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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 00:41 GMT
#2715
On March 05 2019 09:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 08:59 Conversion wrote:
##unvote
##vote trfel

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 08:57 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Trfel



Good catches, frick, why would ppl shebnanie *off* me??

Sigh
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 00:42 GMT
#2722
Man I really should have just RNGed
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 00:45 GMT
#2739
On March 05 2019 09:43 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Man I really should have just RNGed

the time you have wasted shitting the thread playing like a jester you could have read the thread twice.

You are mafia stop posting


Please vigi me

Fuck it's not my fault I didn't die dude, I am on your side, I've actively been trying to get lynched, mayorkilled or vigied! I tried! I'm trying!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 00:48 GMT
#2749
See the problem here is that everyone is assuming that it was scum vs town wagons with me vs trfel, but it's not, we're both town. This analysis is based on a false assumption.

This is why HF should have killed me instead of palm, or a vigi should kill me tonight. Please kill me! Or else our analsys is screwed. Kill me kill me kill me
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 00:48 GMT
#2751
Augh this is the worst outcome of them all
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 00:53 GMT
#2770
Shoot me! Shoot me tonight! People thinking I'm scum will make bad analysis on the BH vs Trf wagons unless a vigi shoots me tonight! Only a green flip can exonerate me. Vigi, shoot me!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 00:55 GMT
#2778
On March 05 2019 09:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 09:53 Blazinghand wrote:
Shoot me! Shoot me tonight! People thinking I'm scum will make bad analysis on the BH vs Trf wagons unless a vigi shoots me tonight! Only a green flip can exonerate me. Vigi, shoot me!

Yes yes


You smile but somehow despite my urging I wasn't lynched yesterday! Augh. Clearly I need to be more explicit

I better not wake up in the morning or I'm going to be mad
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 01:37 GMT
#2849
On March 05 2019 10:34 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh you fucking idiots.
You did it.
You blew it up.


[red] Holyflare
Rsoultin
Sentinel
Blazinghand
[red/]

More when I get to a computer.


im town reading you for this post. sentinal bh seem like locks honestly. I feel like bh wouldnt play this way as town and trying the too scummy to be scum strategy. He mods hundreds of games but decides to ruin game for his own town alignment? nah also he was the counter wagon to trfel and mafia usually defends him here.

Rstoulin thought tref was scummy but ended on blazinghand so she might not be scum.

other 3 ya


I'm not "too scummy to be scum" I've literally been trying to get killed!!! Augh. This is why I need to be vigied

On March 05 2019 10:34 Holyflare wrote:
does bh not vote to save himself if he's playing on a mafia team?


I tried to vote myself, could not, and I didn't vote trfel even when it was a 1 vote margin!

God again I hate being alive because I have to deal with theSe contorted explanation for how I'm scum


Vigi me pls pls pls



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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 02:33 GMT
#2890
*waves*

I'm here but
1) haven't read the first 100 pages and will not do so
2) most of the town incorrectly believes I'm scum and is making bad bus analysis in that assumption
3) and also most of the town, including the mayor, decided not to lynch me
4) i am also only here via phone

Other than that I'm ready to chat
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 02:39 GMT
#2896
On March 05 2019 11:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol bh
You and I both know where you belong. I am both incredibly dismayed and infinitely amused that you are still alive.
It's such typical BH fare. How do you fucking do it?


Dude this time I was actually actively trying to get lynched. I asked to be policy lynched! Everyone seemed on board. Hopefully I get vigied overnight.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 02:45 GMT
#2904
On March 05 2019 11:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 11:41 Mocsta wrote:
On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit
On March 05 2019 06:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'll consolidate onto trfel, feels better than Conv to me right now. [...]


CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT
This was the most recent vote count at time of posts above.

TF = 8, BH = 6, Conv = 4, acro = 4

if BH is scum, this is a great scum buddy post

1) Places non-committal scum read on BH
2) Is an afford to derail BH lynch (who is certainly not known as a hardcore lurker..)
3) No mayor candidate was advocating a BH mayor snipe -> i.e. is guranteed to fall upon deaf ears and receive no traction


I also note that Wiggles filter indicates he scum reads Conversion, but instantly drops this for the thread popular Trfel when it comes to saving BH. Overall, extremely hedged posting and likely mafia (alongside with BH)


On March 05 2019 01:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Managed to skim the thread before work. I like the Conversion case better than Acro and Oats right now for a D1 lynch. Missed the asking for permission angle the first time through, but even the recent stuff is weirdly fixated on MZ. Tunnel tunnel tunnel
[...]


https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Mr. Wiggles&view=all


Preflip association not a great call, but I'll allow it because we need the flip regardless


Associative tells on unflipped players, bus analysis assuming I am scum, etx - vigi, please kill me or we'll have mistaken analysis all day D2
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 02:50 GMT
#2909
Even though it's frustrating, it is pretty funny tbh
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 07:31 GMT
#3026
On March 05 2019 15:51 AMG wrote:
151 pages... you cannot be serious!

I started playing here nearly a decade ago under the name Adam4167, some of you ive played with, most of the rest Ive spectated games you were in.

Now, if someone could tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 the level of shit ive waded into, 1 being my socks would get wet and 10 being if i open my mouth I die of E.coli?


I can't talk about pages 1-100 but as Day 1 came to an end, there was a 3-way race for mayor between Holyflare and Palmar, and to a lesser extent Iamperfection. There was no clear lead for who would be lynched, with Trfel, Oats, Acro, and Conversion all hitting 4-5 votes at one point or another.

With about 6 hours left in the day, I came by and basically admitted there was no way I was going to read the first 100 pages, and said that it would be fine to lynch me so someone else would have a chance to play through Day 2 and enjoy the game (basically martyring). I lobbed down a self-vote (which later turned out to be not allowed), and voted for the guy who most recently got a mayor vote, Palmar.

Following this, I got a wave of votes - from HF, Acro, Grack, and Iamp, who seemed extremely pleased with himself for figuring out that he should vote me.

Over the next couple of hours, mayor voting consolidated, with HF and Palmar being neck and neck, and iamp falling behind. HF ran on a platform of lynching Palmar, and Palmar ran on a platform of lynching Sent for a variety of reasons inclusive of a policy lynch of Sent for failing to read his role PM.

with about a half an hour left in the game, rayn, FF, iamp, Damdred brought HF to several votes over HF, pushing him into a comfortable lead over Palmar, and most of the votes consolidated onto either me or Trfel.

with 10 minutes left, HF basically had the mayor vote locked up, 4 votes ahead of Palmar, thanks to Damdred and Iamp also hopping on his mayor wagon. For the lynch, I had 10 votes to Trfel's 9:

Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, Vivax, rsoultin, Conversion
Trfel (9): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales

You'll note my vote isn't on Trfel here, I keep it on Iamp since he's a shitter and I don't want to accidentally get someone other than me lynched.

The last 10 minutes are shenannies:

Exo comes in and votes me, making it 11-9.

3 minutes to the deadline, Vivax swaps over from me to Trfel, tying it up at 10-10 (though i'll be lynched in this tie)

2 minutes to the deadline, Lightingstrike jumps from his irrelevant rsoultin vote onto me, making it 11 votes on me, 10 on Trfel.

1 Minute from the Deadline, conversion hops off of me and onto Trfel, causing Trfel to have 11 votes and me to have 10.

Trfel flips Doctor.

HF uses his mayoral power to kill Palmar, the backup Cop.


When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 07:33 GMT
#3028
Note that from the POV of scum, these were two competing town wagons.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 07:39 GMT
#3030
Actually you know what, i'm going to analyze this game just ignoring everything that happened before I started martyring. All the interesting stuff has to do with the flips and wagons leading into the deadline, and I was around for that. since I'm getting viged, you can read this after I die and praise my wisdom.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 07:50 GMT
#3041
On March 05 2019 16:42 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 16:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 15:51 AMG wrote:
151 pages... you cannot be serious!

I started playing here nearly a decade ago under the name Adam4167, some of you ive played with, most of the rest Ive spectated games you were in.

Now, if someone could tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 the level of shit ive waded into, 1 being my socks would get wet and 10 being if i open my mouth I die of E.coli?


I can't talk about pages 1-100 but as Day 1 came to an end, there was a 3-way race for mayor between Holyflare and Palmar, and to a lesser extent Iamperfection. There was no clear lead for who would be lynched, with Trfel, Oats, Acro, and Conversion all hitting 4-5 votes at one point or another.

With about 6 hours left in the day, I came by and basically admitted there was no way I was going to read the first 100 pages, and said that it would be fine to lynch me so someone else would have a chance to play through Day 2 and enjoy the game (basically martyring). I lobbed down a self-vote (which later turned out to be not allowed), and voted for the guy who most recently got a mayor vote, Palmar.

Following this, I got a wave of votes - from HF, Acro, Grack, and Iamp, who seemed extremely pleased with himself for figuring out that he should vote me.

Over the next couple of hours, mayor voting consolidated, with HF and Palmar being neck and neck, and iamp falling behind. HF ran on a platform of lynching Palmar, and Palmar ran on a platform of lynching Sent for a variety of reasons inclusive of a policy lynch of Sent for failing to read his role PM.

with about a half an hour left in the game, rayn, FF, iamp, Damdred brought HF to several votes over HF, pushing him into a comfortable lead over Palmar, and most of the votes consolidated onto either me or Trfel.

with 10 minutes left, HF basically had the mayor vote locked up, 4 votes ahead of Palmar, thanks to Damdred and Iamp also hopping on his mayor wagon. For the lynch, I had 10 votes to Trfel's 9:

Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, Vivax, rsoultin, Conversion
Trfel (9): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales

You'll note my vote isn't on Trfel here, I keep it on Iamp since he's a shitter and I don't want to accidentally get someone other than me lynched.

The last 10 minutes are shenannies:

Exo comes in and votes me, making it 11-9.

3 minutes to the deadline, Vivax swaps over from me to Trfel, tying it up at 10-10 (though i'll be lynched in this tie)

2 minutes to the deadline, Lightingstrike jumps from his irrelevant rsoultin vote onto me, making it 11 votes on me, 10 on Trfel.

1 Minute from the Deadline, conversion hops off of me and onto Trfel, causing Trfel to have 11 votes and me to have 10.

Trfel flips Doctor.

HF uses his mayoral power to kill Palmar, the backup Cop.





An attempted self vote BH? youve changed man!

In the world you're pitching to me, where both you and Trfel are town, why are these people switching votes with 1-2 minutes left on the clock at all, rather than just doing nothing?


There's a couple of possibilities.

for vivax and conversion, they might be townies who legitimately think Trfel was suspicious, and in their heart they nullread me and hope I get vigied or mayor-killed. Trfel was whining a lot as the deadline approached, which might have contributed to them dislike him. If they're scum, the last minute shenannies may have been for any reason - perhaps they thought I was sure to be a VT due to my lack of concern with being killed, and Trfel was Blue due to his whining (both of which turn out to be true), or in the case of Scum-Vivax, hoping to look like someone who tried and failed to avert the tragic lynch of town blazinghand since his voteswap didn't actually save me.

For LS, I think he just accepted my martyring as "scum or useless, let's kill him" and realized his vote on rsoultin was doing literally nothing. if he's scum, he might ahve been trying to get onto a main wagon to avoid suspicion for staying out of the main battle.

despite HF's promise to shoot Palmar with the mayor power, maybe they thought he'd use it on me. Maybe (and perhaps correctly) they figured I'd be vigged anyways. maybe they thought my lynch would be boring and provide little info.

And in any case, if you're scum, making a bit fuss out of two competing town wagons can make you look good if you pull it off right, since...

well, imagine you have a theory of "BH is scum, and conversion, his scumbuddy, saved him at the last minute"

In this case, you lynch or vig BH first, because conversion's scum-nature is contingent on mine. And if you're conversion, you know town will think this, and lynch me first, and when I flip town, Conversion is then off the hook. by shenanniying from me onto Trfel, he sets up a Day 2 mislynch, theoretically speaking.

though that's fairly WIFOMey, it's the kind of play I like to do as scum. I'm sure there are others who use it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 09:28 GMT
#3125
On March 05 2019 17:06 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 16:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:42 AMG wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 15:51 AMG wrote:
151 pages... you cannot be serious!

I started playing here nearly a decade ago under the name Adam4167, some of you ive played with, most of the rest Ive spectated games you were in.

Now, if someone could tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 the level of shit ive waded into, 1 being my socks would get wet and 10 being if i open my mouth I die of E.coli?


I can't talk about pages 1-100 but as Day 1 came to an end, there was a 3-way race for mayor between Holyflare and Palmar, and to a lesser extent Iamperfection. There was no clear lead for who would be lynched, with Trfel, Oats, Acro, and Conversion all hitting 4-5 votes at one point or another.

With about 6 hours left in the day, I came by and basically admitted there was no way I was going to read the first 100 pages, and said that it would be fine to lynch me so someone else would have a chance to play through Day 2 and enjoy the game (basically martyring). I lobbed down a self-vote (which later turned out to be not allowed), and voted for the guy who most recently got a mayor vote, Palmar.

Following this, I got a wave of votes - from HF, Acro, Grack, and Iamp, who seemed extremely pleased with himself for figuring out that he should vote me.

Over the next couple of hours, mayor voting consolidated, with HF and Palmar being neck and neck, and iamp falling behind. HF ran on a platform of lynching Palmar, and Palmar ran on a platform of lynching Sent for a variety of reasons inclusive of a policy lynch of Sent for failing to read his role PM.

with about a half an hour left in the game, rayn, FF, iamp, Damdred brought HF to several votes over HF, pushing him into a comfortable lead over Palmar, and most of the votes consolidated onto either me or Trfel.

with 10 minutes left, HF basically had the mayor vote locked up, 4 votes ahead of Palmar, thanks to Damdred and Iamp also hopping on his mayor wagon. For the lynch, I had 10 votes to Trfel's 9:

Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, Vivax, rsoultin, Conversion
Trfel (9): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales

You'll note my vote isn't on Trfel here, I keep it on Iamp since he's a shitter and I don't want to accidentally get someone other than me lynched.

The last 10 minutes are shenannies:

Exo comes in and votes me, making it 11-9.

3 minutes to the deadline, Vivax swaps over from me to Trfel, tying it up at 10-10 (though i'll be lynched in this tie)

2 minutes to the deadline, Lightingstrike jumps from his irrelevant rsoultin vote onto me, making it 11 votes on me, 10 on Trfel.

1 Minute from the Deadline, conversion hops off of me and onto Trfel, causing Trfel to have 11 votes and me to have 10.

Trfel flips Doctor.

HF uses his mayoral power to kill Palmar, the backup Cop.





An attempted self vote BH? youve changed man!

In the world you're pitching to me, where both you and Trfel are town, why are these people switching votes with 1-2 minutes left on the clock at all, rather than just doing nothing?


There's a couple of possibilities.

for vivax and conversion, they might be townies who legitimately think Trfel was suspicious, and in their heart they nullread me and hope I get vigied or mayor-killed. Trfel was whining a lot as the deadline approached, which might have contributed to them dislike him. If they're scum, the last minute shenannies may have been for any reason - perhaps they thought I was sure to be a VT due to my lack of concern with being killed, and Trfel was Blue due to his whining (both of which turn out to be true), or in the case of Scum-Vivax, hoping to look like someone who tried and failed to avert the tragic lynch of town blazinghand since his voteswap didn't actually save me.

For LS, I think he just accepted my martyring as "scum or useless, let's kill him" and realized his vote on rsoultin was doing literally nothing. if he's scum, he might ahve been trying to get onto a main wagon to avoid suspicion for staying out of the main battle.

despite HF's promise to shoot Palmar with the mayor power, maybe they thought he'd use it on me. Maybe (and perhaps correctly) they figured I'd be vigged anyways. maybe they thought my lynch would be boring and provide little info.

And in any case, if you're scum, making a bit fuss out of two competing town wagons can make you look good if you pull it off right, since...

well, imagine you have a theory of "BH is scum, and conversion, his scumbuddy, saved him at the last minute"

In this case, you lynch or vig BH first, because conversion's scum-nature is contingent on mine. And if you're conversion, you know town will think this, and lynch me first, and when I flip town, Conversion is then off the hook. by shenanniying from me onto Trfel, he sets up a Day 2 mislynch, theoretically speaking.

though that's fairly WIFOMey, it's the kind of play I like to do as scum. I'm sure there are others who use it.


Yeah thats fairly WIFOM stuff, Ill have to read how the lynch played out myself and get back to you.

If you could flip 3 people right now, who are they?


Me, HF, and Conversion would lay clear all the facts about what went down at the end of D1. I think a lot of questions and WIFOM get washed away when HF and conv flip, and doubly so for me - at least from the POV of people who aren't me. Also, flipping me now means our blues get to take better night actions, freeing up a vigi shot for someone else. A lot of the meat of what we need to dig into is what went down as we rolled towards the deadline D1. We know HF killed Palm, who flipped blue, and Conv's vote on Trfel killed Trfel and saved me. Flipping HF and Conv who made these ruinous decisions would lay it all out. Flipping me would also end all this stupid analysis where people assume I'm scum and go from there.

Though it might be wiser to go back through and see who has contributed least and maybe sub them in for one or two of these guys, just because any low activity players you can't get a read on are going to be either scum or a liability in the lategame (since scum won't shoot them obvs)

And really, when it comes down to it, HF should have had his finger on that dial, ready to send in a "actually i'm killing BH" pm to hosts when it was a 1-vote spread between me and Trfel's wagon. I may be the shenanigan king, but lots of people know to stick around the deadline, particularly when things are so close.

Bear in mind, in the final moments leading up to the shenannies, HF is there, in the thread, comming on last minute mafia activity (link) and saying that I am a "secure mafia lynch" (3 minutes before deadline). HF was there, in the thread, when the votes shifted. He watched it happen. He complained about it. He said I was scum.

Bear in mind, if HF truly thinks I was scum, he knew that at that point, the vote was tied 10-10 and I hadn't yet voted! All I had to do was cast a vote on Trfel and Trfel would die and I would live, HF, supposedly thinking i'm scum and in this situation, while we're both in the thread, with minutes to go, who thinks i'm "secure" as mafia, apparently decided to go for Palmar instead.

In the end, HF hung out in the thread, watched the shenannies threaten to kill Trfel over me, tie up the vote with me still not voted on Trfel, then the vote goes onto Trfel and Trfel takes the lead, all while claiming I'm "secure mafia lynch"

if I were in this situation I would be on a hair trigger, ready to take down the "secure mafia lynch" that is only winning by a 1-vote margin in case of shenannies.

He will have many pretty, fancy reasons for why he did this, of course. He may even be town, town is wrong and screws up all the time. The host's vote counts were not very quick and accurate in the final minutes. But them's the things that happened. So yeah, I'd flip him along with me and conv ezpz and we'd see the truth.
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March 05 2019 09:31 GMT
#3127
On March 05 2019 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
I ultimately ended up still lynching Palmar:

A) because my vote was locked in and I never really got to change it to BH when your slot and vivax saved him

B) I would much rather have fun with a lynch on a really polarising player to lynch instead of some shitty policy lynch anyway that may or may not have actually turned into a scum BH. We now have about 100 different reads on this lynch and we have the flip to boot. It wouldn't have been the same if Palmar didn't flip either.

I was tempted to vote some non-entity but that's really really fucking boring and wouldn't be fun.


I could see B as a valid reason here, but A is obviously bullshit, HF was in thread as it happened, watched it go down, commented on it, and still lynched Palmar.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 09:40 GMT
#3132
On March 05 2019 18:37 sicklucker wrote:
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On March 05 2019 18:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
I ultimately ended up still lynching Palmar:

A) because my vote was locked in and I never really got to change it to BH when your slot and vivax saved him

B) I would much rather have fun with a lynch on a really polarising player to lynch instead of some shitty policy lynch anyway that may or may not have actually turned into a scum BH. We now have about 100 different reads on this lynch and we have the flip to boot. It wouldn't have been the same if Palmar didn't flip either.

I was tempted to vote some non-entity but that's really really fucking boring and wouldn't be fun.


I could see B as a valid reason here, but A is obviously bullshit, HF was in thread as it happened, watched it go down, commented on it, and still lynched Palmar.


that and i think the flip took 40 minutes


yep, I was refreshing furiously the whole time. it was a very close race so hosts wanted to be extremely sure. I'd have at least, in HF's shoes, tried sending a PM post-deadline to ask to swap over to Blazinghand as the lynch target, if A was the real reason
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 05 2019 11:17 GMT
#3150
On March 05 2019 20:09 Koshi wrote:
And if anybody asks.
I sheep marv because I love him and because I felt the coolness and awesomeness when he entered the thread.

I wont be posting much more till d4 or d5.

I have enough filter to make a correct call. But I agree that playing townie for 8ish hours is in my mafia range.


wow look at the big brain on this guy

buddy, "play townie all game until the final 3, convince the other two people, both of whom are townies, to vote each other, and win" is in my mafia range

i am a god
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