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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2019 14:45 GMT
#1861
On March 04 2019 23:30 Palmar wrote:
go after mocsta -> threatens to kill himself
go after conversion -> leaves the game

I may have a problem.


You’re not the problem. Neither is HF.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 04 2019 14:46 GMT
#1862
Anyways I'm on like page 80 something right now. I think I'm gonna mayor Palmar even if I'm his best bet on a lynch bc I like the cut of his jib
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 04 2019 14:48 GMT
#1863
On March 04 2019 23:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 23:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:28 Vivax wrote:
If you're town here's what you're going to do:

You accept your swift merciful death and thank us for relieving you from your duties in a busy week irl.
You try to find oddities in the peeps pushing for your lynch and/or summarize for us why MZ should be the next lynch, cause that seems to be your only scumread atm.

I'll honor your contributions, take them into consideration and if found worthy carry on your will throughout the game.

Very town. I also always say these things when I am town and convinced. Cool stuff.

Koshi how do you feel about rolling town?

Very good thank you for asking. Being mafia is always a burden on my life. I eat, sleep and live less happy when I am still alive in a game as mafia. But now I am happy and I can do my thing.

Life is good.


Side story. I had soccer yesterday and I went to the MacDo drive in after with gf and asked for a cheeseburger, paid the 1.5 euro for the cheeseburger, but instead got a double cheeseburger. And I told my gf that this was the sign of a good week. And today I rolled town.

Coincidence? I think not.
I had a good night of sleep.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18410 Posts
March 04 2019 14:49 GMT
#1864
On March 04 2019 23:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 23:36 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who are the scum on your wagon acro has to be one or two at least no?

Oats, duh.

Not a big fan of mocsta, damdred or rayn either, and FF is meh. In fact, you are in general not in good company, because it is literally you, Tumblewood (haven't filtered enough to have an opinion on, but didn't find much worth commenting on last time I looked) and a bunch of scummy fucks right now. If we are to judge one by the company he keeps, you're in real trouble.

So the whole wagon is basically scum. are you even trying to think?

Not scum. Just scummy. It's ok. We can only lynch one person today, and that person probably isn't even on my wagon, because nobody wants to lynch Oats

Anyway, you're right. But I don't know how you think that makes Oats look better. He has been taking potshots at me all day in the thread, but hasn't put his vote where his mouth is. Because people actually look at the vote switching later in the game.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18410 Posts
March 04 2019 14:50 GMT
#1865
On March 04 2019 23:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 23:44 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:28 Vivax wrote:
If you're town here's what you're going to do:

You accept your swift merciful death and thank us for relieving you from your duties in a busy week irl.
You try to find oddities in the peeps pushing for your lynch and/or summarize for us why MZ should be the next lynch, cause that seems to be your only scumread atm.

I'll honor your contributions, take them into consideration and if found worthy carry on your will throughout the game.

Very town. I also always say these things when I am town and convinced. Cool stuff.

Koshi how do you feel about rolling town?

Very good thank you for asking. Being mafia is always a burden on my life. I eat, sleep and live less happy when I am still alive in a game as mafia. But now I am happy and I can do my thing.

Life is good.


Side story. I had soccer yesterday and I went to the MacDo drive in after with gf and asked for a cheeseburger, paid the 1.5 euro for the cheeseburger, but instead got a double cheeseburger. And I told my gf that this was the sign of a good week. And today I rolled town.

Coincidence? I think not.

I think we should lynch you because you think McD cheeseburgers are worth eating. So much so that you're happy when you get a double cheeseburger for free.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 04 2019 14:55 GMT
#1866
also rereading MZ's "defense" against me he still doesn't explain why oats throwing shit against a wall is enough justification for him to drop him in his lynch list, instead of going like "the fuck is this shit you're throwing against a wall?" but whatever
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 04 2019 14:58 GMT
#1867
who the fuck does Oats want to lynch anyways? I scanned through his filter and all he's done is fling shit on a wall and not push anyone, and ended with "I wanna lynch Acro"
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 04 2019 15:02 GMT
#1868
I'll be back around lunchtime to post a bit during a lunch break for the interview hopefully

I want to reread: Oats, Wiggles before the day ends

unless someone has a case on Oats already in which case I can read their case + his filter.

bbl
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2019 15:08 GMT
#1869
The OP inaccurately stated that the game does not allow replacements. This was intended to reflect that replacements will be be granted, if available, for valid reasons up until night two. The OP has been updated accordingly. Sorry about that.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 04 2019 15:10 GMT
#1870
Palmar

What do make of acro's most recent responses. He calls his whole wagon scummy but doesn't really draw a conclusion from it.

He still doesn't "know " if I'm town despite my extreme aggressiveness and if anyone knows my meta its super obvious im town.

Like to me I'm thinking he's not really trying to figure out alignments.

Like if I'm in his spot he would have to think there is a scum or 2 on his wagon but seems to want to go on oats who is kind of eh.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 04 2019 15:14 GMT
#1871
On March 04 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that


What are you talking about?

He either copied a pm from the host or forged one:

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 03:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 04 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah, but Sentinel what does YOUR role pm say?

On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm VT btw



Yeah but YOURS.

On March 04 2019 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
You're VT btw


I responded to your joke with a joke.

On March 04 2019 18:19 Palmar wrote:
I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that.


I made this argument first btw.

On March 04 2019 18:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm VT btw

Now apologize for playing anti town.

I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page.

Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you.


He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority.

Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here:

a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it.
b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers".

I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this.

Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side.


I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today.



No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town.

It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b).

Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is

c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role.

I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah.

I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c).

Between making a case on me based on your own insecurities and having a townread on two of the scummiest players in the game I'm starting to wonder if you're scum.

On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 19:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really.


It's a meta/tonal read based on knowing Damdred.

I can't be arsed going back to ensure I have the turn of events exactly right but something like this happened:

Some people were kinda suspicious of LS
I thought LS was pretty much being LS and looking pretty ok/town
Read along towards Damdred casually claiming masons with LS
Infer that what Damdred really means is he townreads LS (it was obviously a joke claim)

So Damdred made the same read I did, and made a ridiculous claim as a defense of LS because to him (Damdred knows LS very well) it's pretty obvious this isn't mafia LS, at least not obvious mafia LS.

It's both the way in which he made the claim, and the fact that his read matched with mine. I like Damdred's tone in other posts as well. I think his "kill from within" town cycle comment had the right amount of funny to not be a mafia trying too hard etc.

You're going to have to explain to me like I'm 5 years old because you're the third player in this game that made some implicit assumption LS is town based on his earlier posts and then built everything off of that.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 04 2019 15:16 GMT
#1872
On March 03 2019 11:01 Conversion wrote:
I’m going to bed, but @MrWiggles telling me I didn’t do fuck all but stray away my point on MZ.. what?

I was literally advocating going away from the point until Vivax kept pushing for answers? Are you on drugs?


I just read Conversion's filter and it's like 90% about MeapZ. He even claims he wants to "go away from that point" yet continues to harp on it afterwards. I've been waiting for him to say something about ANYONE else in the game and the only other name he's thought of mentioning is Oats


On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today.

did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?”

if not I’d like to lynch him


On March 04 2019 23:31 Conversion wrote:
re: MZ

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
mocsta posted one post and peaced ~~ possibly town,

iamp is putting in way too much effort to be town

tictock is reaching real far for their reads

Acro actually is a lawyer and lawyers should be lynched cause they are bad men

HF too serious to be town

Ace actually posted the worst idea ive ever seen what was that nonsense

These are... not great reasons lol.

I also don't like iamp but more because of his useless posting.
Acro and HF are town for me.
I wanted to hear more about your conversion read but after seeing this post I'm not so sure I want to be disappointed again.


Yet oats doesn't feature in your 3 want to lynches?

I mean I wouldn't be upset with an oats lynch but I think that Grack or iamp are better choices. Plus he has conversion as scum which I agree with so that pushes him down my priority list.


what the fuck is this post? if you agree with someone that I am scum, why am I not in your lynch list and why aren’t you pushing for it?


Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 23:59 Conversion wrote:
On March 03 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
mocsta posted one post and peaced ~~ possibly town,

iamp is putting in way too much effort to be town

tictock is reaching real far for their reads

Acro actually is a lawyer and lawyers should be lynched cause they are bad men

HF too serious to be town

Ace actually posted the worst idea ive ever seen what was that nonsense

These are... not great reasons lol.

I also don't like iamp but more because of his useless posting.
Acro and HF are town for me.
I wanted to hear more about your conversion read but after seeing this post I'm not so sure I want to be disappointed again.


Yet oats doesn't feature in your 3 want to lynches?

I mean I wouldn't be upset with an oats lynch but I think that Grack or iamp are better choices. Plus he has conversion as scum which I agree with so that pushes him down my priority list.


what the fuck is this post? if you agree with someone that I am scum, why am I not in your lynch list and why aren’t you pushing for it?


also you found that Oats was good to agree with because he put one post with a bunch of votes that included me and said “not town?”


dude doesn't want to lynch oats because oats scumreads me like he (MZ) does, but doesn't push it any further. has 1 scum read that he doesn't pursue very hard, and then makes a giant fucking google docs post just tracking reads and painting it green/red

also oats reason for scumreading me was a giant fucking useless post of quoting a bunch of votes and going "not town" and he refuses to acknowledge that it's a pretty dumb reason to agree that someone is sharing your scumread based on that


I think you just described your filter.

On March 04 2019 23:39 Conversion wrote:
I just read MZ's reply to me and 50% of him is just ad hominem about how I can't read or how I'm dumb

fun stuff and this is the shit you guys want me to catch up on lmao


On March 04 2019 23:55 Conversion wrote:
also rereading MZ's "defense" against me he still doesn't explain why oats throwing shit against a wall is enough justification for him to drop him in his lynch list, instead of going like "the fuck is this shit you're throwing against a wall?" but whatever



I'd be down for a Conversion lynch. His filter is a vast expanse of vagueness outside of MZ. His read hasn't developed or changed. He hasn't even seemed interested in pursuing any other leads.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 04 2019 15:17 GMT
#1873
On March 04 2019 16:57 ExO_ wrote:
I do not understand why Palmar is leading the mayor votes based on what I've read so far.

I've got sleep but I'll be back later -- going to dive the people mayor voting Palmar.


Agreed, especially considering his policy mayor lynch definitely shouldn't be lynched anymore. If anything, LS is a good mayor lynch at this point
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 04 2019 15:19 GMT
#1874
On March 04 2019 16:43 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 16:41 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:38 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:31 ExO_ wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?


Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point.


HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory.

It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town.

And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So.

I mostly agree with you.

Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one...


Thoughts on Palmar then?

I liked his strong drive for policy lynching sentinel. I'm a bit concerned about his lack of any follow up since his pressure worked to get sentinel to read his PM and actually play a bit. I'm still cutting him for mayor as I sure as fuck aren't cutting to get myself killed by HF.


Is he who you think would make the best mayor, or just the mayor you want so you don't die?

If you could pick anybody other than yourself to be mayor, who would it be?

Right now? Holyflare if he didn't want me dead.


So HF wants you dead, but you're sure HF is town? If you are Town, isn't him wanting you dead a sign he might not be town? Explain why you think he's town if you're also town.


This post is basically asking Acro to explain Mafia 101: "just because someone is wrong about me doesn't make them mafia"

This is a bad post and seems to be asking this question for the sake of looking useful
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 04 2019 15:20 GMT
#1875
Palmar gonna get mayor lynched

For real though fuck flight delays I'm stuck in the airport forever.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
March 04 2019 15:24 GMT
#1876
On March 05 2019 00:20 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar gonna get mayor lynched

For real though fuck flight delays I'm stuck in the airport forever.


Do you really want to turn the first promising game in ages into a goddamn shithole by doing something that idiotic?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
March 04 2019 15:26 GMT
#1877
If I sound angry it's cause I would indeed be angry as fuck if Palmar died like that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 04 2019 15:27 GMT
#1878
On March 05 2019 00:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 00:20 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar gonna get mayor lynched

For real though fuck flight delays I'm stuck in the airport forever.


Do you really want to turn the first promising game in ages into a goddamn shithole by doing something that idiotic?


I think he's mafia. I also think that's exactly the reason his mayoral wagon gained any traction whatsoever. Why would I not want to lynch my mafia read and give the most information to the game possible?

Before I said anything he hadn't even had a real scum read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 04 2019 15:28 GMT
#1879
If you don't like it then don't vote me for mayor and campaign against me. Simple as that mister.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
March 04 2019 15:30 GMT
#1880
I think you should cancel the flight, go to a coffee shop and try something else than what you've been smoking so far.

Who the fuck is supposed to be mafia on the Palmar for mayor wagon?
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