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On March 16 2019 05:53 Pandain wrote:
@Acro maybe Oats is scum, but one post where he is oddly polite with BC is nowhere near good enough for me to vote him today, which is what started your campaign with him.
And re: Mocsta it makes me doubt he's scum, certainly if Mocsta flips red.
Mocsta's claim is clearly bullshit, but you think scum!mocsta would botch a cop fakeclaim just to get a lunch at lylo when absolutely everybody was townreading him? Why?
If you think that's the case, it'd have to be because we were going to lynch scum today and they are getting impatient (for no apparent reason) and want to win NOW. At night we were talking about onegu, tube and DF, with oats taking over later when Grack and I talked about him a bit.
Mostly we thought tube was not really scummy because it did not look like scum was protecting him. Onegu claimed 3p and it's fairly believable. If we lunch 3p we lose.
That leaves DF and oats. So if you think mocsta is fakeclaiming to get DF lynched and win the game for scum, then we shouldn't lynch DF.
That leaves Oats. So join me in lynching Oats.
Of course, I'm not actually on board with this. I want to know what Mocsta's plan was with all of this. He might be the scum hiding in my town circle. Or he might just be slightly crazy. That is my current theory, btw.
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On March 16 2019 07:30 Rels wrote:
I think I prefer an Onegu lynch. His survivor claim cannot be true - the only question left is "could a VT claim survivor to escape a lynch?" And I don't believe it is very likely
No. He's definitely either 3p or scum.
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Ill put my money on 3p...
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On March 16 2019 07:30 Rels wrote:
I think I prefer an Onegu lynch. His survivor claim cannot be true - the only question left is "could a VT claim survivor to escape a lynch?" And I don't believe it is very likely
Why cant it be?
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On March 16 2019 07:36 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 07:30 Rels wrote:
I think I prefer an Onegu lynch. His survivor claim cannot be true - the only question left is "could a VT claim survivor to escape a lynch?" And I don't believe it is very likely No. He's definitely either 3p or scum.
3P is also not possible. I've explained why it is only a strategy he came up while being pushed:
On March 15 2019 07:00 Rels wrote:Yeah lol. Acro indicates he was post a case soon against Onegu, and votes him: Show nested quote +On March 13 2019 18:45 Acrofales wrote:
Yeahhhh. Case incoming when I get to a PC.
Let's lunch scum, ##vote: onegu And 1 hour later the breadcrumb appears: Show nested quote +On March 13 2019 19:49 Onegu wrote:
Unless we see a red flip at night from being shot I’m not even going to think about it.. if there is a third party I would put my money much more on there being a survivor... It's not a breadcrumb if you only do it when you're attacked ... a breadcrumb is supposed to prove you're not lying by showing that you committed secretly to your claim early on. This is not a secret commit, this is a reaction to being pushed
To add something to this reasonning I didn't think at the time, there is the following: Onegu as a player showed that he's someone that thinks a breadcrumb is necessary to a claim, as evidenced by him ... leaving a breadcrumb while planning to claim, and also by his own words:
On March 15 2019 02:31 Onegu wrote:
Then just claim if I had to. And since I am going to be lynched I claimed. But not before I breadcrumb.
BUT with this mindset, the best thing to do would be to breadcrumb very early in the game, ideally in his first post. That would prove beyond reasonnable doubts he's really survivor.
The important point is: there is a disconnect between Onegu's awareness of him needing a breadcrumb to support his claim, and him only breadcrumbing 30 hours before his claim, when he's already under attack.
How can we explain this disconnect? Easy; at the time you made your "Onegu is scum and I'll explain why soon" post, he thought his best chance to avoid lynch was to fakeclaim survivor, and he made his breadcrumb. Easy. Occam's razor in action here.
There is also LS' point that he wouldn't be that angry after the Sentinel's point; I don't know how much of a strong point it is, and I don't need to - the above is already strong enough
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On March 16 2019 07:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 07:36 Acrofales wrote:On March 16 2019 07:30 Rels wrote:
I think I prefer an Onegu lynch. His survivor claim cannot be true - the only question left is "could a VT claim survivor to escape a lynch?" And I don't believe it is very likely No. He's definitely either 3p or scum. 3P is also not possible. I've explained why it is only a strategy he came up while being pushed: Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 07:00 Rels wrote:Yeah lol. Acro indicates he was post a case soon against Onegu, and votes him: On March 13 2019 18:45 Acrofales wrote:
Yeahhhh. Case incoming when I get to a PC.
Let's lunch scum, ##vote: onegu And 1 hour later the breadcrumb appears: On March 13 2019 19:49 Onegu wrote:
Unless we see a red flip at night from being shot I’m not even going to think about it.. if there is a third party I would put my money much more on there being a survivor... It's not a breadcrumb if you only do it when you're attacked ... a breadcrumb is supposed to prove you're not lying by showing that you committed secretly to your claim early on. This is not a secret commit, this is a reaction to being pushed To add something to this reasonning I didn't think at the time, there is the following: Onegu as a player showed that he's someone that thinks a breadcrumb is necessary to a claim, as evidenced by him ... leaving a breadcrumb while planning to claim, and also by his own words: Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 02:31 Onegu wrote:
Then just claim if I had to. And since I am going to be lynched I claimed. But not before I breadcrumb. BUT with this mindset, the best thing to do would be to breadcrumb very early in the game, ideally in his first post. That would prove beyond reasonnable doubts he's really survivor. The important point is: there is a disconnect between Onegu's awareness of him needing a breadcrumb to support his claim, and him only breadcrumbing 30 hours before his claim, when he's already under attack.How can we explain this disconnect? Easy; at the time you made your "Onegu is scum and I'll explain why soon" post, he thought his best chance to avoid lynch was to fakeclaim survivor, and he made his breadcrumb. Easy. Occam's razor in action here. There is also LS' point that he wouldn't be that angry after the Sentinel's point; I don't know how much of a strong point it is, and I don't need to - the above is already strong enough
Grack pointed out that part I not taking credit for his thing. Placeholding my vote on Onegu for right now.
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I wasnt seriously being pushed when I crumbed.
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On March 16 2019 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 07:55 Rels wrote:On March 16 2019 07:36 Acrofales wrote:On March 16 2019 07:30 Rels wrote:
I think I prefer an Onegu lynch. His survivor claim cannot be true - the only question left is "could a VT claim survivor to escape a lynch?" And I don't believe it is very likely No. He's definitely either 3p or scum. 3P is also not possible. I've explained why it is only a strategy he came up while being pushed: On March 15 2019 07:00 Rels wrote:Yeah lol. Acro indicates he was post a case soon against Onegu, and votes him: On March 13 2019 18:45 Acrofales wrote:
Yeahhhh. Case incoming when I get to a PC.
Let's lunch scum, ##vote: onegu And 1 hour later the breadcrumb appears: On March 13 2019 19:49 Onegu wrote:
Unless we see a red flip at night from being shot I’m not even going to think about it.. if there is a third party I would put my money much more on there being a survivor... It's not a breadcrumb if you only do it when you're attacked ... a breadcrumb is supposed to prove you're not lying by showing that you committed secretly to your claim early on. This is not a secret commit, this is a reaction to being pushed To add something to this reasonning I didn't think at the time, there is the following: Onegu as a player showed that he's someone that thinks a breadcrumb is necessary to a claim, as evidenced by him ... leaving a breadcrumb while planning to claim, and also by his own words: On March 15 2019 02:31 Onegu wrote:
Then just claim if I had to. And since I am going to be lynched I claimed. But not before I breadcrumb. BUT with this mindset, the best thing to do would be to breadcrumb very early in the game, ideally in his first post. That would prove beyond reasonnable doubts he's really survivor. The important point is: there is a disconnect between Onegu's awareness of him needing a breadcrumb to support his claim, and him only breadcrumbing 30 hours before his claim, when he's already under attack.How can we explain this disconnect? Easy; at the time you made your "Onegu is scum and I'll explain why soon" post, he thought his best chance to avoid lynch was to fakeclaim survivor, and he made his breadcrumb. Easy. Occam's razor in action here. There is also LS' point that he wouldn't be that angry after the Sentinel's point; I don't know how much of a strong point it is, and I don't need to - the above is already strong enough Grack pointed out that part I not taking credit for his thing. Placeholding my vote on Onegu for right now.
This guy is scum fwiw. Dont really care if you lynch him. But hey thought id point it out.
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On March 16 2019 07:59 Onegu wrote:
I wasnt seriously being pushed when I crumbed.
as scum, this kind of post will always make you react, even if you don't show it in thread:
On March 13 2019 18:45 Acrofales wrote:
Yeahhhh. Case incoming when I get to a PC.
Let's lunch scum, ##vote: onegu
so yeah, my assumption is that this post caused you to think of a fakeclaim, decide survivor, and plant a breadcrumb just in case you needed it later
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Because hospital onegu, getting 2mg of IV dillaudid every 4 hours. Plus 10mg methadone every 6 hours. and 150mg of lyrica every 8. Ohhh and at that time I was also getting pill form of dillaudid 4mg every 6 hours.
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has the presence of mind to think up a fake claim. breadcrumb it. off of a small push
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I know one of the nurse mafia players are going to see these numbers and think I am bullshitting those numbers. I am not.
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On March 16 2019 08:10 Onegu wrote:
I know one of the nurse mafia players are going to see these numbers and think I am bullshitting those numbers. I am not.
Where is Geript......
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On March 16 2019 08:12 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 08:10 Onegu wrote:
I know one of the nurse mafia players are going to see these numbers and think I am bullshitting those numbers. I am not. Where is Geript......
He isnt the only one.
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On March 16 2019 08:09 Onegu wrote:
has the presence of mind to think up a fake claim. breadcrumb it. off of a small push
if that is not what happened, what did?
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On March 16 2019 08:13 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 08:09 Onegu wrote:
has the presence of mind to think up a fake claim. breadcrumb it. off of a small push
if that is not what happened, what did?
I knew my role. I knew I was getting a bit of heat. Nothing serious, but knew it could become something in the future. Also it was when people were talking about 3p so it felt like a good time.
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On March 16 2019 08:14 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 08:13 Rels wrote:On March 16 2019 08:09 Onegu wrote:
has the presence of mind to think up a fake claim. breadcrumb it. off of a small push
if that is not what happened, what did? I knew my role. I knew I was getting a bit of heat. Nothing serious, but knew it could become something in the future. Also it was when people were talking about 3p so it felt like a good time.
in your mind, you were getting "quite a bit of heat" way earlier:
On March 15 2019 02:40 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 02:34 Acrofales wrote:On March 11 2019 08:15 Onegu wrote:
NO ONE GETS ANY TOWN POINTS FOR BEING ON THAT WAGON!!! Why does 3p survivor Onegu give any shits about this? Because it would mean I was up for Lynch after that for not being on that Lynch. As people said I looked really bad after that flip. Bringing this up takes pressure of of me.
By your reasonning, you would breadcrumb at that point (after the Sentinel flip). Why didn't you?
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also if one of those nurses are reading. And iirc damdred is one. PM me, I have a question on when i should see a doctor about a IV infiltration in my arm that could be infected.
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On March 16 2019 08:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 08:14 Onegu wrote:On March 16 2019 08:13 Rels wrote:On March 16 2019 08:09 Onegu wrote:
has the presence of mind to think up a fake claim. breadcrumb it. off of a small push
if that is not what happened, what did? I knew my role. I knew I was getting a bit of heat. Nothing serious, but knew it could become something in the future. Also it was when people were talking about 3p so it felt like a good time. in your mind, you were getting "quite a bit of heat" way earlier: Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 02:40 Onegu wrote:On March 15 2019 02:34 Acrofales wrote:On March 11 2019 08:15 Onegu wrote:
NO ONE GETS ANY TOWN POINTS FOR BEING ON THAT WAGON!!! Why does 3p survivor Onegu give any shits about this? Because it would mean I was up for Lynch after that for not being on that Lynch. As people said I looked really bad after that flip. Bringing this up takes pressure of of me. By your reasonning, you would breadcrumb at that point (after the Sentinel flip). Why didn't you?
Because it mostly came when people were talking about 3p and it kinda of reminded me, hey messed up onegu, might be time to crumb.
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