I thought scum had only 1 convert (disfo) aside from shit mechanics. Idk i thought he was scum ftom the beginning. Can you link me to a post that says he wasnt?

raynpelikoneet

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May 01 2019 11:17 GMT

#211

Well Koshi is town.

Idk what to think about jock honestly. I read him like grack did earlier but i dislike his re-entry a lot. Thankfully you can murder him without me. Bugs still scum.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 11:19 GMT

#212

I also think its possible koshi is right about pandain. I dont believe pandain forgot the game is going on after actually being an active poster early on. Idk why hed lie like that but to me ot sounds like 100% lie.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 11:20 GMT

#213

Grack is defs not mafia though.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 11:29 GMT

#216

On May 01 2019 20:25 wherebugsgo wrote:

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for how much our opinions align it's remarkable you think I am scum

I dont really even think you have any opinions since you write a lot of words but dont really have any hard opinions.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 16:45 GMT

#249

Here are the things i think wherebugsgo is mafia for:

"Game starter" super useless question that is almost identical to last mafia game, guaranteed to have zero help in finding mafia regardless of what anyone answers. Apparently he actually has a scumread on MZ. That in itself is weird because MZ's opening was at worst null and there was absolutely nothing scummy in it. Second point about that is that the rest of D1 bugs has wasted onto something (aka ll the posts on jock) that could have been said in one sentence - "play or die", if that's what you want to say. He never pursues the MZ lynch further and instead makes a completely useless set of coaching posts - like hf put it - onto a different person. Hell noone even knows why he scumreads MZ and he never even cared to explain that. Does that sound townie? Because to me it doesnt. Furthermore his read on me sounds pure omgus since, let's look at it:

I actually was in agreement with some of rayn's opinions early on (#125) but on reread it seems most of the things rayn accuses me of are projections.

Here is the post in question:

On May 01 2019 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jock town
Meapak town
VE town but misguided as fuck atm
Grack maybe town

Pandain maaaaaaaaybe town. I have never played with town!Pandain lol

BC no idea
FF no idea. I originally thought he cant be scum with bugs but rhat doesnt hold. Him and grack made the stupid packt some years ago that threw me off completely so he can defs be mafia with bugs.

Bugs maybe mafia.

Who else idk.

The only thing in this post bugs can agree with is that VE is town, otherwise he is just lying. null reads should be a no factor to him, he probably doesnt think he himself is mafia in case he is town, grack like me calls jock town so none of us three should get towncred from him since he thinks the opposite. Maybe he can agree on Pandain too, yet i dont really think Pandain is town anymore. I think this post on mine should get me any towncredit ever if bugs actually thinks what he has said in the thread, yet somehow magically that happened. It makes no sense.

Rest of his accusation is just fluff and omgus that doesn't really mean anything.

Furthermore i have absolutely no idea why bugs should ever townread Grackaroni here because Grackaroni has called the person he is voting for town and said he thinks he can read Pandain (which in itself doesn't mean anything alignmentwise). There is simply no reason why Grackaroni should not be in bugs' lynch pool.

##vote wherebugsgo

So there is that. I am pretty sure jock is a mislynch and i give it maybe 5% succes rate. So i am just going to hope i am horribly wrong. Vivax might be mafia too, his only post was just a rehash of what everyone else has said in different words.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 16:50 GMT

#251

On May 02 2019 01:29 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think WBG's repeated questions about incognitos guides and irrelevant things are a scum ploy to fly under the radar. I think he's just a bit of an odd-ball especially considering his reply to the incognito question.

His guide question is completely useless because no player ever comes and lies about if they have read a guide or not as mafia. Like it would have just been easier to claim he has not read the guide and justify being clueless lol. I let the whole thing play out just to see what bugs actually does with MZ and that result is what i consider scummy.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 16:54 GMT

#252

Also Grack, i don't think your "i think i can read pandain well" assesment is correct if you're basing it on his scumgame where he jsut didn't play (at least until D3), basically. He at least used to be one of the best scumplayers on TL and definitely isn't scared to post or held back as mafia.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 17:57 GMT

#255

On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote:
FIXED POST

I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close.

Also this is concerning:

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And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all.

You really think mafia claims this and then does the complete opposite? You'd need to be really dumb if you didn't realise this is exactly where it gets you and i wouldn't say that's a really good strategy. But it's okay, maybe the 70% of the game can talk about something else after D1 since you're gonna have your lynch.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 18:00 GMT

#256

Especially BC whose read i find overplayed since he called jock scum because he had nnothing to offer at the time BC himself couldn't really offer anything (but i dont really know what that means regarding his affiliation). And Holyflare who hasn't really done anything that points into any direction on his affiliation.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 18:25 GMT

#262

I am not against the lynch by any means i am just refusing to vote for someone i think is town.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 18:26 GMT

#263

Well it's sauna time, bbl

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 18:55 GMT

#266

Why is that?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 19:04 GMT

#272

can we get a vote count please?
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lol hosts

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

May 01 2019 19:09 GMT

#278

On May 02 2019 04:01 Pandain wrote:
If you think there's almost no chance someone is scum why are you perfectly okay with his lynch

Because he is completely useless and it makes about 70% of the game actually play the game and not just pile their votes on random lurkers and do nothing else.

Look if youre town please try to understand that its not necessarily scummy to not play the way you want people to. If i said what i said maybe 5 years ago it probs would make me mafia but i am over trying to convince everyone and everything about that i am right. I play this game for my own amusement nowdays because of reasons, i dont care what people think of me and i only care about if i am right or not and say what i think into the thread. I try to emulate that as much as possible when i am mafia but as mafia i actually have a team and a plan and i also try to execute it. It shows at least to some people, it always does.

So idc, if you think i am scummy regardless of jocks alignment maybe you should try get me lynched for whatever on D2. It's gonna be almost as bad as this day pahse.