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On May 03 2019 22:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 22:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like are you shipping bugs as mafia? Is that what the hesitance is? That's my point. Independently I think both are mafia, together not so much at all. Bad thinking but it's whatever. He's done nothing to convince me otherwise and since being red checked has essentially just made a list post.
Well he did kinda stream-of-consciousness his rationale for ending up believing you. Regardless of his alignment, that seemed relatively genuine..
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HF at what point do I give in and listen to my good buddy Bugs and stop voting for his townread? Where does my vote go after that? Why is bugs trying to stop a lynch on Pandain when HE'S the one on the block? That's something I see WAAAAAY more often from townies trying to protect their reads than from mafia trying to get towncred for saving a townie.
If YOU think that they can't be mafia together, and it's WAAAAAY more likely that bugs is town, then why aren't you voting for Pandain?
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No? Nothing?
Is anyone else around that wants to try and put this puzzle together?
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On May 03 2019 05:32 Pandain wrote:
I'm sure mafia is fuming right now. That sucks. Not only is their GF dead but the lynch they were gonna try and push (me) can't work anymore.
HE EVEN CONGRATULATED THE DOC JESUS CHRIST GUYS
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Well all right, I'll fuck right the fuck off then.
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It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.
Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed.
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On May 04 2019 01:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
VE I’m open to convincing on Pandain because it seems I’m literally the only person who thinks he might be town. Besides the post flip self congratulations do you agree with HF’s points about Pandain?
I’m having a hard time seeing Pandain’s absence as being highly alignment indicative this game regardless of what he actually promised given that there are at least two other players doing similar things (Rels and BC are the ones that immediately come to mind) and this game is already low activity.
You think it's better or worse than a lynch on you? That's the question that matters currently.
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On May 04 2019 01:53 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 01:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 04 2019 01:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
VE I’m open to convincing on Pandain because it seems I’m literally the only person who thinks he might be town. Besides the post flip self congratulations do you agree with HF’s points about Pandain?
I’m having a hard time seeing Pandain’s absence as being highly alignment indicative this game regardless of what he actually promised given that there are at least two other players doing similar things (Rels and BC are the ones that immediately come to mind) and this game is already low activity. You think it's better or worse than a lynch on you? That's the question that matters currently. Literally any lynch is more likely to catch a scum than lynching me but I’m not the right person to ask that :p I am pretty fine with dying though because it’s clear that my continued presence is going to eat up a lot of town discussion.
Things Mafia Say for 1000 Alex
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In seriousness though, I've never seen you offer yourself up as town. Literally never.
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Not that I've ever seen you do it as mafia - it's just an oddity. I don't know what to make of it.
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On May 04 2019 01:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
like here’s the problem with HF saying me and Pandain are both scum independently but not scum together; it really only makes sense to say that from a mafia perspective. From a town perspective if you think two people are mafia independently, there are very few if any cases where you’d be like “ah but they’re absolutely not scum together” because that’s mostly just useless speculation.
OTOH from mafia perspective it’s great, because it gives him the opportunity to line up a lynch when one of us flips town, and basically allows him to continue to get away with doing jack shit, because he’ll just be like “lol one out of two mafia and we got unlucky today just kill the other”
Nah, this hasn't been my experience at all. I've seen a lot of townies do that shit. In video it's REALLY prevalent because the games are shorter and there's no going back, so people equivocate more.
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Not that mafia DON'T do it often, they absolutely do for the reasons you state....its just AS likely to come from town fmp.
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Nah I don't play that "No True Scotsman" shit. At least not intentionally.
HF is as self-aware as they come. That doesn't make him any more or less suspicious than anyone else.
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Why are you focusing on HF to exclusion? I thought you were suspicious of BC? MZ?
You should know that "punishing bad play" isn't going to fly here, with this player list. What's going on here?
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Oh shit it's the playerlist that makes you think it WILL fly.
Oh bugs. No one here cares about BC but you and me bro.
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HF gave up punishing bad play when he embraced it, Koshi is a troll, like punishing bad play is simply NOT the play here guy.
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THERES NO MOMENTUM!
That's probably the scummiest thing you've said today Bugs. Mafia tend to have a bleaker outlook on their own prospects than the reality of their situation.
The only reason people are voting you right now is the claim. In SPITE of the fact that HF is notorious for fake-claiming, there was the possiblity he wasn't so the votes ensued. And now he's dropped that claim. There is NO momentum to lynch you right now, but it probably FEELS like there is.
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm are you fuckking me bugs?
ARE YOU FUCKING ME BUGS?!
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##Unvote
ARE YOU FUCKING FUCKING ME BUGS?!?!?
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I think very little of Rels and I think BC needs to come in and weigh in on Bugs v. HF.
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