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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2019 19:02 GMT
#2127
On May 09 2019 03:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2019 03:45 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nah I think you are town Pandain but just paranoia at this point

Like I will be really shocked if MZ doesn’t flip scum here

Lmao get ready to be shocked.

So please lynch Pandain after me.


Why is Pandain scummier than either grack or slam

Like I actually don’t get it, can you show me some evidence that Pandain is really good at scum? The burden of proof here is on you, if you’re town and you just tell us lynch him cause he’s scum we’re just going to lynch you and then if I think your reasons suck then ignore what you said completely and just chalk it up to a bad read.

Like rayn and HF died thinking I was scum, they were clearly wrong. Rayn listed myself, Vivax, Pandain, and FF and that is at least 2 out of 4 wrong. HF said you’re scum and I’m scum, and BC thought grack was scum. So why would we treat your opinion any more than players who we’ve already ignored?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 01:41 GMT
#2153
On May 09 2019 09:14 Alakaslam wrote:
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On May 03 2019 09:54 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 03 2019 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's actually why I ended up playing video mafia as long as I did, that style meshes better with my style of playing the game - my posts are short and conversational. If I walk up to you on a street I'm not going to hand you a letter, I'm going to say "what's up". This game is meant to emulate that dynamic, medium notwithstanding.

Anyway, rant over. I will never stop shit-posting, so long as I'm protected by the sub-forum by-laws that allow me to do so in the name of playing the game.

You're in pretty good company.

Especially now that Slam is in the game.

Hijole!

*read the nested quote*

We even shitposted at each other, man alive. Only VE would be someone I could call a dumbass in a game where he was the only player to result in a scum death, and have him take the high road back by highlighting exactly why I bothered to do so as the reason it was so bad

The man who pointed out and described exactly what my experience is playing this by smoking a bowl and playing and describing the experience

So

Imagine being high as a kite and playing mafia, now you are in Slam’s world

Btw WBG you gonna grab a bite with me in LA tomorrow? I know of a great spot off 3rd & Gladys + Show Spoiler +
DO NOT go there. But srs m8 let us find fine food, I know some spots and could give you a lift to the airport. I want excuses to go to LA, Chiyu is there ;D.
but if you wanna be all fancy we could head to Santa Monica.

With a guy whose daily life is like being constantly high as a kite


I think it’ll be really hard to meet up cause I’m arriving at LAX at 10 pm and leaving at 1 am, basically not enough time for me to exit and go back through security

Thanks for the offer though, maybe next time if I’m back in CA on a personal trip!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 01:45 GMT
#2154
also yeah no I’m not dealing with hypotheticals. We lynch MZ today and in the 0.1% chance he flips town we can discuss who we’ll off then

I’m not scum and I’m not going to bother spending time explaining myself when I’ve done more than enough of that all game. If you are town and have a garbage read on me at this point it’s not my responsibility to fix that.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 01:45 GMT
#2155
##vote Meapak_Ziphh
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 05:50 GMT
#2159
On May 09 2019 14:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2019 10:45 wherebugsgo wrote:
also yeah no I’m not dealing with hypotheticals. We lynch MZ today and in the 0.1% chance he flips town we can discuss who we’ll off then

I’m not scum and I’m not going to bother spending time explaining myself when I’ve done more than enough of that all game. If you are town and have a garbage read on me at this point it’s not my responsibility to fix that.

You won’t survive a night afaik so


It’s ok homeslice I townread you and Pandain

It’s MZ all the way

Look how he doesn’t ever respond to anything
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 15:17 GMT
#2169
Meapak you never answered anyone, why is Pandain scum? You made the most token effort in filtering FF and calling him scum, and posting a couple quotes “posted without context” and that already seemed bad to me. Now you want to shorten the day instead of convincing us that Pandain is scum. Did you see my earlier post about ignoring townies who do that kind of thing? Why do you want to be ignored if you are town?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 15:40 GMT
#2173
On May 10 2019 00:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 00:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Meapak you never answered anyone, why is Pandain scum? You made the most token effort in filtering FF and calling him scum, and posting a couple quotes “posted without context” and that already seemed bad to me. Now you want to shorten the day instead of convincing us that Pandain is scum. Did you see my earlier post about ignoring townies who do that kind of thing? Why do you want to be ignored if you are town?

Lol- while in the US, it says Japan

Very subtle my good man


lol totally unintentional on my part, I changed it cause I don’t live in the U.S. anymore :p
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 15:47 GMT
#2175
On May 10 2019 00:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 00:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Meapak you never answered anyone, why is Pandain scum? You made the most token effort in filtering FF and calling him scum, and posting a couple quotes “posted without context” and that already seemed bad to me. Now you want to shorten the day instead of convincing us that Pandain is scum. Did you see my earlier post about ignoring townies who do that kind of thing? Why do you want to be ignored if you are town?

Because its way easier for me to flip town rather than fight 3 day cycles of thread sentiment and I frankly don't have the time to put in the activity you guys would require to change your minds.

And if its not Pandain (and for arguments sake lets say its not me) then who do you have? None of you have been able to make convincing arguments for Grack or Slam. You and VE spent all last night cycle trying to pick between the two and y'all came to zero conclusions. The obvious and simplest explanation is that they're both town. I think you're town (and if you're not you really had a great scum game) I've been calling for Pandain's death since like D1 but don't let me convince you, let me flip do the talking.


Sorry, I think you’re not reading nor understanding.

I’m literally telling you that if you flip town at this very moment I’m going to ignore everything you’ve written here and tell everyone to lynch grack.

You don’t have time to put in activity, fine, that’s clearly not what I’m asking for. In fact, you’re still alive despite your activity, and I for one don’t care how active you are (I even admonished HF for calling you a lurker because I didn’t think that label was correct). Just explain to the best of your ability 1. why Pandain is scum in this game and 2. What evidence you have from past games that Pandain is capable of playing like this as scum.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 17:17 GMT
#2190
I don’t think grack is scum, it’s just POE. I really don’t think Pandain nor slam are scum here.

Literally my only doubts on grack are that he called out Pandain on Vivax for some really bad reasons that equally applied to himself, and at this stage of the game he’s picking fights with me and Pandain over stuff that has been explained 50 times already. Other than those two things the vast majority of things I’ve read from grack point to him being town.

Anyway nothing MZ has said so far carries any weight. I’m happy to continue the day or shorten it, my vote is not moving from MZ.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 19:07 GMT
#2195
On May 10 2019 02:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Like it's easy for you to say Yay POE but MZ has looked scummy to me in literally every game I have played with him and you can look townie as both alignments.


What do you want me to do with this information? I don’t really understand what you want me to about this.

Look at it from my perspective. You’ve just told me that you cannot read or are not willing to read two of four players left in the game. How am I supposed to change that fact? My playstyle is not going to magically change and based on what you just said I’m sure you could find whatever reason you want to disbelieve Meapak being scum. If you’re town, come at me with something actually actionable and I’ll respond. Otherwise I find what you’re doing now to be a waste of time.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 22:58 GMT
#2198
If anyone wants to get something out of me, you’ve got about 2-4 hours where I’ll still potentially be around and see it. I’ll be driving for a good chunk of that time and I’ll be around sporadically till my second flight at 1 am PST. Then I’ll be gone for a fair amount of time.

Anyway, Meapak is not town this game. He basically cannot be town, and I don’t think I’ve seen him make a single post this entire game where my read on him markedly improved.

Here’s town Meapak, literally in the game before this:

On April 08 2019 01:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 01:02 Grackaroni wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think i will be explaining much of my reads this game. Well at least no tonight lol.

I just think the level of caring or pretending of caring from holyflare atm makes him mafia. Also ls is town but he needs to die i think or we just dont care about the alternative wincons but i dont think people can agree to that (they can say they do but still dont which os going to be stupid).



On April 06 2019 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually think we need to kill LS so i can get rid of those goddamn arabs.


On April 06 2019 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i didnt realize you are an arab too. i will handle you with my .45


Lynch all liars:

On April 06 2019 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

i do not need anyone who is town to die to win. if you do you are probably 3rd faction.


So yesterday I lazily townread rayn bc of this post:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:53 Holyflare wrote:
Am I the only one that is just fucking town and not a faction?????


I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.

Which imo felt like a natural town reaction to what are obviously some nonstandard wincons at play in this game. However he follows up with this next post about not needing anyone who is town to die.
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

i do not need anyone who is town to die to win. if you do you are probably 3rd faction.


When coupled with the posts grack quoted above, are you calling LS and Damdred scum? If you need them to die in order to fulfill whatever nonstandard wincon you have, but you also don't think you need anyone who is town to die, that means you think they're red.
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On April 07 2019 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2019 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
what specifically is so hard for him to write as mafia?

It's literally a +1 to mz

I know i am town and if TW (and mz) is town he has succesfully fucked up three of his possible mislynches for no reason. Its not a slam dunk read but yeah..


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On April 07 2019 10:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kill mz and tw.


Then we have this reads progression which HF(?) already pointed out is very strange. The first post is a soft defense of pandain insinuating he's town bc he agreed with me and called TW town. So he goes from TRing Pandain for calling us town to calling TW and I scum two hours later. The logic just doesn't flow:

Pandain calls TW & I town --> Pandain is town bc scum wouldn't give away mislynches (according to rayn)
Rayn calls TW and I scum --> If we're scum his logic for the Pandain read no longer applies.

It's inconsistent play, I'd like to hear what others think but I could get onboard a rayn lynch.


Town Meapak tries to figure out the game by citing posts and asking specific questions; his intentions are clear and even if he doesn’t take a stance he makes it easy to understand why he is saying something, what is unclear, and what he wants to do.

Compare that to literally any post in this game and you’ll see a stark difference. Meapak in this game rarely, if ever, explains reads, doesn’t seem to be earnestly trying to figure out the game (his questions are empty and often not backed up by any effort, and seem to change randomly) and his tone is far more conciliatory and indirect.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 23:08 GMT
#2200
It’ll be hard for me to be more surprised this game, I’m at peace with myself

Also thanks for confirming I’m town
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 23:11 GMT
#2201
btw Meapak did you come to a decision yet on who you’re going to call scum? I remember yesterday you were 100% convinced it was FF.

Now is it Pandain? Is he trying to drag you into LYLO still or is he trying to kill you here so he wins himself vs slam vs grack or whatever? I have so many questions Meapak
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2019 23:14 GMT
#2202
I bet you could reliably figure out Meapak’s alignment just by checking how many times he votes per cycle in a game

Bonus points for anyone who has the time to do that for a few games and report the results
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 10 2019 02:23 GMT
#2205
On May 10 2019 09:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ahh bugs it's gonna be fun to watch you be wrong.

Pandain I would still like an answer about what happens if you die instead of bugs. What advice would you give slam and grack?


ok
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 10 2019 02:41 GMT
#2208
On May 10 2019 11:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Bugs lets getcha on record, you're assuming you're gonna die tonight but if you're alive you're gonna vote to lynch grack right?


Why would I answer any of your questions if you haven’t answered a single one of mine?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 10 2019 05:01 GMT
#2212
Slam between grack and MZ why do you find MZ townier

In fact why do you find MZ second towniest wtf
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 10 2019 05:02 GMT
#2213
I’ve got about 2.5 hours btw. Flight @ 1
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 10 2019 19:53 GMT
#2248
So I just landed in Japan

What the fuck is wrong with you people
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 10 2019 19:53 GMT
#2250
MZ has slinked off while you three are fucking pissing the game away
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