• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:44
CEST 16:44
KST 23:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway13
Community News
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues23LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers? SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ alas... i aint gon' lie to u bruh... BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Borderlands 3 The PlayStation 5 Iron Harvest: 1920+
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1535 users

[N] Uninspired Mafia - Page 15

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 19:59 GMT
#2254
On May 11 2019 04:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Duly noted.

I probably should have written a case but I spent last night playing BOTW. I killed some centaur dude. It was worth it.


it's a great game.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 19:59 GMT
#2255
If I'm wrong I'm just going to crawl into a corner and die
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:00 GMT
#2258
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:01 GMT
#2260
oh my fucking god
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:01 GMT
#2261
it's over
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 20:03:31
May 10 2019 20:02 GMT
#2263
I want to see the obs QT hahahahhaa

Grack what was your strategy if you lived today? Shoot bugs and push who?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:19 GMT
#2272
Hahahahaha obsQT was calling Grack the best town player in the game. "Would be an absolute travesty if he got lynched" :D

By the way, bugs was town to me not because of "activity" but because of his genuine obvious enthusiasm. That kind of stuff can be hard to fake. It was pretty obvious to me when he was pushing HF that he genuinely thought HF was scum. Combine that with stuff like his spreadsheet, and his consistent neverending interactions trying to figure out what people thought it was a strong townread for me.

Glad we pulled this off. Really happy with my play this game, getting Koshi, Vivax, and Grack. I was only really wrong on FF.

By the way, it is weird when someone is too right. For instance, when Grack said I was easily the best player in the game still alive, it felt that way to me but definitely shouldn't have felt obvious to other people. Then when he defended HF with an absolute certainty that has got to raise alarm bells. There is a huge difference between strongly thinking someone is town and thinking there's absolutely no way he's scum.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:21 GMT
#2273
Great shot by VE.

I also think Grack would have won if he didn't get lynched that night.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:22 GMT
#2275
On May 11 2019 05:19 Pandain wrote:

By the way, it is weird when someone is too right. For instance, when Grack said I was easily the best player in the game still alive, it felt that way to me but definitely shouldn't have felt obvious to other people. Then when he defended HF with an absolute certainty that has got to raise alarm bells. There is a huge difference between strongly thinking someone is town and thinking there's absolutely no way he's scum.


To continue off this, if you're always right in a game, it's probably because you know things other players don't know....

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:23 GMT
#2278
On May 11 2019 05:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2019 05:19 Pandain wrote:
Hahahahaha obsQT was calling Grack the best town player in the game. "Would be an absolute travesty if he got lynched" :D

By the way, bugs was town to me not because of "activity" but because of his genuine obvious enthusiasm. That kind of stuff can be hard to fake. It was pretty obvious to me when he was pushing HF that he genuinely thought HF was scum. Combine that with stuff like his spreadsheet, and his consistent neverending interactions trying to figure out what people thought it was a strong townread for me.

Glad we pulled this off. Really happy with my play this game, getting Koshi, Vivax, and Grack. I was only really wrong on FF.

By the way, it is weird when someone is too right. For instance, when Grack said I was easily the best player in the game still alive, it felt that way to me but definitely shouldn't have felt obvious to other people. Then when he defended HF with an absolute certainty that has got to raise alarm bells. There is a huge difference between strongly thinking someone is town and thinking there's absolutely no way he's scum.

This is excellent townhunting advice. I tried my hardest to be cocksure and well you can see where that went lol


I thought you were town as soon as you basically said "Fuck off this is all the time I get and I do what seems best, what else do you want from me? " It both was extremely genuine and explained why you were approaching the game in a unique way (like filtering HF)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:24 GMT
#2281
FF you had some awesome moments in this game. Sorry for my bad meta read D:
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:33 GMT
#2285
Bugs you made me feel like an idiot for wanting to push away from MZ.

If he was scum I was just going to hide in a cave and probably never play another game.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 10 2019 20:35 GMT
#2286
Was really fun playing with everyone! Really also enjoyed the HF lynch even though that ended up being an absolute mess, as well as working with Bugs and VE day 3.

Thanks to the hosts! You guys are awesome.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 23:44:28
May 10 2019 21:05 GMT
#2295
Great play Grack.

Pretty much nearly got to the endgame with having one of your team be modkilled and the other shot.

On May 11 2019 05:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
Haha its fine I was experimenting a bit but it turned out i was actually just being a douche.
I'll be back for the next normal game for sure


Can't wait to play with you again.

An important lesson to be reinforced from this game is that establishing you as townie can be just as valuable as you actually finding scum. It was pretty obvious to me that Bugs was town, and I had a very strong town read on Slams (and lesser extent MZ) after my interactions with them. It was just as much process of elimination as it was a scum read on Grack which led me to push for his lynch at the end of the day.


If you are able to establish yourself as a universal town-read, you are super dangerous to mafia as the game gets to the end-game. VE also was awesome at this even before his vig shot.

It was my biggest flaw this game, I had an especially shit night/day 2 and I relied too much on my Vivax vote to help show I was town. Instead it hugely backfired, and my shit night two and inactivity helped a lot of people think I was scum despite me being on the right track most of the game. Definitely good lessons to learn.

On May 11 2019 06:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Wow Pandain I do owe you a huge apology, honestly your insistence that I was town was really scaring me haha. I wish you had been around more yesterday evening bc you almost had me sold on grack.

Well played everyone... I told you I was gonna blow your mind Bugs lol


I just couldn't see you as scum asking to be lynched two days in a row. The balls would be enormous. It was definitely possible but I didn't see it likely. I could see maybe one night, but two?

I wish I had been more active during the night, unfortunately I got really busy and I was feeling demotivated after the failed FF lynch.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 21:44:45
May 10 2019 21:42 GMT
#2299
Funnily enough Grack helps prove that my defense of myself was shit. I said I was town because I pushed Vivax and Koshi but Grack did the same thing :D

Grack the master of shenanigans and bussing.

I think there's no real good way to defend yourself just by talking about yourself. Sure, it's important to explain your past actions, but the best way to "prove" your town is just to continue scum hunting and pushing for people, not repeatedly responding to people's concerns about yourself.

I'm not sure I convinced anyone I was town until when I started really contributing day 3 and on.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 21:54:59
May 10 2019 21:52 GMT
#2304
VE I feel like your shot was especially legendary because I don't think you even posted a scum-read of Koshi in thread before you shot him.

If there aren't any new games that people are making, I might create one and have it start in a month or so. Probably just make it a normal game. I've played mafia for a long time and would love to give back in a small way and also try hosting.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 21:57:31
May 10 2019 21:57 GMT
#2308
Oh by the way Rayn, I saw that you thought my post where I said "I would never lynch Bugs and am just auto-assuming he's town" was really stupid. Yeah 100% agree with you. I didn't actually believe that. I just posted it because I wanted Bugs to keep me alive in case he was mafia.

Of course I had a strong town read on him but if he survived to the end game I was probably voting Bugs.
On May 11 2019 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 11:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel like we're just letting Koshi slide. Do we just let that happen some more? When does it become offensive?

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 11:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 03 2019 21:12 Koshi wrote:
On May 03 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i think vivax + bugs + pandain is a reasonable option for mafia.
Murder Vivax please if he is not dead come D2.

I read rayn filter and I will just be rayn 3.0.

This is because Koshi = rayn 2.0 and now I absorbed rayn 1.0.

He probably fine.



Damn you did that on purpose? Respect.
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
12:00
SC:EVO Monthly
SteadfastSC243
Rex99
IndyStarCraft 78
Liquipedia
Online Event
12:00
Galaxy Open Cup Season 2
CranKy Ducklings142
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 243
mouzHeroMarine 229
Rex 99
IndyStarCraft 78
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38823
Horang2 4976
Bisu 3585
EffOrt 1745
Larva 813
Mini 606
firebathero 410
BeSt 385
sSak 285
Soma 267
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 246
Light 217
Soulkey 183
Zeus 150
Rush 146
Mong 114
Sexy 93
Sharp 80
Aegong 77
Noble 56
ToSsGirL 49
Sea.KH 40
Yoon 29
zelot 29
Movie 25
Terrorterran 24
scan(afreeca) 23
Icarus 11
NaDa 9
SilentControl 9
IntoTheRainbow 7
sas.Sziky 2
Dota 2
The International126442
Gorgc9833
PGG 30
Counter-Strike
Foxcn561
flusha102
Other Games
gofns30491
tarik_tv24610
B2W.Neo750
DeMusliM317
Lowko308
crisheroes305
Hui .302
oskar141
Happy133
KnowMe128
Mew2King103
Liquid`VortiX98
ArmadaUGS58
RotterdaM48
FunKaTv 40
ToD26
SortOf21
QueenE21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1019
StarCraft 2
WardiTV412
Other Games
BasetradeTV12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 766
• Ler69
Other Games
• Shiphtur160
Upcoming Events
BSL Team Wars
4h 16m
RSL Revival
19h 16m
Maestros of the Game
23h 16m
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
1d 1h
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 3h
RSL Revival
1d 19h
Maestros of the Game
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
LiuLi Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.