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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 01:48 GMT
#378
Let's all vote Holyflare for his insolence towards me, Grackaroni.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 02:04 GMT
#402
MURDER HOLYFLARE
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 02:34 GMT
#424
On April 06 2019 11:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 11:30 Eywa- wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:20 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
if this game is just a bunch of towns trying to find other towns to shoot and there's no actual mafia I'm going to be really sad

Could be 1 mafia atm might grow to more like the series itself :o

On April 06 2019 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Genoa is pretty nice to get random land in western Italy when playing Byzantium/Ottomans/Russia in EU4

So are we lynching Palmar or

It's the weekend give him some time.

LS is innocent LS town. 99.9% on this

LS is my lifelong partner.

what does this mean?

He's in love.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 02:40 GMT
#426
What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 18:20 GMT
#521
Holyflare what is your point about Damdred and factions explained for dummies.

All I see is you mentioning factions and then calling Damdred scum for thinking there could be factions.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 19:32 GMT
#533
I townread KSC for this post:

On April 06 2019 16:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning,

I've gone through the thread and will share a couple of reads.

Holyflare is my top town right now,

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On April 06 2019 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2019 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Hrm....this is interesting a bit

I think hf is correct this is at least a three faction game I think. Well sorta town might have multiple factions within itself.



nobody from my town faction says this unless they are a different faction entirely which they'd only assume from their role


Stood out to me, I have no clue about factions and names and arbics but this jumped out to me as town and showed a good amount of thought put into the game, furthermore the rant post about how his role was shit...I don't see scum doing that.

With regards to scum, I voted ff in part because some other peope said so but mostly so we could get the game going and we could stop talking about Roman history or slam's girlfriend/next victim but I can't give more than "i don't like his posting" I think Mig's pushing on him is pretty justified though.

Finally I don't like VE, it feels like it's mostly a lot of memes and jokes when the game had moved past that to an extent and didn't like his vote reasoning but the thing that struck me the most was.

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On April 06 2019 11:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Was the LS thing real or just racist?


After rayn had said something about arabs. The thing is LS had posted about arbics ~ 400 times in the thread so I don't see how you can interpret or question what Rayn said if you are reading the thread at all. Seemed bad to me.

I have small leanings either way on other players but nothing I want to specifically write about. I will probably look more into HF's circle/town and see what I agree with and then look at what rayn posts as he is generally not terrible and I can understand what he writes


The tone of this post gives me really good feels, and I like his rant post reasoning for his town read on Holyflare. He might also be right about VE. VE seems to me like he's acting a bit over the top.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 19:41 GMT
#537
I also liked Vivax/Slam's call-out of Mig's opening post.

Mig's post reads like a scum post to me for calling out things that I don't think are mafia indicative like VE saying he would be busy later in the cycle and withholding his reads for a little bit.

Also I don't like how strongly Mig comes after VE for not being contributive when the only other thing Mig has to say is that he doesn't think FF should be town read.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 19:50 GMT
#538
On April 07 2019 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 07 2019 03:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Holyflare what is your point about Damdred and factions explained for dummies.

All I see is you mentioning factions and then calling Damdred scum for thinking there could be factions.


Which point? I've made several.

My town role doesn't have a faction. It has a seemingly anti town win condition that's selfish but I win with town. No mention of any faction.

Fact he is different to me is odd/scummy.

He talked about there being at least 3 factions. That tells me his PM is either mafia or 3P.

If he was town he has no real way to think that the "faction" he is is the only faction or one of multiple. He can only know if he's not town.

Coupled with the fact he seems to be changing what he originally said the more people reveal about their roles it looks really scummy.

You were the one that mentioned factions though, so it's not some unique idea coming from Damdred.

I think Damdred has been pretty forthcoming about his role claiming to be an Arab that needs to kill Romans (Rayn), so him to think that town could be split into factions (nationalities) makes sense to me.

Actually I trust Damdred's role claim more than anyone else's so far but somehow other people are being town read for hinting at a role while Damdred openly stated his win condition and is being scum read for saying the word faction, which you were the one to bring up in the first place.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 19:57 GMT
#539
Disfo is also on my scumdar and I don't see why anyone is calling Rayn town atm.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 06 2019 23:32 GMT
#594
On April 07 2019 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Aight I'm caught up. People who are townreading LS right now, I want solid concrete reasons for it. In my opinion he has had several TMI posts.

We're not killing HF today, since most of this game played in end of the world I was hoping ppl would have learned that lesson.

What lesson did you take out of that game?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 14:39 GMT
#789
They didn't tell me this game involved reading.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 14:41 GMT
#792
On April 07 2019 23:39 Pandain wrote:
Oh what the fuck I did not notice Grack and TW vote Mig.

How did I miss that

I was the RINGLEADER.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 15:00 GMT
#803
On April 07 2019 19:43 Palmar wrote:
To clarify about Damdred.

If I'm to accept his posts at face value, I'd have to believe he has found a way to read rayn as town pretty strongly, in addition to believing he has an anti-town (ie: killing townies, because he thinks rayn is town) secondary win condition and in addition that he chose to reveal that win condition.

Aside from the fact that secondary win conditions are both rare and terrible, even if Damdred has one his optimal play as town is to just play like town and shut up about it. There is absolutely no benefit for Damdred to reveal having objectives outside of killing mafia as town.

I don't believe him.

What I think happened is Damdred is positioning himself to play as 3rd party, ie, he wants us to think he's a neutral 3rd party faction. Mafia does this all the time, it's better to be perceived as a 3rd party working on your own objectives than as mafia. Town doesn't have the same problem because it's even better to be perceived as town than 3rd party.


I don't believe him, I think he's scum.

His best excuse would probably just be that he's trolling and none of this stuff is real.

This basically never happens. I can't think of the last time mafia alluded to having secondary objectives and being a possible 3rd party at the start of the game when they aren't already under threat of being lynched. Especially in the way he says, intentionally planned to try to lay low and avoid getting negative attention.

Terrible start for Palmar imo.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 15:39 GMT
#809
On April 07 2019 23:00 disformation wrote:
though im also not really seeing the mig thing. didnt have a problem with his entry post and hes afk enough to be a coinflip atm at best?

I'm not really seeing this Grack thing... seems like an even worse lynch than Mig.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 15:44 GMT
#811
On April 07 2019 23:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 08:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On April 07 2019 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Aight I'm caught up. People who are townreading LS right now, I want solid concrete reasons for it. In my opinion he has had several TMI posts.

We're not killing HF today, since most of this game played in end of the world I was hoping ppl would have learned that lesson.

What lesson did you take out of that game?

Town needs to stop being so quick to shoot the most active voices. The lack of pressure on the lurkers allowed scum to skate by that game.

Catching up now with a splitting headache -_-

Oooh pretty good lesson actually.

I thought it was going to be people like HF/Palmar should be off limits.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 16:02 GMT
#816
On April 06 2019 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think i will be explaining much of my reads this game. Well at least no tonight lol.

I just think the level of caring or pretending of caring from holyflare atm makes him mafia. Also ls is town but he needs to die i think or we just dont care about the alternative wincons but i dont think people can agree to that (they can say they do but still dont which os going to be stupid).


On April 06 2019 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i actually think we need to kill LS so i can get rid of those goddamn arabs.


On April 06 2019 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i didnt realize you are an arab too. i will handle you with my .45


Lynch all liars:

On April 06 2019 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

i do not need anyone who is town to die to win. if you do you are probably 3rd faction.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 16:08 GMT
#818
On April 08 2019 01:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 00:56 Mig wrote:
Hf did you ever answer why you thought FF was town?


Probably not. It was because he seemed as demotivated by his role as me and he seemed genuine when he said it. Subsequently I haven't hated any of his posts and he seems forthright.

You probably have a stronger role than me lol.

Mine is weaker than VT.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 16:09 GMT
#819
All aboard the Rayn train.

Your conductor is none other than me, GRACKARONI.

Snacks will be served at half-past 5.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 16:25 GMT
#822
On April 08 2019 01:17 Mig wrote:
Grack do you have any reason besides the lynch all liars for wanting to lynch rayne?

Not really so much.

Out of the people claiming to have alternative win cons I trust him the least. The way he says it reads to me like he's using having an alternate win-con and knowing other players do too to get town cred.

On April 06 2019 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We are all kinda 3p arent we so cut the crap and wtf?


Plus just no good posts yet.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
April 07 2019 16:51 GMT
#827
The MZ post above is quite good.

I don't like that he's pushing the people that he was thinking of in terms of potential mislynches for a slightly more nuanced reason.

I would be fine with the posts if Rayn had said said that Pandain was town for making only scummy seeming players his top town reads and that scum wouldn't be bad like that but instead he's viewing it primarily from the angle of the the players being potential lynch bait... so to me it's a really bad look for him to push them after that.
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