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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 01 2019 15:57 GMT
#241
Yo pandain. Why you vote rels bro. Dont care that you did just want to know why given your posting as of late.

Also its day 1. There are players that play a really good day 1.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 01 2019 16:02 GMT
#242
Dear Mr. BloodyC0bbler,

I think Jock is a good lynch but I'm keeping my vote on Rels at the moment. This is exactly what he did in End of the World as mafia (as you and I both know), and I also don't like his only post that said "me too!". It just seemed fake to me.

Furthermore, and maybe more importantly, it pressures him to come on in and talk. I would love if more people voted him if only for this reason.


Sincerely,
Pandain
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 01 2019 16:03 GMT
#243
Thanks buddy =) As much as I have you in my town column the vote with 0 justification was well, a red blemish
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 01 2019 16:04 GMT
#244
And yeah obviously any day1 read is just that- a day one read. Even a strong read day 1 can easily change later on, and wherebugsgo could just be playing a good game. But I think it's very indicative when wherebugsgo is constantly trying to involve people (even if I think sometimes uselessly), post, do analysis, and make reads in a game where the activity is very very low.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 01 2019 16:05 GMT
#245
I'm going to point out I voted Rels many hours ago, before I looked into Jock, and I justified it when I posted.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
May 01 2019 16:06 GMT
#246
On May 01 2019 19:53 Koshi wrote:
Grack rayn and hf are the pinnacle of uselessness.

I'm going to take it as a compliment that I'm being grouped with HF and Rayn.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 01 2019 16:09 GMT
#247
On May 01 2019 07:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Pandain should actually be pretty easy to read judging from the last two games he played. He was a lot more held back in the scum game and in the town game I thought he was a pretty easy town read.


What's your read on me now Grack?
And do you have any thoughts on Rayn, he's someone I'm watching eagerly.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
May 01 2019 16:29 GMT
#248
On May 02 2019 01:09 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2019 07:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Pandain should actually be pretty easy to read judging from the last two games he played. He was a lot more held back in the scum game and in the town game I thought he was a pretty easy town read.


What's your read on me now Grack?
And do you have any thoughts on Rayn, he's someone I'm watching eagerly.

I don't have a read on you yet.

I dislike like Rayn's WBG push because Rayn is smart and always tries to get inside player's heads and thinks about their mindsets behind their posts. I don't think WBG's repeated questions about incognitos guides and irrelevant things are a scum ploy to fly under the radar. I think he's just a bit of an odd-ball especially considering his reply to the incognito question.

Also Rayn isn't really pushing his WBG scum read very hard when there's no content happening in thread... so actually I think that's pretty suspicious when thread is as dead as it is.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 01 2019 16:45 GMT
#249
Here are the things i think wherebugsgo is mafia for:

"Game starter" super useless question that is almost identical to last mafia game, guaranteed to have zero help in finding mafia regardless of what anyone answers. Apparently he actually has a scumread on MZ. That in itself is weird because MZ's opening was at worst null and there was absolutely nothing scummy in it. Second point about that is that the rest of D1 bugs has wasted onto something (aka ll the posts on jock) that could have been said in one sentence - "play or die", if that's what you want to say. He never pursues the MZ lynch further and instead makes a completely useless set of coaching posts - like hf put it - onto a different person. Hell noone even knows why he scumreads MZ and he never even cared to explain that. Does that sound townie? Because to me it doesnt. Furthermore his read on me sounds pure omgus since, let's look at it:
I actually was in agreement with some of rayn's opinions early on (#125) but on reread it seems most of the things rayn accuses me of are projections.

Here is the post in question:
On May 01 2019 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jock town
Meapak town
VE town but misguided as fuck atm
Grack maybe town

Pandain maaaaaaaaybe town. I have never played with town!Pandain lol

BC no idea
FF no idea. I originally thought he cant be scum with bugs but rhat doesnt hold. Him and grack made the stupid packt some years ago that threw me off completely so he can defs be mafia with bugs.

Bugs maybe mafia.

Who else idk.

The only thing in this post bugs can agree with is that VE is town, otherwise he is just lying. null reads should be a no factor to him, he probably doesnt think he himself is mafia in case he is town, grack like me calls jock town so none of us three should get towncred from him since he thinks the opposite. Maybe he can agree on Pandain too, yet i dont really think Pandain is town anymore. I think this post on mine should get me any towncredit ever if bugs actually thinks what he has said in the thread, yet somehow magically that happened. It makes no sense.

Rest of his accusation is just fluff and omgus that doesn't really mean anything.

Furthermore i have absolutely no idea why bugs should ever townread Grackaroni here because Grackaroni has called the person he is voting for town and said he thinks he can read Pandain (which in itself doesn't mean anything alignmentwise). There is simply no reason why Grackaroni should not be in bugs' lynch pool.

##vote wherebugsgo

So there is that. I am pretty sure jock is a mislynch and i give it maybe 5% succes rate. So i am just going to hope i am horribly wrong. Vivax might be mafia too, his only post was just a rehash of what everyone else has said in different words.
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
May 01 2019 16:49 GMT
#250
My strong towns at the moment are BC and Koshi.

Other than that I'm basically stabbing in the dark.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 01 2019 16:50 GMT
#251
On May 02 2019 01:29 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think WBG's repeated questions about incognitos guides and irrelevant things are a scum ploy to fly under the radar. I think he's just a bit of an odd-ball especially considering his reply to the incognito question.

His guide question is completely useless because no player ever comes and lies about if they have read a guide or not as mafia. Like it would have just been easier to claim he has not read the guide and justify being clueless lol. I let the whole thing play out just to see what bugs actually does with MZ and that result is what i consider scummy.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 01 2019 16:54 GMT
#252
Also Grack, i don't think your "i think i can read pandain well" assesment is correct if you're basing it on his scumgame where he jsut didn't play (at least until D3), basically. He at least used to be one of the best scumplayers on TL and definitely isn't scared to post or held back as mafia.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 01 2019 17:37 GMT
#253
It's okay for everyone to be jealous of the capital "L" in "Lean town" in BC's reads list. No one else's L was capitalized.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 01 2019 17:39 GMT
#254
OH FUCK I FAILED WBG'S "READ OP" TEST

le sigh

WBG you expected me to fail, don't lie.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 01 2019 17:57 GMT
#255
On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote:
FIXED POST

I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close.

Also this is concerning:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here.


Out of character compared to when I was mafia?


You gonna ignore my previous post?

You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions:

Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?

Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie?


Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead.

In addition to that, let's see your reads.


#1 priority as town for me is finding scum.


And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all.

You really think mafia claims this and then does the complete opposite? You'd need to be really dumb if you didn't realise this is exactly where it gets you and i wouldn't say that's a really good strategy. But it's okay, maybe the 70% of the game can talk about something else after D1 since you're gonna have your lynch.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 01 2019 18:00 GMT
#256
Especially BC whose read i find overplayed since he called jock scum because he had nnothing to offer at the time BC himself couldn't really offer anything (but i dont really know what that means regarding his affiliation). And Holyflare who hasn't really done anything that points into any direction on his affiliation.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 01 2019 18:14 GMT
#257
That's my thing though
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 01 2019 18:16 GMT
#258
On May 02 2019 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote:
FIXED POST

I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close.

Also this is concerning:
On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here.


Out of character compared to when I was mafia?


You gonna ignore my previous post?

You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions:

Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?

Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie?


Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead.

In addition to that, let's see your reads.


#1 priority as town for me is finding scum.


And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all.

You really think mafia claims this and then does the complete opposite? You'd need to be really dumb if you didn't realise this is exactly where it gets you and i wouldn't say that's a really good strategy. But it's okay, maybe the 70% of the game can talk about something else after D1 since you're gonna have your lynch.

Mafia literally does it all the time. It's precisely inherently mafia to say good things and then not do them or follow them
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 01 2019 18:18 GMT
#259
Also more importantly it's not a dumb silly contradiction that could be overlooked. It's a mindset contradiction
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 01 2019 18:18 GMT
#260
I mean he could be town perhaps even likely. Im not even voting him. But it's day 1 so do what you do
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