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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 22:33 GMT
#349
On May 20 2019 07:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also why are we trying to kill iGrok while he said he’s on a plane?

I think his vote post is strange but it’s equally strange to try to pressure/kill someone who up front said they’re not going to be here for a while. It accomplishes very little and inevitably iGrok will just come back and complain for being voted while afk regardless of alignment.


Unless he's on a plane for the entirety of a 72 hour cycle then I'm sure a few votes on him to get him lynched aren't going to hurt him, are they?

You even agree his post is strange (it's scummy) so what's the problem?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 22:36 GMT
#353
Calix is playing a manipulative game imo. That's what it feels like at least.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 22:39 GMT
#357
On May 20 2019 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-


Anyone else interested that he wonders where my jock read is but doesn't give a fuck that I put him as mafia ?


I think that's more a townie mindset? He's not concerned about what your read of him is (something mafia are normally hyper aware of) and is more concerned where you put a figure that people are talking about (Jock). Stuff like that, even if little, leads me to think disfo isn't that bad looking. At least for now, which is extremely superficially atm.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 22:59 GMT
#374
On May 20 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would you kill a townie that wants to lynch mafia?


You know he’s town?

btw I didn’t see anyone else mention this and I’m sad because I wanted a free town read so I’ll just come out and say it myself

VE used activity to paint iGrok scummy based on him being replaced last game but actually iGrok was town last game, replaced by slam. I can’t point out the post now because I’m on mobile but 99.999% sure VE’s post was saying this. Seems like it might have just been an honest mistake but VE is quite sharp


I mean, that's not the reason VE voted or called iGrok scummy in the slightest? He said he didn't like how iGrok called rayn friend for his opening post and then voted rayn for his opening post.

There was a whole discussion about it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:15 GMT
#387
On May 20 2019 08:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would you kill a townie that wants to lynch mafia?


You know he’s town?

btw I didn’t see anyone else mention this and I’m sad because I wanted a free town read so I’ll just come out and say it myself

VE used activity to paint iGrok scummy based on him being replaced last game but actually iGrok was town last game, replaced by slam. I can’t point out the post now because I’m on mobile but 99.999% sure VE’s post was saying this. Seems like it might have just been an honest mistake but VE is quite sharp


I mean, that's not the reason VE voted or called iGrok scummy in the slightest? He said he didn't like how iGrok called rayn friend for his opening post and then voted rayn for his opening post.

There was a whole discussion about it?


I didn’t say that. I was just pointing out something. Go read my post again, carefully, then go read VE’s posts (probably from the last page?) again. He makes one post to the effect of something like “iGrok replaced out of last game as mafia” and assuming he is talking about the game we all just played, that is not true.



On May 19 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Eeeehhhh....I don't like how iGrok jumped on the rayn wagon. His first post was a jokey response post TO rayn and I about also being friendly - at the time, he didn't seem to be bothered by the way rayn phrased his post. In fact it looks like it's worded in a way that makes it seem like he thinks rayn is town ("i'm also friendly") only to then say he thinks rayn got "fucked by the hosts"

##Vote: iGrok

I like this one better.


I have to check if iGrok is really that terrible as mafia. If it was iamperfection who made that post i 'd vote in a heartbeat.

Well he instareplaced out of the last game as mafia. If viewed from an 'iGrok bad at mafia, but he try this game in penance" perspective it feels pretty good.


It's pretty ambiguous? Does he mean the last time he actually was mafia? Hard to tell, either way seems bit meaningless.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:17 GMT
#390
On May 20 2019 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 08:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would you kill a townie that wants to lynch mafia?


You know he’s town?

btw I didn’t see anyone else mention this and I’m sad because I wanted a free town read so I’ll just come out and say it myself

VE used activity to paint iGrok scummy based on him being replaced last game but actually iGrok was town last game, replaced by slam. I can’t point out the post now because I’m on mobile but 99.999% sure VE’s post was saying this. Seems like it might have just been an honest mistake but VE is quite sharp


I mean, that's not the reason VE voted or called iGrok scummy in the slightest? He said he didn't like how iGrok called rayn friend for his opening post and then voted rayn for his opening post.

There was a whole discussion about it?


I didn’t say that. I was just pointing out something. Go read my post again, carefully, then go read VE’s posts (probably from the last page?) again. He makes one post to the effect of something like “iGrok replaced out of last game as mafia” and assuming he is talking about the game we all just played, that is not true.



Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 19 2019 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Eeeehhhh....I don't like how iGrok jumped on the rayn wagon. His first post was a jokey response post TO rayn and I about also being friendly - at the time, he didn't seem to be bothered by the way rayn phrased his post. In fact it looks like it's worded in a way that makes it seem like he thinks rayn is town ("i'm also friendly") only to then say he thinks rayn got "fucked by the hosts"

##Vote: iGrok

I like this one better.


I have to check if iGrok is really that terrible as mafia. If it was iamperfection who made that post i 'd vote in a heartbeat.

Well he instareplaced out of the last game as mafia. If viewed from an 'iGrok bad at mafia, but he try this game in penance" perspective it feels pretty good.


It's pretty ambiguous? Does he mean the last time he actually was mafia? Hard to tell, either way seems bit meaningless.


Nvm.

Not sure I like VE' s reentry straight into Jock though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:39 GMT
#412
On May 20 2019 08:34 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to rate people based on being robotic I'd probably have a list of:

Calix
iGrok
Bugs

Then there's just like:

Koshi
Conversion
Disfo(???? maybe not ????)

probably a good list for day 1 to look at tbh


koshi literally has no posts and lazily plays all the time why is he on the list


You had 2 posts.

Don't even think disfo had posted.

What's your point? It's poe. I don't want to have to have bugs 2.0 like last game over a poe list again what's so hard to understand lol?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:42 GMT
#414
On May 20 2019 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think we need bugs 2.0 so he can lynch town all day as any alignment.


Stop
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:44 GMT
#418
On May 20 2019 08:42 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:34 Conversion wrote:
On May 20 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to rate people based on being robotic I'd probably have a list of:

Calix
iGrok
Bugs

Then there's just like:

Koshi
Conversion
Disfo(???? maybe not ????)

probably a good list for day 1 to look at tbh


koshi literally has no posts and lazily plays all the time why is he on the list


You had 2 posts.

Don't even think disfo had posted.

What's your point? It's poe. I don't want to have to have bugs 2.0 like last game over a poe list again what's so hard to understand lol?


what’s a bugs2.0?

im asking U because im curious if u had a deeper reason besides lol 0-2 posts. if that’s it then i overestimated ur reasons for the list what’s so hard to understand lol?


The top 3 had reasons. Bottom 3 just shitters :D

Calix seems manipulative and blendy/sheepy.

Bugs similarly at that point had only really sheeped and complained about being scum read. Since then my opinion on him has changed for the better ever so slightly.

IGrok as stated in vote post, bad reason to vote rayn.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:45 GMT
#421
K night.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:47 GMT
#423
On May 20 2019 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:42 Conversion wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:34 Conversion wrote:
On May 20 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to rate people based on being robotic I'd probably have a list of:

Calix
iGrok
Bugs

Then there's just like:

Koshi
Conversion
Disfo(???? maybe not ????)

probably a good list for day 1 to look at tbh


koshi literally has no posts and lazily plays all the time why is he on the list


You had 2 posts.

Don't even think disfo had posted.

What's your point? It's poe. I don't want to have to have bugs 2.0 like last game over a poe list again what's so hard to understand lol?


what’s a bugs2.0?

im asking U because im curious if u had a deeper reason besides lol 0-2 posts. if that’s it then i overestimated ur reasons for the list what’s so hard to understand lol?


The top 3 had reasons. Bottom 3 just shitters :D

Calix seems manipulative and blendy/sheepy.

Bugs similarly at that point had only really sheeped and complained about being scum read. Since then my opinion on him has changed for the better ever so slightly.

IGrok as stated in vote post, bad reason to vote rayn.

HEY THOSE ARE MY SCUMREADS! AND I DIDNT SAY SHIT S O GO FIGURE OUT YOUR OWN READS FFS!
Fucking hypocrites all of you.


I don't really scum read bugs anymore really. I made this list at the same time I stopped pushing you and said I was going to ignore fighting with you because I can see you as town deep down somewhere there's a glimmer of hope.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 07:18 GMT
#479
Jock I suggest moving away from rayn and forming opinions on other people. Rayn is a big time sink and the only thing that will change his mind is by playing townie.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 07:18 GMT
#480
Ah, you're doing that now, excellent
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 07:21 GMT
#482
On May 20 2019 16:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 16:18 Holyflare wrote:
Jock I suggest moving away from rayn and forming opinions on other people. Rayn is a big time sink and the only thing that will change his mind is by playing townie.


Yeah my previous post says as much. I'm finished with that unless he keeps on at me about it.
What do you think of conversion?


I think your post has a lot of merit, it's flaky and apologetic when it doesn't need to be. Like it a lot better than whatever people are posting about ruxxar because I don't think ruxxar looks too bad tbh.

I don't like how bugs has essentially discounted iGrok and solely talked about VE's points and not mine and then given iGrok an afk excuse pass.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 07:59 GMT
#518
Zzzzz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 08:01 GMT
#521
I think I currently want to lynch Koshi. He's clearly going down the side of buddying rayn which is smart and angling towards sowing discontent which is also smart but I'm not gonna fall for it. I'll see what boring conclusions he comes up with but he's chosen the wrong side of the fence.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 08:13 GMT
#528
On May 20 2019 17:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 17:01 Holyflare wrote:
I think I currently want to lynch Koshi. He's clearly going down the side of buddying rayn which is smart and angling towards sowing discontent which is also smart but I'm not gonna fall for it. I'll see what boring conclusions he comes up with but he's chosen the wrong side of the fence.


Can you point out specific posts that you feel are trying to sow discontent and how he's doing that please?

Again, I need things explaining to me as if I'm a baby. It makes the game easier to play that way.


He's afraid that rayn will spot he's mafia so he's sided on buddying him. If he's reading the thread it's quite easy to see the points that weren't related to rayn's opening had merit. Everyone can at least agree on that. Apart from Koshi.

Then he's trying to shovel stuff towards bugs/myself etc to sow those seeds of discontent and likely build a platform out of it. What will be most telling (although now he'll just read this post and change what he's doing if he's mafia) is where he ends up on.

I've admitted my rayn stuff was semi fabricated. Bugs has the same stance as Jock (who koshi is now ignoring), calix myself etc. If he sticks to saying bugs and myself look worst then he's stuck in his mafia narrative.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 08:33 GMT
#543
On May 20 2019 17:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 17:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 17:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 17:01 Holyflare wrote:
I think I currently want to lynch Koshi. He's clearly going down the side of buddying rayn which is smart and angling towards sowing discontent which is also smart but I'm not gonna fall for it. I'll see what boring conclusions he comes up with but he's chosen the wrong side of the fence.


Can you point out specific posts that you feel are trying to sow discontent and how he's doing that please?

Again, I need things explaining to me as if I'm a baby. It makes the game easier to play that way.


He's afraid that rayn will spot he's mafia so he's sided on buddying him. If he's reading the thread it's quite easy to see the points that weren't related to rayn's opening had merit. Everyone can at least agree on that. Apart from Koshi.

Then he's trying to shovel stuff towards bugs/myself etc to sow those seeds of discontent and likely build a platform out of it. What will be most telling (although now he'll just read this post and change what he's doing if he's mafia) is where he ends up on.

I've admitted my rayn stuff was semi fabricated. Bugs has the same stance as Jock (who koshi is now ignoring), calix myself etc. If he sticks to saying bugs and myself look worst then he's stuck in his mafia narrative.


Isn't this exactly the problem with replying to things form the past without reading what's going on now?

It seems like a tactic designed deliberately to keep the subject of discussion on old irrelevant arguments.

Yeah koshi looks bad. Let's see if he has anything to say that's relevant to the state of the thread as it is now.


I think he MAY do this as town too but it's the sides he's picking and narratives that he's trying to weave that look scummy. You can see he's already altered it when he quotes the VE post responding to me. Suddenly I've gone from maybe mafia to being in the dumb part of town. Then he leaves the added provision that mafia can live in the dumb part of town.

So what conclusion has he actually reached there other than try and pretend to side with me but leave me open for him to call me mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 08:40 GMT
#547
On May 20 2019 17:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Lynching conversion is the smart play here.

Like reading through his filter I can't see a single post where there's a clear town motive. He makes a read but says sorry and its probably wrong like because he hasn't played much.

Later on its 'i'm on phone and lazy'.

He's the third person in the space of a couple of hours to say he's on a plane and can't post. NAI on its own but looks scummy in context. Doesn't come back after. Long plane journey? Can't still post lazily on his phone when he lands/gets home. I mean if you're posting lazily why not just take the 2 seconds to do so.






I don't think any of this is outside town Conversion's range to be honest. Your strongest point is the flakiness. We'll see what he says on his return I think. Don't mind throwing some votes that way though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 10:39 GMT
#610
On May 20 2019 19:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 14:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jock, Calix, disformation.

I dont think ruxxar is mafia. Especially to oeople who havent played with him he always looks scummy purely from how he writes his posts.

How can both wbg and hf be this bad? One has to be mafia riding the bad townies ass right?


I don't know what you're referring to but I never called ruxxar mafia.
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