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On May 08 2019 21:58 VisceraEyes wrote: idk, my opinion is that you guys are arguing about lynching the townies and backburnering the mafia Slam and it's going to bite you in the ass.
can you explain what is townie about MZ?
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Neither of you think MZ is the scummiest here and I want to know why.
My read on MZ hasn’t really changed except for by proxy. That’s always a red flag because then I can’t trace my reason for loss of confidence on that read
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On May 08 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote: MZ has stated multiple times in the thread that he's in a vault and it causes inactivity - I'm not sure if it's consistent, but I tend to not give a shit. The posts I've seen have looked townie to me, I'm not basing that on any meta, they just look like they're coming from town.
And I really HATE that you want me to make a towncase on someone the night before I'ma bout to DIE TO THE FUCKING MAFIA
I’m sorry I’m making you do work lol.
Inactivity-fine, not alignment indicative. With you there. What posts have been townie to you?
Btw we’ve only gotten this far (besides due to your shot) because we made a town circle with BC. I think identifying townies correctly is more important than scum hunting in many cases.
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sorry, I’m asking for posts because I legitly cannot reread the thread on mobile and can only follow conversationally now.
I’ll probably not be around until daypost. Since you both read MZ as town I’m going to defer to you both and sheep that read. Let’s kill grack/slam and hope we caught the scum, cause I don’t have the time nor the will to spend more effort than that
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MZ did martyr and if my gut tells me he is scum and your gut tells you he’s town, and that evidence says he’s town, l say we just go with he’s town
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Pleasure playing with you this game VE, I actually had a lot of fun especially when BC was also here. I was so sad scum shot him lol
I’ll be gone till lunch timeish here in California, maybe take a longer break than that. If anyone has any questions just reply to me when I reenter the thread cause I can’t guarantee I’ll catch everything
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If it’s me MZ and Pandain at 2v1 then I will flip a coin to determine my vote
I’m not even kidding
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MZ are you calling Pandain scum or not
Man I should really leave but this actually got super interesting again LOL
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you know MZ hasn't really been wrong about a townread this game
He townread FF off one post lol
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actually I take that back, I don't know if he had other proper town reads. Hard to tell based on his posts/what I remember. I do recall a flop on HF that seemed weird at the time but just weird. HF sort of only called him town after MZ dropped the vote and slunk off.
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ok. in that case it's just up to me to stop letting MZ get away with things on the basis of hearing lots of other people say he's town.
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like if we lynch him tomorrow he can't be in LYLO so he shouldn't complain at all about dying tomorrow right
like let's see what happens when push comes to shove
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yeah nah slam is not scum
I’m back to MZ/grack and I give grack a better chance to not be scum
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Slam look through the quote and who VE responded to there.
I find it really hard to believe that scum Pandain here could fake that, he’s potentially agreeing with a read but disagreeing with reasons, and fairly good reasons at that. If he’s scum he has no incentive to do that, there are much easier paths and he could just echo VE’s sentiment and find reasons to help confirm that bias
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On May 09 2019 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2019 21:44 wherebugsgo wrote: idk I think grack’s push on me actually makes him seem really townie.
Like if I were town in his situation and I didn’t agree with you, VE, I probably wouldn’t rule myself out as scum. Like, from that perspective I don’t think he sees a good reason to townread me because he’s aware to some degree that I can play an active scum game.
Unlike slam, who I think doesn’t have enough in the way of opinion-conveying posts, my problem on grack is that it is sometimes hard to follow the logic and rationale for his thoughts. The actual results of those thoughts aren’t my terrible.
I also recognize that a scum here would know they need to paint both myself and Pandain badly because it helps in endgame when only one of us is alive Wtf you just said that you suspected me for pushing you.
I reread and thought more about it and given I flipped my read only after you flipped yours I thought there was more to that.
I think your tone is extremely blunt in comparison to, for instance, MZ, and I think that’s a good sign you are town.
I think the Vivax thing is a red herring and just you not noticing that calling Pandain for that makes very little sense from an outside perspective (but probably as a townie you just don’t care/have the awareness for that because it would be pointless for you to think about it making you look scummy)
Anyway I’m more convinced both grack and slam are town here now and I’m down to just lynch MZ. He’s gonna have to come in here and make some good arguments and he’s conspicuously always absent. Even when he posts, he doesn’t actually help figure out the game. We all have good reasons for being afk and that’s not alignment indicative to me.
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K, me & VE & slam town
Someone pulls the short straw and has to decide between grack and Pandain at 2v1.
At 2v1 I think flipping a coin is still the best bet
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On May 09 2019 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2019 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote: MZ did martyr and if my gut tells me he is scum and your gut tells you he’s town, and that evidence says he’s town, l say we just go with he’s town ?
Both VE and Pandain saying MZ is town (and even getting a bit indignant about it) -> fine I’m wrong let’s not lynch MZ
VE flipped that read shortly after though.
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Nah I think you are town Pandain but just paranoia at this point
Like I will be really shocked if MZ doesn’t flip scum here
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Like if MZ flips town any three of you could be scum
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If I didn’t incorporate others’ opinions whatsoever, my thought would be:
Myself and VE 100% town Pandain 95% town Slam 80% town Grack 60% town Meapak 5.3fuckthisgameifI’mwrong08% town
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