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On March 04 2019 20:31 Palmar wrote:I don't like Conversion's filter. I especially hate this post: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today.
did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?”
if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post.
As a follow up:
I'm changing my vote to Conversion.
Mafia don't reveal themselves with every post they make. It's usually just a few mistakes. This post is a very, very obvious mafia mistake.
@rayn, could you be a dear and tell me I'm real smart for this?
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On March 04 2019 20:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2019 20:07 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 20:05 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 19:35 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 19:27 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 19:20 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote:
Acro, wave, oats, rayn, chez, ls, mocsta(?) (+a shit tonne of others that elude me) will be the lynch today. There's really so many people I could easily lynch and just not care tbh. Acro is town. Wave, oats I'm on board with. Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out.
Chez also a no. He seems fine. LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch. Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow. Mate you really are mafia lol ? He's pointing out you seem to have switched opinions on rayn I have. The longer rayn goes without shitting up the thread the more I suspect him of scummy shenanigans. That's not to say scumrayn isn't an abusive asshole. He's generally more tunnelly as scum than as town, at least in my obviously imperfect recollection. But rayn is being uncharacteristically passive and the longer it goes the more I suspect him. Town rayn shits up the thread trying to find scum. Scum rayn shits up the thread for the sake of shitting up the thread. But rayn never doesn't shut up the thread. New behavior is weird. And probably scum weird. Why does rayn's activity have anything to do with his alignment? Palmar should also know this, and it's why he's mafia because it's a poor excuse to scum read rayn when there's plenty of other reasons to. Rayn works long hours so often goes long times without activity. The last thing he did when he was here was shit up the thread. This is a poor flip flop acro. Rayn did quickly defuse when I was arguing with him though, although some of it may be my reluctance to engage in the argument with him. I don't know what it means. Yeah i tried to actually talk with you when you asked me to, then you never answered anything but with nonsense posts and then left.. So there is that. well you were gearing up for a shitstorm, and I'm trying to stay away from those by walking away from situations where I want to yell at people.
That is completely made up interpretation of the situation. I was being polite and shit and these are the last things i asked you before you fucking off:
On March 03 2019 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar, if you are town, go seriously read Acrofales' filter and actually look at what he says. Then look at his case on Grackaroni and read the posts after that again.
On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all there is no figuring out if your policy lynch is ideological or scum, because its ideological regardless of your affiliation. I am not arguing lynching Sentinel is a bad thing i just dont come to games participating into policy lynches on people who dont post or dont read their role pm, because they should not join the games in the first place and should just fuck off and get modkilled. I play because i want to play and lynch mafia and there is no way to tell if those people are mafia or not.
I feel like the whole first chapter is full of nonsense because it doesn't really say anything. Second chapter also doesn't say anything because Sentinel isn't playing, it's like saying "i wouldn't call you mafia if you were more town".
Another thing;
Do you think a guy who jumps guns blazing on people who jokingly (or not) claim mafia at the start of the game can somehow thing it is less suspicious to fake claim masons than to say that they are not actually masons? I mean like if your principles that strong on stuff like that (like for example you and your policies) how on earth does it makes sense the guy who is telling the truth is more worth questioning than the guy who is lying? I call big big BS on Meapak's stuff on that.
On March 03 2019 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Damdred claimed masons and i don't believe that was an obvious joke for Meapak because i am assuming he doesn't know either Damdred or LS. The worst part is that when i asked why did he question LS for telling the truth instead of the liar Damdred he said it wasn't actually for that but for something else, which doesn't make any sense because if you want to question something else then why don't you ask it in the first place instead of some completely useless question? LS answered him and he never followed up with his suggested "what i was really after" posting until i accused him.
In the second post i answer to your response to the first one. We disagree but nowhere i am gearing up to a shitstorm. You literally said nothing in your post towards acro except that you basically confessed you had a townread on him based on shit things and that you hadn't actually read him at all and apparently weren't even willing to do that.
So mr. Palmar now you are just lying.
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But it's okay because you're mafia.
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iamp please tell these idiots what's right and what's wrong. I gotta work in like well.. now, and i wont be home until after deadline. Unfortunately my work is actual work and not one where you can play mafia like half of the time.
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On March 04 2019 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That is completely made up interpretation of the situation. I was being polite and shit and these are the last things i asked you before you fucking off:
Actually, turns out you are correct.
I guess I was really angry at you for once again doing the thing I hate you doing, which is basically "town/scum palmar would never/always do this". You do this every game and are almost always wrong.
So yeah, I really thought I needed to ignore you because of an imminent shitstorm (hence the "throwing chairs" comment). I guess I was projecting my annoyance towards you.
I'm sorry bro, you were fine. Wrong, but fine.
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darthfoley's filter isn't great either.
can someone please respond to the point I brought up about Conversion, I think it's a great point.
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Am I the only one who didn't find the palmar - - - >mocsta intsraction rude at all?
The shit people used to get away with on TL mafia by comparison....?
I'm so confused by some of the behaviour here.
Anyway not relevant to much.
Hf in what world is palmar scum here? Antagonizing a bunch of people (whether meaning to or not) taking firm control of town---there is zero reason for scum to do any of this, or give up position on easy mislynches from a mayor position (assuming sentinel is town, for example).
Take his right/wrongness out of the equation. Pobodys nerfect.
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My defense, and the case on a completely null Lamperfection.
Pregame banter, but why are we not doing this?
On February 27 2019 10:18 iamperfection wrote:
we are lynching onegu day 1 for killing tl mafia just so everyone is aware.
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On March 04 2019 06:41 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 06:40 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 06:38 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 06:36 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 06:21 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 06:17 Acrofales wrote:
I'm here and caught up. There's a few posts in specific that I want to respond to, but in general:
1. Iamp is an idiot. He makes a case on me every game and it's always really bad. I will respond in more detail when I get to it, but his whole case is dumb. For starters, neither sicklucker nor oats are lurkers. Moreover, I quite obviously excluded the real lurkers. I want to kill the people who are popping into the thread, not contributing and fucking off. Not the people who weren't here at all. Iamp wanting to lynch me for dumb shit isn't new, and he's always wrong. He eats out of my hand when I'm scum and wants to lynch me when I'm town. And this is all I remember about him from 5 years ago. It's always fun. I'll decide later whether this was a scummy push, though. He hasn't done much of use other than his "case" on me, whcih he started before I had even gotten into this thread proper. Anyway, I don't think he is a good lynch target for D1. He usually starts to see the light eventually when he's town, and if he isn't, we can kill him tomorrow. Better stuff to do today.
2. No longer want to kill Sent. But the reason Palmar gets the votes is because he was clear and concise about his aims, whereas HF had many different goals. Now that sent claims he read his PM, and has actually started playing a bit, I don't think he's a good kill anymore. @Palmar: do you still plan on murdering sent?
3. I'm still quite happy with Palmar for mayor, his posts have been townie enough for me and I trust him to find scum a lot more than I do HF.
4. Lets lynch Oats. I'm on board with damdred, but he promised to contribute in 10 mins, so I'll give him until then. Oats has given no sign he has read the thread beyond looking for stuff to troll and throw out random names. Grackaroni has managed to look a bt more townie in his posts today. He pulled himself together and he is totally buddying me and I'm falling for it. Deal with it. i dont think ive ever made a case on you what are you talking about lol Maybe not a case, but you always call me scum. what do you think of holyflare Probably town. give a real read on me filter dive me
Your wish is my command, my dear luminary.
The ugly:
On March 02 2019 12:45 iamperfection wrote:
the only thing i gathered of note from the first few pages is that holyflare had the same reaction as me to them.
which was:
On March 02 2019 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jesus christ what a boring couple of pages you guys came up with. Just circles.
But for some reason, when I have the same sentiment a few pages later (but a different response to it), my post is godawful terrible. For no apparent reason. The only real difference is that I make it clear I don't want to deal with that shit for the rest of the game, whereas HF just calls it boring (and reading between the lines: pointless).
You know what else is pointless? Namecalling:
+ Show Spoiler [petty shit] +On March 02 2019 14:56 iamperfection wrote:
i dont know about Meapork its possible i guess. On March 02 2019 16:15 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 15:56 Tictock wrote:On March 02 2019 14:57 iamperfection wrote:
like if he is mafia he did make a mess of those first few pages
Awkward Mafia is awkward? I see where you are coming from, but personally he is still my strongest scum read. What do you make of ppl like Jock, Grack, and Mr Wiggles? 2 havent really posted might as well ask me about someone who hasnt posted yet. Jockstrap had a post i didnt like
Lamp is antagonizing people by instead of abbreviating their names, just changing them to something vaguely derogatory for no apparent reason? I think I will keep calling him Lamp after all, because perfect he is not. Petty? Yes.
The bad:
The case on me is utter shit. And the way he pushes it doesn't feel like he's interested at all. Basically, it feels like he latched onto *someone* and didn't care who, made a case and then pushed it for the sake of pushing it. Not for the sake of actually finding a scummer and lynching mafia, but for the sake of gaining standing with town and pushing a lynch. The case is just really bad, so I'll go through it point by point to show you all how dumb you are for sheeping it. He is very explicitly cherrypicking posts, pulling them out of context and placing them in a bad light:
+ Show Spoiler [details] +On March 04 2019 03:56 iamperfection wrote:
Acrofails is mafia.
Haha, namecalling again. You so funny. Nobody has ever called me that before. But usually when I actually fail. I have mentioned his first post but i will mention it again because it makes my case longer and you guys like cases longer so it is easier for you to sheep Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. Playing thread cop when announcing that your going to be away is illogical especially for someone like acro. This is a person that has had a 50 page filter before and he was also full of shit he has come back to the thread to post drivel several times. It also shows he isn't reading the thread correctly because he is scum. Thoses " claims" were clearly jokes and acro cant understand that because he knows who is scum. 1) Mafia don't suddenly lose their sense of humor, and a scum me would be far less triggered by such a shitty start to the thread: town shitting up the thread would suit me just fine. And if it were my scummates, I'd happily bus them later. You yourself called it boring. What is it? Funny joke hijoles? Or boring? Also, what does my 50-page filter in Chrono trigger have to do with anything? I very very rarely post non-game content, including that 50-page filter you are accusing me of. I also haven't posted drivel. What crack are you smoking? This entire blurb is disingenuous nonsense. But hey, Lamp being bad wouldn't surprise me, I did have him eating out of my hand as a dark red mafioso in GoT mafia, so he has no idea how to read me.
He is also making reads but they aren't really reads.
It's D1. Nobody except scum is sure about alignments. So yes, I have soft reads. They change a lot as I make up my mind. And on top that, it's a big game, so I don't keep track of exactly what everybody said when. So when HF got in a fight with Oats and then wanted to lynch him, I seriously had forgotten all about that. I only remembered reading the interaction and finding it not terribly convincing on HF's side, despite agreeing on the end conclusion that Oats is scum, his reasons seemed silly. Anyway, I digress, back on point. I have mostly soft reads: On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-
Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic? 100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor. Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.
Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.
I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever. Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game. I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all. HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:
You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.
And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree. Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch. #540Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now: Meap Grack Jock Mr. Wiggles Acro Bloddy HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it. I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post. 1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material. 2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive. 3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications. Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too. Does he think rsoultin is mafia i dont know can you tell? i certainly cant he is just showing shade without taking any real stance. Mafia hate making real reads because its hard when you have to "make them up" . Same think with cobbler he makes a somewhat read but its nothing if you really read. I wasn't reacting with reads on rsoultin, I was reacting to ticktock wanting her for mayor, which I thought was premature. I didn't have a strong read on rsoultin either way. So... you're right, I guess? I couldn't tell if rsoultin was mafia. Well done! I was mostly just disagreeing with ticktock wanting her for mayor. I didn't think her reads were particularly good at the time, and her pushes seemed tepid. This was a real read, it just wasn't a very decisive one, because I simply hadn't made up my mind. Cobbler's one (or two?) posts at the time seemed solidly townie, but there just wasn't enough content. How is this a problem?
He then goes into coaching and then makes a scum read but has to add some nonsense he dosent really want to convince anyone to do anything really.
Yeah, I've done some coaching. I'd rather coach people I think are town, but wrong than nail them to the cross as you'd apparently prefer? What is your problem with coaching? And as for that last line, I clearly do what to convince people of some things: I wanted people to look into Grack, as I thought he had a really bad thread presence at the time. I wanted Sentinel dead because of his dumbass shit. I think I made both those viewpoints very clear, yet you omit this completely from your "case". It just hangs together from cherrypicked posts that you then gave the worst possible interpretation to. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:On March 03 2019 16:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.
Summary of the night:
##mayor Palmar zzz this is why the sent push is pointless Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders. And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town. 36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy. And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit? Though props for not being that guy at least. People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO. Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information. Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above. Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1. This post is ultra scummy. His stance on palmar reeks of having extra information one way or another. Palmar saying he is going to just policy lynch and fuck off should be called out by acro but instead he takes a wait and see approach because he dosent really care how it turns out. Acro is good player and he should be shitting on palamr for saying he is going to fuck off. Instead he says we will figure it out but dosent really suggest how to do it. Shouldnt he be puhing palmar now? why wait. he dosent really want to figure out palmars alignment because he already knows what it is. No. You're wrong. not really pushing anything and has several other posts where he attacks low hanging fruit just to feign activity. Acro is mafia and that is who i will vote for. I want all of you to comment on my case and vote acro. Since when is low-hanging fruit bad? The fact that we agree that they are low-hanging fruit should make you ecstatic. These guys are playing a scummy game and we agree on it! Low-hanging fruit needs to be lynched immediately! Yet somehow agreeing that these guys looked like utter scummy trash was a bad thing? This doesn't make sense. Iamp is either really bad or I stumbled upon a nest of his scumbuddies. Why the hell would anybody want to go after high profile players D1 unless they had some really serious ironclad suspicions of their scumminess. None of them had, including Lamp himself. Since then, I'm getting a bit less optimistic on some. BH for instance can go DIAF as far as I'm concerned after doing nothing useful all weekend. But at the time, I explicitly excluded anybody with an excessively low postcount, because I don't want to lynch into an unknown. I want to lynch scum. I also excluded anybody whose filter I read and came with at least something of a townie vibe. And I didn't have time to justify this list, but figured filters would allow inquisitive townies to at least dive in and see if they agreed. I posted my reasoning when I got back and was asked for it.
Then his follow-up isn't interested in a discussion. It's only interested in getting sheep on the wagon. He's not trying to investigate whether I'm scum, but trying to crucify me on the cross:
rsoultin was sorta convinced but not completely, so iamp says:
On March 04 2019 04:04 iamperfection wrote:
i dont like your reaction to my case it struck me as fake
Note the lack of questioning: just instead shade.
On March 04 2019 04:05 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 04:04 Damdred wrote:
I like your case and it seems you believe it after all... is that a vote?
Aka: "don't talk. just hop on the wagon and don't think too hard about it".
And a bunch more of such posts. There is no drive for conversation. It's a great play to stop scumhunting and start piling on a wagon... over 30 hours before day ends. Why stop conversation and start whipping. It's not even majority vote, it's plurality lynch so you literally don't have to whip everybody into shape early out of risk of a no-lynch. Someone is gonna get dedded. So why stifle conversation and start the whipping so early, unless it's to literally control the conversation and stop the scumhunting.
The good:
These posts seem like instinctively right reactions from someone who wants to figure out people's alignments. It's the easiest type of play to fake as scum, but they come off as genuine, which does make it a lot harder as scum. They also mostly echo my own reactions when I read the posts in question for the first time:
+ Show Spoiler [Good posts] +On March 02 2019 14:41 iamperfection wrote:
ticktock posts seem real to me On March 04 2019 04:20 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 04:19 Damdred wrote:
I have no pew pew left in my gun right now.
Truthfully I am sort of playing on feels right now, perfections case feels right, in that it makes sense and it seems he believes it enough to push it.
I think his approach right now is townie at least. oh dude your scum arent you lol. On March 04 2019 05:48 iamperfection wrote:
feel free to vig blazinghand btw On March 04 2019 05:52 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 05:49 LightningStrike wrote:
I calmed down enough to just switching my mayor vote to iamp his case seems solid enough. Wont post for the rest of the day phase/night phase
Bye your so full of shit. You really raged from like the softest pressure ever?? bs On March 04 2019 07:12 iamperfection wrote:
cant tell if exo being ultra bad or ultra scum
The unanswered:
Couldn't find the context for this. Who are you talking about?
On March 03 2019 02:09 iamperfection wrote:
his posting is completely different than his last game where he was town.
Maybe we should try to make him cry again and see if he posts his role pm.
The conclusion:
I know, after all this you all really want me to come out and say Lamp is scum, but I don't feel at all confident that that is the case, and am definitely not pushing a Lamp lynch today. His case and the push is really bad. But it could be just that. A confused, bad, townie that thought he had caught a big fish. I thought Lamp was better than that, but going after my games with him showed me he really isn't that good. It's possible he got excited, started his "wagon of justice" prematurely based on an excessively bad, cherrypicked, case. Or it's possible he did so as scum with the sole purpose of having something to do. I'm not seeing why Palmar has a strong townread on him. But there's enough good in his filter to not have a strong scumread either. All I can say is I wish that, if Lamp is town, he was less bad.
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On March 04 2019 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp please tell these idiots what's right and what's wrong. I gotta work in like well.. now, and i wont be home until after deadline. Unfortunately my work is actual work and not one where you can play mafia like half of the time.
You have your vote parked on me, you derp.
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I have not read the last 1954 messages.
I did read my role pm and it said town.
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On March 04 2019 21:07 Palmar wrote:
darthfoley's filter isn't great either.
can someone please respond to the point I brought up about Conversion, I think it's a great point.
I think it's on par with my point.
Let's kill him.
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I really appreciate the way you wrote that by the way but "Conversion asks in the round if MZ answered and if not he'll let it be known that he's scumreading him" might have been a blunter, more understantable type of argument.
I prefer the mace type of argument over the poisoned daggers you throw out. They are much more fun to read though.
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So let's pile some votes on Conversion please.
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I'm also interested in people who do not want to lynch Conversion and why.
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Koshi is a tip top town player and one of the best that played on this site. It has been an honour and a privelage to all people who were able to play games with him.
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##unvote: acro
I stopped scum reading him from #1416 onwards. Fingers in multiple pies, and consistent thought process throughout 3-4 of his 5 pages. Too much uncertainty/effort for mafia.
I only played one scum game with iamp and he literally trolled the whole time. I recall that was what he was known for.
Thats enough for me to give him a pass Day1 whether the case was good or bad.
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On March 04 2019 22:11 Palmar wrote:
I'm also interested in people who do not want to lynch Conversion and why.
Well he's gone quiet recently which is a bit interesting but in that early exchange MZ came across much more scumlike to me. He was poking but in a weird way and conversion reacted defending himself.
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hmmm. Im not keen on my unvote. I didnt have a problem with oats, and hes now 2nd wagon.
acro - you were iffy on trfel. you still prefer oats > trfel?
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On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-
Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic? 100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor. Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.
Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.
I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever. Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game. I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all. HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:
You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.
And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree. Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch. #540Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now: Meap Grack Jock Mr. Wiggles Acro Bloddy HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it. I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post. 1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material. 2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive. 3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications. Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.
Acrofoles is not mafia because he said that he doesnt agree with the post but liked it a lot. This is a clear contradiction that most likely a townoe would make. Mafia would not like it and attack it.
I also like the part he attacks a lot of people with minimal commitment. Looks like town calling how he sees it, while mafia wants to make friends and not attack people.
Also Acrofoles has 4 pages of filter. So why kill him d1 lol. Kill scrubs.
I read 1 post of Acrofoles and decided he is most likely town and if he isnt should be left alive anyway.
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