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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 10 2019 21:52 GMT
#6721
it's wacky and i don't really wanna deal with it either but it feels wrong not to
good times for all
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2019 21:53 GMT
#6722
On March 11 2019 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i havr several conflicting impulses regarding chez and FF:
one is that i don't know why chez would claim hatter as mafia because it is way outta left field. potentially if there is a rolecop he found out and knew he could start a claim war but why would he start a war that he probably wouldn't win?
the second is that mafia could definitely capitalize on this weird semi-claim war and make the thread a total shitshow all day if chez and FF are town, but everyone seems to be ignoring it. if FF is scum it would be reasonable perhaps to push it but only sorta (esp. with FF saying "i could believe there are two" perhaps preserving himself if chez flips town)
third, i think FF is town from his filter, and his claim is plausible (besides him describing it as a "yolo claim" in the first claim post, which feels a little off)
in conclusion idk

yolo because now I have to play until endgame unless they have another roleblocker or roll the dice on me hitting scum
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 10 2019 21:53 GMT
#6723
On March 11 2019 06:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 06:49 Ace wrote:
On March 11 2019 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
@ace do u think chez or FF is scum? or neither?


I don't have a read on either. I just saw FF say something about a bomb on me though lol.

What does this even mean, did you read what I said or not?


I'm speed reading so I probably misread something. I thought I saw you say something about putting a bomb on me?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 10 2019 21:53 GMT
#6724
On March 11 2019 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i havr several conflicting impulses regarding chez and FF:
one is that i don't know why chez would claim hatter as mafia because it is way outta left field. potentially if there is a rolecop he found out and knew he could start a claim war but why would he start a war that he probably wouldn't win?
the second is that mafia could definitely capitalize on this weird semi-claim war and make the thread a total shitshow all day if chez and FF are town, but everyone seems to be ignoring it. if FF is scum it would be reasonable perhaps to push it but only sorta (esp. with FF saying "i could believe there are two" perhaps preserving himself if chez flips town)
third, i think FF is town from his filter, and his claim is plausible (besides him describing it as a "yolo claim" in the first claim post, which feels a little off)
in conclusion idk


Hence why I say, Table it for now and deal with it tomorrow?

I am like 99% sure Mafia want Chez v Ace to be happening right now.
I can take that responsibility.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2019 21:54 GMT
#6725
On March 11 2019 06:53 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 06:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 11 2019 06:49 Ace wrote:
On March 11 2019 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
@ace do u think chez or FF is scum? or neither?


I don't have a read on either. I just saw FF say something about a bomb on me though lol.

What does this even mean, did you read what I said or not?


I'm speed reading so I probably misread something. I thought I saw you say something about putting a bomb on me?

If I were to be nked N2 you would have been also hit with KP
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 10 2019 21:55 GMT
#6726
I feel like people are forgetting that DST happened and this lynch is over in 5 min...
I can take that responsibility.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 10 2019 21:55 GMT
#6727
Bah bah black sheep mode initiated. Don’t have the energy or time to think for myself this cycle. Acro I follow your lead wheresver it take me

#Vote: Ace
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2019 21:55 GMT
#6728
On March 11 2019 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i havr several conflicting impulses regarding chez and FF:
one is that i don't know why chez would claim hatter as mafia because it is way outta left field. potentially if there is a rolecop he found out and knew he could start a claim war but why would he start a war that he probably wouldn't win?
the second is that mafia could definitely capitalize on this weird semi-claim war and make the thread a total shitshow all day if chez and FF are town, but everyone seems to be ignoring it. if FF is scum it would be reasonable perhaps to push it but only sorta (esp. with FF saying "i could believe there are two" perhaps preserving himself if chez flips town)
third, i think FF is town from his filter, and his claim is plausible (besides him describing it as a "yolo claim" in the first claim post, which feels a little off)
in conclusion idk


Hence why I say, Table it for now and deal with it tomorrow?

I am like 99% sure Mafia want Chez v Ace to be happening right now.

why 99%? What?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2019 21:55 GMT
#6729
On March 11 2019 06:55 Tictock wrote:
I feel like people are forgetting that DST happened and this lynch is over in 5 min...

+1
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 10 2019 21:55 GMT
#6730
Hey man, read the Night 1 dead people
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 10 2019 21:57 GMT
#6731
lynch is in an hour, check the countdown timer on the vote count
good times for all
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 10 2019 21:57 GMT
#6732
Anyone have evidence of sent not being shit as scum because hes triee rly hard. Also does the timechange affect the lynch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2019 21:57 GMT
#6733
Wait lynch time is actually in 1 hour guys.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 10 2019 21:57 GMT
#6734
On March 11 2019 06:34 Ace wrote:
I think Sentinel is definitely the lynch for today. Sicklucker, he hasn't softclaimed cop. Sentinel can not be a cop in this instance regarding me. If he was, he'd tell all of us he found me red and go on with his day.

These 2 posts should give anyone pause:


Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 00:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Quick dive tells me Tictock is still mafia

##Vote: Ace



Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 00:18 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
will explain everything later


He has a town read on me yesterday. Now has a scum read on tick tock. Votes me. And will explain later? After the lynch when I flip town huh? Unless Sentinel is a cop trying to 2 for 1 and heavily believing I must be scum but has a red check on Tick Tock this makes no sense. Palmar wanting to lynch him, Scum voting HF to get Palmar lynched looks like a plausible idea of how Day 1 mayor played out. But I want to move on to something a bit more damning.

I know I weighed the Town down Day 2 with my HF push. Somehow this ignores my overwhelming reasons for why BH had to be town and was a bad lynch but people will believe what they want. I mistakenly dropped my scum read on BC and tunneled HF till it was too late. So cool - we're all on the same page to how I messed up. Now it seems I'm up for lynch because to some "I'm not Town enough".While I think outside of inactivity I haven't destroyed anything to be miscast this way, I'll do a bit of work.


First: 2 vigis + day vigi. One of them being an anti-lurk mechanism. Again, I know this is no longer considered a normal game. But it's bugging me. I also highly doubt we have only 1 active investigation role. Mafia has 3 KP AND a roleblocker. It doesn't take much for Mafia to counter town PRs in general, but that much KP when we've also seen a Vet flip in addition to a role blocker. They can mow through anyone (coming back to this in a bit) and yet we've only seen 1 doc and 1 cop flip. But we have that much town aligned KP, one of which based on mechanics could end up targeting only Town aligned players? Something is off. I might just be over reacting because no one has claimed any kind of investigation and it's Day 3 but I had to let it be known.

Second: I screwed up Day 2 not really looking into the NK. But the Night 2 kills do help us clear something up. Town vigis shoot damdred and BC. Mafia shoot rsoul/rayn/WoS. We know for a fact that anti-town KP is sitting at 3 (SK possibility).

Go back to Night 1. We now know there was a scum roleblocker in BC. Some combination of 2 KP hit iamperfection or he was RB + shot. Either way it shows a concerted effort to get this guy out of the game.

Here are his posts referencing people as Scum on Day 1 that are sill alive:

Onegu

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 08:55 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2019 08:54 Onegu wrote:
Aright LS..

##Vote: Rsoultin

obvious mafia what are you doing


Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 09:44 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2019 09:43 Onegu wrote:
Dont vigi me I know I didnt do much but I am green!

you need to die too


Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
Onegu not caring about the lynch coming back and really only talking about Raoul is extremely scummy. Probably because he is scum




Vivax

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 03:11 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 02:59 Vivax wrote:
Basically he let BH off the hook way too easily for it to be town iamp.

"if BH doesn't get lynched TL mafia is ded"
to
'"Let's vote the guy who's going to kill Palmar"


Why are you misrepresenting what happened. I screamed at every player in the game to vote bh.

It's clear I'm town and you not being able to see that is extremely confusing as we've played a few games together. My play is basically the opposite of my scum play in this game


Now of these 2 Vivax would be my best guess. Partially because my Day 1/2 had me pushing HF, and I ended up Townreading BC and Vivax out of confirmation bias. BC flipped scum. Vivax flipping scum for "agreeing" with my arguments wouldn't be surprising at all.


However, there's a 3rd player that's really, really confusing.

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 03:54 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 03:51 Acrofales wrote:
I mean, BH is gonna have to die or we're just gonna have this conversation til the end of days. But
On March 05 2019 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, sorry for the poor performance guys. Exo is either more perceptive than most of you, or scum looking for post flip cred, for talking to me like I'm town. Same with Ace.

I really didn't expect the thread to balloon so much. Thabks for killing me early, this is a good plynch. Good luck everyone, and have fun!


This while useless seems like a VT who doesn't want to play, and not like a scummer who doesn't want to play. He's at least dropping *some* kinda info there.

Note that this was pretty much simultaneous with Conversions shenanigans, so unless they are scum together (a possibility that we shouldn't disregard and why we need the flip), BH really thought he was getting lynched here, and this is his "last words".

He says nothing in that post what are you talking about. What are you reading


Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 03:44 Acrofales wrote:
On March 06 2019 03:35 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 03:34 Acrofales wrote:
On March 06 2019 03:14 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 06 2019 02:58 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2019 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
In case it got buried,vivax you need to explain why Iamp is top scum read. I'm not finding much aside from one recent post.


If I had a word to describe town iamp, it'd be something like crusader against bullshit.

He played the part pretty well yesterday when BH came back into the thread, but not for long enough to warrant that name since he decided to kill Palmar by voting HF over himself instead.

Well that's....pretty damning?
hmm.
Ok yeah going to need something from iamp on this. I can't for the life of me understand why he voted for HF.

How has nobody brought this up yet? Jesus.

Scummy post from you though. seems like you know hf is mafia?

When did you get so bad at this game?

Trying to bait me?

Well. You made a big bad case on me. That was bad.
Then you helped get Palmar killed for bad reasons. I even told you I went back and read his filter trying to read it as scum and couldn't, yet you just persisted and nailed him to the cross (holyflare might have dragged him up there, but you sure as shit helped hammer the nails in).

So if you're town, please stop being bad. We kinda need the help.
I don't trust you


And of course, iamp's only vote

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:57 iamperfection wrote:
##mayor: iamperfection
##vote: acrofales




Now this is where things are pretty crazy. There are 3 things that may be purely circumstance that paint Acro as scum.

1.) Iamp's posts and vote. Of course he was town in retrospect, but I really do believe he died for being correct about someone. The only thing that saves Acro imo is Scum having 4 conditional KP is wild. He could instead be 3rd party but let's put that on the backburner for now.

2.) On Day 2 someone asked me to read their case on Acro. I didn't find it convincing but I do faintly remember it being spoken about by others. Specifically I think it was rayne who asked me to comment on it but I didn't. Acro being anti-town and wanting them dead isn't out of the realm of possibility.

3.) That role claim. I just can't get around it existing in that form if it possibly end up targeting only Town players. One of chez/Pandain would have to be scum if his role is true. And I'd expect Acro to push one super hard off the damdred flip.

It could be purely circumstance that Acro falls into the puzzle like this but I doubt it. And reading his posts Day 2 and Day 3 they don't really scream scum that hard. Tricky shit :D

So what am I to do? I think my choices are down to Acro, Sentinel as the top 2. Vivax, Onegu needing a bit more looking through. I doubt I'll get any of them lynched as it's late into the day. But I think this is reason enough to scrutinize Acro more going forward. I think Sentinel is the most probable to flip scum at this moment and that's where my vote is going. Yes I know I can vote Chez to save myself, but Brown nation doesn't eat it's own


##Vote Sentinel
Honestly, I hve been thinking Acro is scum this cycle.

I thought he cooled off like me to reassess, but to see him come in the past 12hrs and try to push stuff in such a different tone.

I could lynch him for sure. .. Btw, who was going to push him again all D3.. Rayn.
Like literally, no one else.

Im not keen on lynching Ace at all. Hes either town or 3P. I dont care to figure it out this point of the game.
I feel Chez is a policy/lottery lynch.

I threw my bote on sentinel before this case, but, this certainly gives me no reason to remove either
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2019 21:58 GMT
#6735
On March 10 2019 08:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Just a reminder in case anyone missed it in the day post...daylight savings goes into effect tomorrow so you'll have one less hour than normal before the deadline.

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 10 2019 21:58 GMT
#6736
On March 11 2019 06:42 Tictock wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Sentinel


Jumping in closer to EoD than I'd like, but I like this lynch much better than where we were.

Also realized while digesting thoughts on the game that I was giving Rels a town pass far too easily, and need to dig into things more before I can be in anyway confident with a read on him.

Right... your voting the wagon that has BOTH of your other scum reads on it
Ace + Mocsta

fuck me. how are you meant to read you when you do this bullshit?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 10 2019 21:59 GMT
#6737
On March 11 2019 06:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 06:53 Tictock wrote:
On March 11 2019 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i havr several conflicting impulses regarding chez and FF:
one is that i don't know why chez would claim hatter as mafia because it is way outta left field. potentially if there is a rolecop he found out and knew he could start a claim war but why would he start a war that he probably wouldn't win?
the second is that mafia could definitely capitalize on this weird semi-claim war and make the thread a total shitshow all day if chez and FF are town, but everyone seems to be ignoring it. if FF is scum it would be reasonable perhaps to push it but only sorta (esp. with FF saying "i could believe there are two" perhaps preserving himself if chez flips town)
third, i think FF is town from his filter, and his claim is plausible (besides him describing it as a "yolo claim" in the first claim post, which feels a little off)
in conclusion idk


Hence why I say, Table it for now and deal with it tomorrow?

I am like 99% sure Mafia want Chez v Ace to be happening right now.

why 99%? What?


Chez just feels like a scape-goat lynch to me, and a lot of people were settling on him even before the role stuff happened.

I mean he's a solid lynch just for info, I just am going by my instincts atm.

I just think this lynch has the same feeling as D1 and D2 which were also both TvT. I'm reffering to how there have been 2 people up for lynch all day with no real alternatives being pursued.
I can take that responsibility.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 10 2019 21:59 GMT
#6738
On March 11 2019 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2019 08:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Just a reminder in case anyone missed it in the day post...daylight savings goes into effect tomorrow so you'll have one less hour than normal before the deadline.


ya we already lost that hour
good times for all
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 10 2019 22:00 GMT
#6739
Reminder that the lynch is in an hour from this post due to daylight savings.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 10 2019 22:00 GMT
#6740
On March 11 2019 06:48 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 06:40 Pandain wrote:
@ace Acro later said that he was only allowed to shoot people who had five or less posts the previous day cycle. AKA the choices were not given by the hosts.


No I get that part. What I'm saying is if only Townies satisfy the condition, you end up in a situation where a Pro-Town role is aiming KP at only Town.
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