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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 14 2019 18:12 GMT
#8174
On March 15 2019 03:07 Vivax wrote:
Any last words MZ

Your time to lynch me was yesterday lol, I was happy to flip in a non lylo situation.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 14 2019 18:34 GMT
#8179
Aight y'all surprise surprise I have to go flying again, I will be back tonight as usual.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 15 2019 04:43 GMT
#8344
I'm fully prepared to sheep acro. Those NKs were a bit surprising but I'm still comfortable with what acro is saying. I am finally going home tomorrow so I'll at last be able to be more active for the last half of the day.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 03:04 GMT
#8492
Ok i finally made it home. I think mocstas claim is wayyy too sloppy to be scum. I don't think this clears DF. I believe onegu's claim and I also believe we're at lylo so I'm not real impressed with the people who are pushing him rn.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 15:47 GMT
#8607
I am watching Mocsta's video and will catch up with the thread after.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 15:50 GMT
#8608
Mocsta's Pandain piece in the beginning of this video is a great start and I obviously agree with it.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 16:02 GMT
#8610
Deadzone host I agree with your top scum reads, I'm curious what you think about Pandain in light of what Mocsta had to say in his video?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 16:06 GMT
#8611
Ok I finished the video, very comfortable with Mocsta as town after that. Is there a part two Mocsta? It seemed like you got cut off mid thought.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 17:00 GMT
#8617
Wiggles the Pandain stuff starts around 4 minutes in
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 17:06 GMT
#8619
On March 17 2019 02:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 12:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok i finally made it home. I think mocstas claim is wayyy too sloppy to be scum. I don't think this clears DF. I believe onegu's claim and I also believe we're at lylo so I'm not real impressed with the people who are pushing him rn.

Why do you believe Onegu's claim?

Mostly because of his breadcrumb. I know that's not the strongest reasoning in the world but on a potential lylo lynch I'd rather not take chances. I also think his play is consistent with a survivor type role.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 18:30 GMT
#8639
I have a theory that scum kept acro alive because they knew if they killed him we'd just straight vote his reads and call it a day.

Looking at all these different wagons that pop up between myself, onegu, DF, and Mocsta strongly makes me suspect that people are trying really hard to prevent an oats lynch without looking like they are.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 18:38 GMT
#8641
On March 17 2019 03:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 03:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have a theory that scum kept acro alive because they knew if they killed him we'd just straight vote his reads and call it a day.

Looking at all these different wagons that pop up between myself, onegu, DF, and Mocsta strongly makes me suspect that people are trying really hard to prevent an oats lynch without looking like they are.

or that acro is wrong and people can see it.

you know the right reason

Considering that your scum list rn is wiggles + the people voting you, I have a feeling acro is right and the people who have been pushing alternatives (DF, Pandain, even maybe LS) are scum.

Although LS might just be really dumb.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 18:47 GMT
#8642
idk Onego, maybe you're on to something lol:

On March 15 2019 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:
##Vote: FecalFeast


On March 15 2019 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:
##Unvote


On March 15 2019 11:31 LightningStrike wrote:
##Vote: Darthfoley


On March 16 2019 04:47 LightningStrike wrote:
##Unvote


On March 16 2019 07:57 LightningStrike wrote:
##Vote: Onegu


On March 17 2019 03:04 LightningStrike wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Maepak_Zipph


This just screams scum doing their best to figure out which wagon is the most likely to take off.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 19:04 GMT
#8656
On March 17 2019 04:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
exo and slam are also my scumreads and they arent voting me so MZ you are just wrong man


On March 16 2019 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
also just wanna say
Show nested quote +
Oatsmaster (4): Acrofales, Mocsta, Jockmcplop, Onegu

wow what a lovely list of town people on my wagon.

So this wasn't sarcasm? bc that's how I read it.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 19:10 GMT
#8663
On March 17 2019 04:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 04:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
exo and slam are also my scumreads and they arent voting me so MZ you are just wrong man


On March 16 2019 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
also just wanna say
Oatsmaster (4): Acrofales, Mocsta, Jockmcplop, Onegu

wow what a lovely list of town people on my wagon.

So this wasn't sarcasm? bc that's how I read it.

obviously sarcasm but you did say that i had no scumreads outside of my wagon and wriggles.


Are you reading your own filter?

You have done nothing productive to push an exo or slam lynch. Your one contribution has been to scum read wiggles which is a very johnny come lately push. Where were you when I wanted to lynch wiggles like half a week ago? Wiggles since then has been active and clearly giving good reads, the justification of killing him based on dead townies was no longer sufficient days ago.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 19:11 GMT
#8664
On March 17 2019 04:09 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 04:06 Onegu wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:05 Tubesock wrote:
I think Acrofales is the only real blue left. Maybe either FF or Rels too it not both.



Pandain is blue claimed. He shot HF remember...


I know you haven’t been reading. But I cased him, so if you read you’d know I think he’s mafia day vig. I was voting him until about two minutes ago.

I believe your claim mostly when you said you wanted to do something truly baller and survive without claiming. So, I don’t have any problems with keeping you alive.

Why are you more persuaded by the wiggles case than the oats case Tube?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 19:12 GMT
#8665
I do agree with you on pandain though.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 19:16 GMT
#8668
On March 17 2019 04:13 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 04:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
exo and slam are also my scumreads and they arent voting me so MZ you are just wrong man


On March 16 2019 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
also just wanna say
Oatsmaster (4): Acrofales, Mocsta, Jockmcplop, Onegu

wow what a lovely list of town people on my wagon.

So this wasn't sarcasm? bc that's how I read it.

obviously sarcasm but you did say that i had no scumreads outside of my wagon and wriggles.


Are you reading your own filter?

You have done nothing productive to push an exo or slam lynch. Your one contribution has been to scum read wiggles which is a very johnny come lately push. Where were you when I wanted to lynch wiggles like half a week ago? Wiggles since then has been active and clearly giving good reads, the justification of killing him based on dead townies was no longer sufficient days ago.


What good reads?

On March 14 2019 15:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Concerned parent Grackaroni calls in with the following:

Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 12:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Hello Mr. Wiggles.

Long time listener, first time caller.

My issue with your program is that it focuses heavily on night actions and tube socks, which makes for somewhat dull listening in my evening hours. Frequently questions are explored in great detail that are of little value. I fear that your sock fetish frequently distracts from more engaging topics.

Could you give me some of your thoughts on the following players:

Oatsmaster
Rels
Jockmcplop
Mocsta


Firstly, let us assure you that the Dead Zone Show is one of the most wholesome radio programs available to the citizens of Liquidia, and we try to stay focused on the hot issues of the day affecting our society. We do our best to deliver quality entertainment, so if we are failing in this regard, we apologise.

Now, as for your question, we have the following opinions after filter-diving (or at least skimming) the above:

Mocsta:

Overall reads as town to me, based on behavioural reasons. Lots of Mocsta's reads have been pretty out there or novel. There's also been lots of progression in the reads that doesn't look like scum. Mocsta will go out and accuse someone, throw some crap around, and then end up changing the read organically as the thread moves forward or more information is revealed. I don't see scum putting themselves out there that much or making themselves stick out like that. I don't like the recent preoccupation with 3P/SK and kill analysis, but that's more because I think it's a waste of effort than scum-motivated.

Jockmcplop:

Null to scum lean. We liked his play in the early stages of the game, but to us lately it's been becoming more scummy. The last while has seemed really tentative and timid compared to the earlier play that was a bit fearless. The posts from the last day have read more like they're probing to get a sense of town sentiment before committing to a read. This seems like scum that's getting nervous and doesn't know how to play or blend coming in to the mid game where there's less room to hide. I'll temper the read based on the fact that this is allegedly Jock's first game, so maybe the nerves are for a different reason, but it's coming off more as scum than inexperience now.

Rels:

Rels is a weird one because of the mason stuff. Rsoultin was masoned and outed Rels for thinking they're scum, and then LS was masoned and seems to have a town read on Rels (I think?). There's some weirdness going on here, where the Rels/Rsoultin stuff doesn't seem to match up with the apparent effort that's going on now with LS (based on stuff LS is saying in thread). This gives me some strange vibes.

Looking through the filter, it's not great. Lots of soft posting without many hard stances, besides pushing Ace and then Chez in the last couple cycles. Besides that, there's a lack content, even with lots of posts. There's maybe some stuff going on in the QT now with LS, but I don't like that reads are coming out through LS about stuff like Onegu, MZ, and TS and not from Rels himself via his posting in the thread. He doesn't seem to be publicly pushing the same stuff that he's feeding to LS.

Decent chance to flip scum.

Oatsmaster:

Null to scum read, similar strength to Jock. Looking through the filter was pretty hard. There's lots of random commentary and questions that don't seem to accomplish much or go anywhere. Lots of their scum reads come on hard seem to drop pretty soon thereafter. Reads a lot like Oats is throwing crap at the wall and looking for what might stick. Maybe that's a good way to look for reactions pretty early in the game, but coming in to this stage, it doesn't really add too much. I'm not familiar with meta any more, so maybe this is Oats' normal play?

Overall, I'd contrast Oats' play to Mocsta's where the latter's shows a more clear progression in the reads compared to Oats, even if they similarly try to push their own reads regardless of town sentiment. Mocsta's reads a lot more like town trying to scumhunt compared to Oats.

On March 14 2019 16:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Your hosts here at the Dead Zone Show would like to make their reads more clear. Most of this should have reasoning in our filter, besides a couple town reads we haven't mentioned and the null/uncertains. This is where people currently stand from strongest to weakest read in each category on the Liquidia Hot Singles list:

Town:

Mr. Wiggles (I know my role!)
Pandain (HF shot + Sent push + posting)
Acrofales (Had this read for a while, posting)
LightningStrike (#1 Dead Zone Show fan)
Grackaroni (Posting)
Vivax (Posting)
Mocsta
Meapak_Ziphh
Alakaslam (To make slam feel happy and included )

Null or not paid a ton of attention to:

Fecalfeast (Claim is not confirmed, but not worth looking at as a lynch yet)
sicklucker
ExO_

Scum:

Jockmcplop
Oatsmaster
Rels
darthfoley
Onegu
tubesock

I like these two posts although I would replace you with Pandain or FF on his scum list.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 19:23 GMT
#8672
On March 17 2019 04:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 04:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
exo and slam are also my scumreads and they arent voting me so MZ you are just wrong man


On March 16 2019 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
also just wanna say
Oatsmaster (4): Acrofales, Mocsta, Jockmcplop, Onegu

wow what a lovely list of town people on my wagon.

So this wasn't sarcasm? bc that's how I read it.

obviously sarcasm but you did say that i had no scumreads outside of my wagon and wriggles.


Are you reading your own filter?

You have done nothing productive to push an exo or slam lynch. Your one contribution has been to scum read wiggles which is a very johnny come lately push. Where were you when I wanted to lynch wiggles like half a week ago? Wiggles since then has been active and clearly giving good reads, the justification of killing him based on dead townies was no longer sufficient days ago.

obviously I havent, I cant push all of my scumreads into lynches.

I was lynching Holyflare because you wanted to somehow convert 1 vote into 12 votes?

I wasn't asking you to lol, i voted for my top scum reads for the first few days as well. However now in a potential lylo with you under the gun you've not really done anything to show why your reads should be getting lynched instead of yourself.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
March 16 2019 19:32 GMT
#8678
Wiggles do you really still think tube is scum?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
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