If we're trying to kill the cultist Kelsier is the last person we want to lynch. There is no way that one guy has both a jailkeeper and cultist role in one.

And if he was the cultist and that's how his role worked, why would he ever choose Grack? Why not choose someone who could be a powerful town influence? No one was talking about Grack or wanted to lynch him. It doesn't make any sense.

Kelsier could be mafia but there's no way he's the cultist.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 18:42 GMT

#2783

And yeah the thing about untwining lovers sounds realistic. It sounds like an actual pre-made, thought out idea.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 18:43 GMT

#2784

And if you're okay with lynching him because he's probably mafia anyway (not sure about that), you should lynch Sentinel beforehand anyway. Absolutely everyone has a wonky role here but he happens to have a normal role? And his filter is terrible.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 18:49 GMT

#2785

Slam what you thinking?

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

April 13 2019 19:58 GMT

#2786

well the thing is. scum somehow converted grack. that 100% happened regardless of what anyone says.
100% scum did convert someone last night. that also 100% happened. so palmar should not be able to use a convert.

leaves us with sent and ksc,
at least one of those is scum and one of them is def the recruiter.
neither of them looks town.
sent very much lied about his role.
ksc might have lied about his role.

also ksc is voting sent, sent is voting someone random

its possible sent is trying to get lynched over ksc to give them one more chance to recruit someone

unfortunately it is not a 100% safe bet

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 20:01 GMT

#2787

It's also extremely likely sentinel will just show up last second and vote Kelsier/whoever is the next person.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 20:03 GMT

#2788

I agree with your analysis but I don't understand how it leads you to stay on KSC. Like if KSC converted people through jailing them, he could have picked way better people than Grack. That's not a question of different philosophies, it just doesn't make any sense from a mafia perspective.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 20:04 GMT

#2789

I hate the fact that Sentinel threw away his vote and Slam hasn't voted yet despite being here.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 20:04 GMT

#2790

Makes me feel uneasy about all of this

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

April 13 2019 20:13 GMT

#2791

On April 14 2019 05:03 Pandain wrote:
I agree with your analysis but I don't understand how it leads you to stay on KSC. Like if KSC converted people through jailing them, he could have picked way better people than Grack. That's not a question of different philosophies, it just doesn't make any sense from a mafia perspective.

Whoever converted grack makea no sense based on what townies know so thats a dumb argument.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 20:16 GMT

#2792

It only makes sense from a townie perspective. KSC had a win condition about "Untangling lovers", grack stated he was in love so he targeted him.

It completely makes sense and is completely logical.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 20:17 GMT

#2793

Rayn you're completely tunneled. I wouldn't be surprised at all if one of FF or disinfo is converted and joining you.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

April 13 2019 20:20 GMT

#2794

rayn did unclaim being converted imo

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 20:21 GMT

#2795

Rayn is actually almost certain to stay town until he gets shot. Mafia would never risk converting him.

It's the one consistent in this game.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

April 13 2019 20:23 GMT

#2796

Disinfo if you change your vote you can guarantee a sentinel lynch no matter the rest of the votes, as long as VE and Kelsier don't change.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

April 13 2019 20:28 GMT

#2797

yeah, aware.
dont like that the vote is 3-3 and slam hasnt voted and sent has an irrelevant vote.

semi-afk though. should be around 30mins b4 deadline to think about it once more.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

April 13 2019 20:33 GMT

#2798

I'm not moving. Sent obv maf. We deal with the the rest after.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

April 13 2019 20:40 GMT

#2799

see my problem is that i really really want to hit the recruiter.
and i think its more likely for ksc to be the recruiter?
like how the fick did they recruit grack if ksc isnt the recruiter?

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

April 13 2019 20:42 GMT

#2800

or did they seriously give town a role that reverts the alignment of ppl they remove from the game?