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The experiment commences! I love experiments.
Slam's in my no-lynch list today, too.
And I'll grant HF the TT read cause that's totally what I did as scum I think a few times? For indeterminate feels reasons I disagree but that's kinda par for the course for me.
Sentinel can hang if Chez/rayn aren't in the nooses.
Jock's MZ reasoning makes me want to townread him.
On March 03 2019 03:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I feel confident in this so far:
Vivax
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I think that Rayn is reading MZ's posts wrong but I believe that he's actually trying to reason out MZ's motivations for the posts that he makes. I don't think MZ's posts have been scummy.
I think Vivax's posts are very very likely to come from town Vivax.
There is one person that I have a gut feeling is scum but it's not worth getting into yet and I want to see more posts. I don't like posts like this. I see little value in just giving a slew of green reads and leaving out your one "gut feeling" Its easy to call people town, especially so if you're mafia because you know you're right. And there's very little point in hiding your scum reads. Bring it up and make them talk more. That's how you actually catch scum.
Also, this post from MZ...while I'm glad he's focusing on something new, he's not saying anything here. I don't know if you think Grack is scum or you're just lecturing him on how to play @.@ Which is funny cause I also wasn't a huge fan of Grack's post.
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On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him Is this from a meta read on him? Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know?
You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual.
What else are you basing your suspicion from?
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Oh hey. This page for the win. Focal point numerically.
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On March 03 2019 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
I will lynch sentinel this cycle with a mayor vote by the way. Not only are his posts pointless blending but if you want an excuse for a policy lynch he is it.
A good ploicy lynch yes but would rather lynch a for certain scum though over policy lynching someone.
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On March 03 2019 04:51 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him Is this from a meta read on him? Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know? You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual. What else are you basing your suspicion from?
His baseless suspicion of me. I am low hanging fruit to a lot of players here, including Rayn. As town, most people know to pretty much ignore me early on, especially if I am doing the pure flavor stuff I was.
Yet I was a target all of a sudden.
That is a weaker case than the meta read though as I was unusual here.
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On March 03 2019 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him Is this from a meta read on him? Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know? You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual. What else are you basing your suspicion from? His baseless suspicion of me. I am low hanging fruit to a lot of players here, including Rayn. As town, most people know to pretty much ignore me early on, especially if I am doing the pure flavor stuff I was. Yet I was a target all of a sudden. That is a weaker case than the meta read though as I was unusual here.
He also didn’t lead with it, he just hopped on rsoul’s mild suspicion. Notice I actually townread her, yet not him
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On March 03 2019 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him Is this from a meta read on him? Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know? You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual. What else are you basing your suspicion from? His baseless suspicion of me. I am low hanging fruit to a lot of players here, including Rayn. As town, most people know to pretty much ignore me early on, especially if I am doing the pure flavor stuff I was. Yet I was a target all of a sudden. That is a weaker case than the meta read though as I was unusual here.
hmmm
That doesn't convince me at all.
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On March 03 2019 04:57 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him Is this from a meta read on him? Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know? You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual. What else are you basing your suspicion from? His baseless suspicion of me. I am low hanging fruit to a lot of players here, including Rayn. As town, most people know to pretty much ignore me early on, especially if I am doing the pure flavor stuff I was. Yet I was a target all of a sudden. That is a weaker case than the meta read though as I was unusual here. He also didn’t lead with it, he just hopped on rsoul’s mild suspicion. Notice I actually townread her, yet not him
Lol tbf I'm pretty sure rayn mentioned you first and I was the one aggreeing that you didn't look towny this game.
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I'm not going to be able to help myself this game.
I started drinking and catching up on the VOD for IEM.
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On March 03 2019 05:05 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm not going to be able to help myself this game.
I started drinking and catching up on the VOD for IEM.
I shall do it too in preparation to mix in with the local fauna later
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On March 03 2019 04:54 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
I will lynch sentinel this cycle with a mayor vote by the way. Not only are his posts pointless blending but if you want an excuse for a policy lynch he is it. A good ploicy lynch yes but would rather lynch a for certain scum though over policy lynching someone.
It's only a policy lynch if you ignore the fact he pops in every so often to say nothing. He also said he's town and then said he didn't read role pm.
Classic mafia trait to feel the need to post and have no influence to the thread whatsoever.
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On March 03 2019 04:51 rsoultin wrote:The experiment commences! I love experiments. Slam's in my no-lynch list today, too. And I'll grant HF the TT read cause that's totally what I did as scum I think a few times? For indeterminate feels reasons I disagree but that's kinda par for the course for me. Sentinel can hang if Chez/rayn aren't in the nooses. Jock's MZ reasoning makes me want to townread him. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 03:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I feel confident in this so far:
Vivax
Rayn
Jockmcplop
I think that Rayn is reading MZ's posts wrong but I believe that he's actually trying to reason out MZ's motivations for the posts that he makes. I don't think MZ's posts have been scummy.
I think Vivax's posts are very very likely to come from town Vivax.
There is one person that I have a gut feeling is scum but it's not worth getting into yet and I want to see more posts. I don't like posts like this. I see little value in just giving a slew of green reads and leaving out your one "gut feeling" Its easy to call people town, especially so if you're mafia because you know you're right. And there's very little point in hiding your scum reads. Bring it up and make them talk more. That's how you actually catch scum. Also, this post from MZ...while I'm glad he's focusing on something new, he's not saying anything here. I don't know if you think Grack is scum or you're just lecturing him on how to play @.@ Which is funny cause I also wasn't a huge fan of Grack's post.
I mean its hard to develop a full read off of a single post (possible but very difficult) but as you note yourself that was a super poor post from Grack. Like I've noted earlier I hate when people vaguely mention they have "suspicions" then don't talk about who they're suspcious of, I like to address things I don't like. And speaking of things I don't like, Grack's last few posts on this page have also been very poor imo.
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I'd like to survive long enough to figure out my role so I'm going to disagree with the Sentinel Policy Lynch
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On March 03 2019 04:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:57 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him Is this from a meta read on him? Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know? You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual. What else are you basing your suspicion from? His baseless suspicion of me. I am low hanging fruit to a lot of players here, including Rayn. As town, most people know to pretty much ignore me early on, especially if I am doing the pure flavor stuff I was. Yet I was a target all of a sudden. That is a weaker case than the meta read though as I was unusual here. He also didn’t lead with it, he just hopped on rsoul’s mild suspicion. Notice I actually townread her, yet not him Lol tbf I'm pretty sure rayn mentioned you first and I was the one aggreeing that you didn't look towny this game.
Rly? I don’t remember that.
Huh.
Yeah my impression of Rayn is biased but Mayhap we fight and discover.
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On March 03 2019 05:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'd like to survive long enough to figure out my role so I'm going to disagree with the Sentinel Policy Lynch
Ok well, you will be shot now or are scum
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ok i have finally caught up. herein lies the deal:
+ Show Spoiler [acrofales] +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. this post sucks bum & i hate it
+ Show Spoiler [rsoul] +On March 02 2019 17:14 rsoultin wrote:
It means you're doing the things you know I look for when I'm trying to get a read on you, which you've admitted to doing as mafia when I'm in a game. So while it makes me want to townread you I can't be as sure as I'd like to be :/
It's mostly tonal with Trfel. Seems really stiff at the start of the game with LS, even disregarding the smilies. There's a caveat here that I think will work itself out before EoD, though. i like the caveat part of this post because it shows some real gears turning behind the reads. everything else from her has been whatever (i will be interested eventually in what the caveat is)
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the way he entered the thread paints a target on his back in such a pointless and ridiculous way that it seems unlikely from mafia. however i hate it so i will be postponing townread until actual contribution
+ Show Spoiler [tictock] +On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I'm running for mayor and my platform is to lynch Trfel Meapak_Ziphh, hereafter referred to as Meap, is the first possible mafia sighting. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia  Cool who are your buddies? Can't you just check the QT?  Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool? No self respecting town person reads setup. You're mafia. This is outstanding analysis and I agree with it 100% Meh, HF's post is NAI for me (seems more like a general poke, than a real accusation) but my gut really seems to think Meap is mafia all the more for this. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice But how do we know that you're town here? For anyone to know that I'm town at this point, that person would have to be scum. I'm here to find scum and lynch them, not prove that I'm town by any means that aren't incidental to my stated goals. Do you know if youre town? This is prob just kus Rayn and I have very different personalities/outlooks, but these sort of questions bug me. It's really an accusation that FF is slipping that he is actually mafia, but it's very implied that FF means "anyone else" as he is unlikely to be thinking about his own position. So probably just a weak poke from Rayn, but I dislike. Mostly kus what sort of response do you expect from this question? How can it help you?
Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Cool who are your buddies? Can't you just check the QT? Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool? No self respecting town person reads setup. You're mafia. He already claimed mafia though didn't you read the opening of the game? No self respecting townie reads the whole thread. Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall. the commentary on meapak is just not good. i have no idea how he gets a scumread out of the first quoted post, and the second is strange because he attributes HF's post as a likely joke but not meapak's even though he is just affirming HF's joke. also the fact that this is labeled as a gut read despite giving reasoning anyway. i do like this though: On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet.
i came into this thinking i was gonna make a scum case on him but after actually reading the rest of his walls of text i'm not feeling it anymore. nothing else gives me the sketchy feeling
+ Show Spoiler [iamp] +townish because he has some nice takes in these two posts: On March 02 2019 16:19 iamperfection wrote:
wtf acro i read it again it and its even more useless the 2nd time On March 03 2019 04:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:25 Tubesock wrote:On March 03 2019 04:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 03 2019 04:05 Tubesock wrote:
There isn’t anyone I want to lynch.
If I were mayor I’d sheep Holyflare most likely for the 2nd lynch. I'm thinking I'd like to lynch you! Or are you making this guy mayor, Ace? That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said. how in the world can you think HF is for sure town? that is all.
+ Show Spoiler [trfel] +On March 02 2019 13:48 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:07 Conversion wrote:
I'd be happy to lynch him as of 9:07 PM EST though Sorry I'm not understanding, what specifically changed? In other news, my reason to be suspicious of raynpelikoneet was completely wrong, whoops. Never mind me. i think he's town for the second part of this post. just feels very odd to post as mafia. that's it
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i like him, he is clearly prodding people with purpose
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+ Show Spoiler [jock] +he seems very image conscious in his posts on meapak On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages On March 03 2019 03:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't wanna be focusing all on one guy but MZ is contradicting himself again while bringing up the same old discussion that derailed the first 2 pages. however i like this: On March 02 2019 20:15 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jockmcplop can you explain to me why you don't have a read on me (or whatever sticks out means here?) when my top scumread atm is your top scumread for basically the same reasons which i stated before you did? I think its your posting style more than anything. Our reads are the same but that doesn't mean anything if you're being objective about it. Instinctively I read you very town but something about the way you post bugs me enough to want to see a bit more before I read. i feel that there is a though process going on behind this. this places jock merely on the watch list
in summary acro and jock are scumleans, everyone else listed is either townlean or town
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On March 03 2019 05:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'd like to survive long enough to figure out my role so I'm going to disagree with the Sentinel Policy Lynch
then read ur feckin role
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On March 03 2019 05:17 Tumblewood wrote:ok i have finally caught up. herein lies the deal: + Show Spoiler [acrofales] +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. this post sucks bum & i hate it On March 02 2019 17:14 rsoultin wrote:
It means you're doing the things you know I look for when I'm trying to get a read on you, which you've admitted to doing as mafia when I'm in a game. So while it makes me want to townread you I can't be as sure as I'd like to be :/
It's mostly tonal with Trfel. Seems really stiff at the start of the game with LS, even disregarding the smilies. There's a caveat here that I think will work itself out before EoD, though. i like the caveat part of this post because it shows some real gears turning behind the reads. everything else from her has been whatever (i will be interested eventually in what the caveat is)
the way he entered the thread paints a target on his back in such a pointless and ridiculous way that it seems unlikely from mafia. however i hate it so i will be postponing townread until actual contribution
On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I'm running for mayor and my platform is to lynch Trfel Meapak_Ziphh, hereafter referred to as Meap, is the first possible mafia sighting. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Cool who are your buddies? Can't you just check the QT? Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool? No self respecting town person reads setup. You're mafia. This is outstanding analysis and I agree with it 100% Meh, HF's post is NAI for me (seems more like a general poke, than a real accusation) but my gut really seems to think Meap is mafia all the more for this. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice But how do we know that you're town here? For anyone to know that I'm town at this point, that person would have to be scum. I'm here to find scum and lynch them, not prove that I'm town by any means that aren't incidental to my stated goals. Do you know if youre town? This is prob just kus Rayn and I have very different personalities/outlooks, but these sort of questions bug me. It's really an accusation that FF is slipping that he is actually mafia, but it's very implied that FF means "anyone else" as he is unlikely to be thinking about his own position. So probably just a weak poke from Rayn, but I dislike. Mostly kus what sort of response do you expect from this question? How can it help you?
Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia Cool who are your buddies? Can't you just check the QT? Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool? No self respecting town person reads setup. You're mafia. He already claimed mafia though didn't you read the opening of the game? No self respecting townie reads the whole thread. Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall. the commentary on meapak is just not good. i have no idea how he gets a scumread out of the first quoted post, and the second is strange because he attributes HF's post as a likely joke but not meapak's even though he is just affirming HF's joke. also the fact that this is labeled as a gut read despite giving reasoning anyway. i do like this though: On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet.
i came into this thinking i was gonna make a scum case on him but after actually reading the rest of his walls of text i'm not feeling it anymore. nothing else gives me the sketchy feeling townish because he has some nice takes in these two posts: On March 02 2019 16:19 iamperfection wrote:
wtf acro i read it again it and its even more useless the 2nd time On March 03 2019 04:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:25 Tubesock wrote:On March 03 2019 04:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 03 2019 04:05 Tubesock wrote:
There isn’t anyone I want to lynch.
If I were mayor I’d sheep Holyflare most likely for the 2nd lynch. I'm thinking I'd like to lynch you! Or are you making this guy mayor, Ace? That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said. how in the world can you think HF is for sure town? that is all. On March 02 2019 13:48 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:07 Conversion wrote:
I'd be happy to lynch him as of 9:07 PM EST though Sorry I'm not understanding, what specifically changed? In other news, my reason to be suspicious of raynpelikoneet was completely wrong, whoops. Never mind me. i think he's town for the second part of this post. just feels very odd to post as mafia. that's it
i like him, he is clearly prodding people with purpose
he seems very image conscious in his posts on meapak On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages On March 03 2019 03:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't wanna be focusing all on one guy but MZ is contradicting himself again while bringing up the same old discussion that derailed the first 2 pages. however i like this: On March 02 2019 20:15 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jockmcplop can you explain to me why you don't have a read on me (or whatever sticks out means here?) when my top scumread atm is your top scumread for basically the same reasons which i stated before you did? I think its your posting style more than anything. Our reads are the same but that doesn't mean anything if you're being objective about it. Instinctively I read you very town but something about the way you post bugs me enough to want to see a bit more before I read. i feel that there is a though process going on behind this. this places jock merely on the watch list in summary acro and jock are scumleans, everyone else listed is either townlean or town
So I'm under suspicion for my tone, rather than the content of my posts?
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