol. iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads. How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension. Give me one read artanis has made based on solid townie logic. I have no idea what you definition of 'solid townie logic' is. All I can say is that, when I filter-dived him yesterday, his progressions make sense and I could see a townie perspective/ internal logic behind his posts. His D2/ WBG posts aren't great but they don't sufficiently prove he's mafia either. Meanwhile iGrok has not posted ANYTHING helpful to town this entire cycle. Ok, lets pretend I'm a complete dunce. Some of you seem to think that anyways so whatever. Help me out here: TL MAFIA LESSON 101: What is something helpful that someone has posted this game? Literally any example please. Literally any one of WBG's articulate and detailed posts that cite examples/ evidence and clearly explain his thought process. I know I've not interacted much with WBG's posts but I do appreciate the thought that goes into them. And his point about the VE/ Koshi/ rayn bloc being content to not have influence over the lynch is a good one IMO. Like, I hate to be pedantic, but can you please pick out a specific one that you think is good. Post # would be appreciated, I'll dig it up
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On May 25 2019 04:28 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:27 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 04:24 iGrok wrote:On May 25 2019 04:22 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote: The rest:
BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is. Bugs I'm leaning town on. HF is obviously mafia. VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet. Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea. Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2. Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum.. Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention". While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol. iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads. How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension. Give me one read artanis has made based on solid townie logic. I have no idea what you definition of 'solid townie logic' is. All I can say is that, when I filter-dived him yesterday, his progressions make sense and I could see a townie perspective/ internal logic behind his posts. His D2/ WBG posts aren't great but they don't sufficiently prove he's mafia either. Meanwhile iGrok has not posted ANYTHING helpful to town this entire cycle. Ok, lets pretend I'm a complete dunce. Some of you seem to think that anyways so whatever. Help me out here: TL MAFIA LESSON 101: What is something helpful that someone has posted this game? Literally any example please. Literally any one of WBG's articulate and detailed posts that cite examples/ evidence and clearly explain his thought process. I know I've not interacted much with WBG's posts but I do appreciate the thought that goes into them. And his point about the VE/ Koshi/ rayn bloc being content to not have influence over the lynch is a good one IMO. Like, I hate to be pedantic, but can you please pick out a specific one that you think is good. Post # would be appreciated, I'll dig it up And just to be transparent about it, I'm going to see if anything I have posted is comparable (in my eyes). That's why I'm asking. Then of course it'll be back up to you again.
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Alright, so the people Koshi was going after were, by my book: Calix, Conv, me, HF, BC
Was very anti-rux lynch, and leaned green on ve
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I don't actually want to vote bugs but since we were talking about this game earlier:
On September 08 2011 12:07 Jackal58 wrote:This game needs some: ![[image loading]](http://farm1.static.flickr.com/85/247479853_ace4c37a85.jpg)
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Just voted Artanis because of the two of us he’s scummier. Would still prefer HF Lynch.
Going to meet Alakaslam for dinner in LA, then another plane home . I’ll be back before N2.
And sure, this may look scummy as shit, but fuck you im tired and I don’t want to read 10 pages of is he - isn’t he about Koshi. You have my reads, most of you either agree but still think I’m shady or think they are bad and think I’m shady, so gfys and keep spamming away.
Peace
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Oh, and I’m really glad I’ve pegged koshi as green so I never have to read his filter. 31 pages are you kidding me? And I thought HF was bad lol <3
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