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On March 06 2019 22:35 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i have no doubt in anyone's abilities to figure out all the wiggleses, onegus, blazinghands and aces in this game, i have serious doubts on 26/30 people's abilities to out-yell acrofales. That's ok. They don't have to out-yell me, they can just sheep me to a town victory.
Its ok I hang in USPol with acrofales he's all bark and bark and bark and bark and shit I fell asleep did he bite yet?
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On March 06 2019 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:32 Acrofales wrote:
But all of monday (the above post is made an hour and a bit before deadline), Palmar was deep diving people, engaging people, and hunting scum. Classifying that as "nothing of value" is nonsense.
So no, HF really didn't have much of a case on Palmar at all. Definitely not one that shows conviction, and certainly not one where he is trying to actually figure out if he's right or not. He parked the case on Sunday evening and didn't bother analysing anything Palmar did all of Monday.
Then why didn't we hear any of this stronger Eod? Why didn't you try to convince either of the mayors to lynch another suspect (you thought Sentinel is town)? Why didn't you try to convince Palmar on your Mocsta case and execute him (Palmar was scumreading Mocsta)?
Thats a fair point by rayn
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On March 06 2019 22:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day One final Vote Count
Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels
Not Voting (0):
Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar
Not Voting (0):
Holyflare is the Mayor and Trfel is lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 22:36 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 20:31 Palmar wrote:I don't like Conversion's filter. I especially hate this post: On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today.
did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?”
if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post. hmmm took me a few reads to understand this, and yes I get it now. If the read is strong, he would check it himself an ask for "have the position" as eloquently said. If the read is weak, he should sheep,which he does not allude to in the slightest. Even considering he is busy this is very lazy for town play. Good pick up and Im happy to vote ##Vote:;Conversion Why did you vote for Palmar to be mayor lynched again? You're literally sheeping him on his Conversion case while voting for him to be killed by HF. refer to https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27285456
Ur turn on ace now pls
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On March 05 2019 08:15 Vivax wrote:
Iamp when you're mafia, you can just keep going on, get elected, and kill someone else entirely than BH and then bullshit it away for some reason. That's what HF would do.
I think this was funny.
Now HF is scum for DOING what he said he’d do.
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On March 06 2019 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:32 Acrofales wrote:
But all of monday (the above post is made an hour and a bit before deadline), Palmar was deep diving people, engaging people, and hunting scum. Classifying that as "nothing of value" is nonsense.
So no, HF really didn't have much of a case on Palmar at all. Definitely not one that shows conviction, and certainly not one where he is trying to actually figure out if he's right or not. He parked the case on Sunday evening and didn't bother analysing anything Palmar did all of Monday.
Then why didn't we hear any of this stronger Eod? Why didn't you try to convince either of the mayors to lynch another suspect (you thought Sentinel is town)? Why didn't you try to convince Palmar on your Mocsta case and execute him (Palmar was scumreading Mocsta)?
In what world was I not trying?
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Acrofales&page=7
Also, my Mocsta case? Huh? I haven't cased Mocsta. I definitely didn't case him D1. Last thoughts on D1 about him:
On March 05 2019 08:04 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. Filtered mocsta. He doesn't look as bad as I thought he did at all. But the exchange with Palmar definitely was mocsta overreacting. I didn't read that as Palmar shutting him down. I read it as mocsta overreacting to Palmar poking him a bit for some reads/reaction. They could easily both be town from that exchange.
Koshi, stop being so exciteable.
My thoughts of Mocsta haven't actually changed much. He has some weird inconsistencies that make me keep doubting his towniness, but there's like at least 10 people in this game scummier than him.
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On March 06 2019 22:40 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:38 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2019 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day One final Vote Count
Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels
Not Voting (0):
Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar
Not Voting (0):
Holyflare is the Mayor and Trfel is lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . On March 04 2019 22:36 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 20:31 Palmar wrote:I don't like Conversion's filter. I especially hate this post: On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today.
did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?”
if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post. hmmm took me a few reads to understand this, and yes I get it now. If the read is strong, he would check it himself an ask for "have the position" as eloquently said. If the read is weak, he should sheep,which he does not allude to in the slightest. Even considering he is busy this is very lazy for town play. Good pick up and Im happy to vote ##Vote:;Conversion Why did you vote for Palmar to be mayor lynched again? You're literally sheeping him on his Conversion case while voting for him to be killed by HF. refer to https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27285456Ur turn on ace now pls
If anyone who was on the palmar for mayor wagon comments on the post you're linking to and tells me he understands what you're trying to say in that weird way and/or tells me that it actually answers the question why you killed the guy you were sheeping, I will comment on ace.
You shouldn't expect much from me commenting on ace anyway cause in my mind he's just a mislynch being pushed by my scumreads.
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On March 06 2019 22:47 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2019 22:32 Acrofales wrote:
But all of monday (the above post is made an hour and a bit before deadline), Palmar was deep diving people, engaging people, and hunting scum. Classifying that as "nothing of value" is nonsense.
So no, HF really didn't have much of a case on Palmar at all. Definitely not one that shows conviction, and certainly not one where he is trying to actually figure out if he's right or not. He parked the case on Sunday evening and didn't bother analysing anything Palmar did all of Monday.
Then why didn't we hear any of this stronger Eod? Why didn't you try to convince either of the mayors to lynch another suspect (you thought Sentinel is town)? Why didn't you try to convince Palmar on your Mocsta case and execute him (Palmar was scumreading Mocsta)? In what world was I not trying? https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Acrofales&page=7Also, my Mocsta case? Huh? I haven't cased Mocsta. I definitely didn't case him D1. Last thoughts on D1 about him: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:04 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. Filtered mocsta. He doesn't look as bad as I thought he did at all. But the exchange with Palmar definitely was mocsta overreacting. I didn't read that as Palmar shutting him down. I read it as mocsta overreacting to Palmar poking him a bit for some reads/reaction. They could easily both be town from that exchange.
Koshi, stop being so exciteable. My thoughts of Mocsta haven't actually changed much. He has some weird inconsistencies that make me keep doubting his towniness, but there's like at least 10 people in this game scummier than him. hmmmm this is true
I filter dived u referencing me and u r consistent. I will give u that.
Thats town points because yes. U could have easily swayed palmar onto me. Easy to justify mislynch
Im disappointed u still think im scummy but whatevz. 10ppl above is not in the scum team so i can live with that
Kk. Now lm:lurk; is over. Good night
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On March 06 2019 22:49 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:40 Mocsta wrote:On March 06 2019 22:38 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2019 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day One final Vote Count
Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels
Not Voting (0):
Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar
Not Voting (0):
Holyflare is the Mayor and Trfel is lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . On March 04 2019 22:36 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 20:31 Palmar wrote:I don't like Conversion's filter. I especially hate this post: On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today.
did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?”
if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post. hmmm took me a few reads to understand this, and yes I get it now. If the read is strong, he would check it himself an ask for "have the position" as eloquently said. If the read is weak, he should sheep,which he does not allude to in the slightest. Even considering he is busy this is very lazy for town play. Good pick up and Im happy to vote ##Vote:;Conversion Why did you vote for Palmar to be mayor lynched again? You're literally sheeping him on his Conversion case while voting for him to be killed by HF. refer to https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27285456Ur turn on ace now pls If anyone who was on the palmar for mayor wagon comments on the post you're linking to and tells me he understands what you're trying to say in that weird way and/or tells me that it actually answers the question why you killed the guy you were sheeping, I will comment on ace. You shouldn't expect much from me commenting on ace anyway cause in my mind he's just a mislynch being pushed by my scumreads.
If im a real rwad. Why arent u challenging me on what is weird. Or ehat u dont understand.. i cant read yoyr mind either you know.
Town laser focus vivax is quite different to whatever u r trying to portray
This post of yours is heavily edited/refined.
Its very interrsting yoy want tl avoid commenting on ace so badly.
I didnt even ask u to read my postit was. Pls comment on 2page filter.
Literally 1%of the game. The easiest request anyone could have of you and u wont oblige.
Further. As this scum read of urs. I expect yoy to be interested in confirming / validating your read. You shoukd have a vested interest in assessing why im even asking your opinion of ace
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On March 06 2019 22:32 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2019 22:01 Tubesock wrote:
I’d scum the shit out if HF if he platformed killing Palmar, cased and scumread him, and didn’t kill him. Maybe MAYBE not if he killed scum instead. I think I’d still think he could be scum for killing a lurker mafia.
To me the ONLY plausible reason to scumread HF is because he said he tried to change it. And even that is 50/50 really. Everything else he’s done has been good for town.
People say he has a big ego, you think he thought Palmar was scum and wouldn’t shoot for epic plays???
You voters should be arguing that HF didn’t really believe his Palmar case.
But you can’t cause he did. This! This is the thing that makes all "HF is scum" believers either retards or mafia. You're scumming me, but I literally did that. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 20:50 Acrofales wrote:
I know you're new here, but what the hell is this? Doing "specifically pro-mafia stuff" is stuff town doesn't do. You say it's a bad read, but him killing Palmar was almost entirely off his ego being too big for Palmar to beat him in a mayor election. There isn't even any townie reasoning there, it is entirely based on "goal 1": the town isn't big enough for the two of them, so he kills Palmar. It wasn't a "bad read". It wasn't a read at all. I don't have time right now to collect all my notes in one place, but this is clearly important. So here is his Palmar case: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 18:14 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 18:09 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 04 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
My mayor lynch will be on Palmar by the way. I can get behind this, but what's the reasoning behind it? Only talks about town reads, has no suspicions on pretty much anything in the game. Perpetuates nonsense policy lynch after he likes Sentinel's effort when he hasn't even read it. His last post about acro is entirely a wall of hedge whereby he looks like he's falsely weighing up Acro's alignment but really it's wishy washy and says nothing. His iamp read looks completely bs too for similar reasons to his acro read. Iamp is town but wait here's reasons I can say he's not town later in the game. None of this is concrete town palmar stuff. There's also the fact we can acknowledge that mafia were pushing for his candidacy if he does flip mafia  This was on sunday evening, when he was mostly right that Palmar hadn't played much yet. But they were both around all of monday, and nothing happened except HF's ego got more hurt: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar (11): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, Acrofales, Vivax, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, Trfel, Blazinghand
How has this guy got 11 people voting for him when his sole policy is only to kill Sentinel who doesn't even look bad?
Almost the entirety, if not THE entirety of this wagon is the sketchiest people in this game. It's even growing! And this one is blatantly false: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
Especially now that more people are actually voting him when he has said nothing else of value. Like... I did the exercise at the time, and tried to read Palmar as scum. I got through the weekend thinking he might be right, because Palmar posted a policy lynch and a bunch of town reads. I did find he was throwing off townie vibes, but figured it might have been him throwing me a green read to bedazzle me. But all of monday (the above post is made an hour and a bit before deadline), Palmar was deep diving people, engaging people, and hunting scum. Classifying that as "nothing of value" is nonsense. So no, HF really didn't have much of a case on Palmar at all. Definitely not one that shows conviction, and certainly not one where he is trying to actually figure out if he's right or not. He parked the case on Sunday evening and didn't bother analysing anything Palmar did all of Monday. Now I get that HF is apparently an egomaniac, but he is completely uncritical of his read. He doesn't return to it, just reiterates any time anybody asks that he will kill Palmar. Lamp and Koshi come to their own conclusions of Palmar. They were obviously wrong, but you can see their thought process and you can see Koshi engage with Palmar about it. Not so at all with HF.
This is pretty misconstrued. Who did Palmar want to kill other than sentinel? Who the fuck knows until right near deadline where he finally posted something and also spammed wiggles. This also isn't all I posted in the slightest:
On March 05 2019 10:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 09:53 marvellosity wrote:
HF mate, why did you actually kill Palmar?
I don't want a quote from your posts, just the actual reason(s) ? I thought his early posts were colossally bad. I didn't like how he kept coming up with reasons to read people one way or another that on closer inspection turned out to be massively false and then he'd just brush it away. This happened with: Rayn - where he came up with some factually incorrect meta and falsehoods in this game that got disproved and then called out by Rayn himself and Palmar just hand waved it away LS read - where he tried to further his incorrect point that he must be right on LS because rsoul and damdred agreed with him (and also therefore damdred must be town because they agreed on LS(????????????????)). It turned out neither of them really agreed anymore but he didn't update that read on damdred At the time I submitted the vote on palmar he had only 2 real attempts at scum reads and they turned out to be hedges instead on both acro and iamp so he really had no scum reads. He only started trying to scum read people after I called him out on it. Outside of Palmar himself there was an overwhelming wagon building on Palmar's mayorship out of nowhere. He had only stated that he was going to lynch sentinel and then after Sentinel posted not bad walls of text he never updated that read. His wagon kept growing but with nobody really casting doubt on Sentinel further (other than like 1-2 people) so Palmar seemed to be in direct contention with my mayor votes for absolutely no reason whatsoever (I even had sentinel as my lynch policy for a long while). I ultimately ended up still lynching Palmar: A) because my vote was locked in and I never really got to change it to BH when your slot and vivax saved him B) I would much rather have fun with a lynch on a really polarising player to lynch instead of some shitty policy lynch anyway that may or may not have actually turned into a scum BH. We now have about 100 different reads on this lynch and we have the flip to boot. It wouldn't have been the same if Palmar didn't flip either. I was tempted to vote some non-entity but that's really really fucking boring and wouldn't be fun.
Palmar - (wishy washy Iamp post, wishy washy Acro post. I call him out that he has no solid scum reads and he has to hunker down and scum read someone. Defaults to Sentinel still, can't see any motivation from sentinel other than scum motivation. He then makes some bs analysis of the wagons acknowledging that his wagon is the most scum motivated one to follow but doesn't use that to reevaluate anything and doesn't question which of the people on the wagon are scummy. He defends Pandain who has literally posted nothing but coaching. This whole post to town read Damdred is so unnecessarily OTT it's ridiculous https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=88#1750Makes a movement for Rayn to be mafia based on Rayn's activity which hasn't meant anything since a long time now. Doesn't even get what Rayn said correct. Doesn't even know what Damdred/Rsoul posted about LS. Not interested in figuring out game, instead tried to use others to prove his point. Wants to vote Conversion because Conversion was lazy but attributes it to mafia motivation instead of just someone being lazy. That's the crux of his entire read. Fakes some floundering on it when Conversion posts some irl excuse, seems pretty forced. After nothing in between Conversion drops off max scum vote list and is replaced with lurker and policy lynch. Not great at all.)
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On March 06 2019 22:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day One final Vote Count
Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels
Not Voting (0):
Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar
Not Voting (0):
Holyflare is the Mayor and Trfel is lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 22:36 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 20:31 Palmar wrote:I don't like Conversion's filter. I especially hate this post: On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today.
did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?”
if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post. hmmm took me a few reads to understand this, and yes I get it now. If the read is strong, he would check it himself an ask for "have the position" as eloquently said. If the read is weak, he should sheep,which he does not allude to in the slightest. Even considering he is busy this is very lazy for town play. Good pick up and Im happy to vote ##Vote:;Conversion Why did you vote for Palmar to be mayor lynched again? You're literally sheeping him on his Conversion case while voting for him to be killed by HF.
Are you fucking serious LOL
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My initial problem with you was how much time you seemed to be spending on your townreads vs. scumreads with pokes that didn't seem to lead anywhere being the rest of your filter. But on a reread it looks better largely cause I can see the read progression on some of the players.
Can you please explain your read on Palmar D1 and what made you okay with a Conversion lynch?
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On March 06 2019 22:32 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2019 22:01 Tubesock wrote:
I’d scum the shit out if HF if he platformed killing Palmar, cased and scumread him, and didn’t kill him. Maybe MAYBE not if he killed scum instead. I think I’d still think he could be scum for killing a lurker mafia.
To me the ONLY plausible reason to scumread HF is because he said he tried to change it. And even that is 50/50 really. Everything else he’s done has been good for town.
People say he has a big ego, you think he thought Palmar was scum and wouldn’t shoot for epic plays???
You voters should be arguing that HF didn’t really believe his Palmar case.
But you can’t cause he did. This! This is the thing that makes all "HF is scum" believers either retards or mafia. You're scumming me, but I literally did that. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 20:50 Acrofales wrote:
I know you're new here, but what the hell is this? Doing "specifically pro-mafia stuff" is stuff town doesn't do. You say it's a bad read, but him killing Palmar was almost entirely off his ego being too big for Palmar to beat him in a mayor election. There isn't even any townie reasoning there, it is entirely based on "goal 1": the town isn't big enough for the two of them, so he kills Palmar. It wasn't a "bad read". It wasn't a read at all. I don't have time right now to collect all my notes in one place, but this is clearly important. So here is his Palmar case: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 18:14 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 18:09 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 04 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
My mayor lynch will be on Palmar by the way. I can get behind this, but what's the reasoning behind it? Only talks about town reads, has no suspicions on pretty much anything in the game. Perpetuates nonsense policy lynch after he likes Sentinel's effort when he hasn't even read it. His last post about acro is entirely a wall of hedge whereby he looks like he's falsely weighing up Acro's alignment but really it's wishy washy and says nothing. His iamp read looks completely bs too for similar reasons to his acro read. Iamp is town but wait here's reasons I can say he's not town later in the game. None of this is concrete town palmar stuff. There's also the fact we can acknowledge that mafia were pushing for his candidacy if he does flip mafia This was on sunday evening, when he was mostly right that Palmar hadn't played much yet. But they were both around all of monday, and nothing happened except HF's ego got more hurt: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar (11): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, Acrofales, Vivax, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, Trfel, Blazinghand
How has this guy got 11 people voting for him when his sole policy is only to kill Sentinel who doesn't even look bad?
Almost the entirety, if not THE entirety of this wagon is the sketchiest people in this game. It's even growing! And this one is blatantly false: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
Especially now that more people are actually voting him when he has said nothing else of value. Like... I did the exercise at the time, and tried to read Palmar as scum. I got through the weekend thinking he might be right, because Palmar posted a policy lynch and a bunch of town reads. I did find he was throwing off townie vibes, but figured it might have been him throwing me a green read to bedazzle me. But all of monday (the above post is made an hour and a bit before deadline), Palmar was deep diving people, engaging people, and hunting scum. Classifying that as "nothing of value" is nonsense. So no, HF really didn't have much of a case on Palmar at all. Definitely not one that shows conviction, and certainly not one where he is trying to actually figure out if he's right or not. He parked the case on Sunday evening and didn't bother analysing anything Palmar did all of Monday.
Now I get that HF is apparently an egomaniac, but he is completely uncritical of his read. He doesn't return to it, just reiterates any time anybody asks that he will kill Palmar. Lamp and Koshi come to their own conclusions of Palmar. They were obviously wrong, but you can see their thought process and you can see Koshi engage with Palmar about it. Not so at all with HF.
You're directing this at the wrong person. HF actually addressed the posts that Palmar made on Monday. Rayn didn't and he voted HF for mayor so that HF would kill Palmar without commenting on what Palmar wrote about Sentinel/Conversion/Mocsta.
I have a lot more belief that HF had conviction in his Palmar read than I do that Rayn did.
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On March 06 2019 21:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh right Onegu is defs mafia too, he hasn't said anything about me all game.
Lol this isnt a thing Rayn... Havent said anything about anyone that havent been on as the same time as me... I would say that isnt my scum meta but I do try to mix things up as scum. But meh. I thought Iamp dropped his scum read of me but I checked and he didn't RIP.
Honestly I dont really like large games. Im just to lazy to read 100+ pages in less than a week. But since this might be the last game on here for a while and peer pressure I joined.
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On March 06 2019 22:47 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2019 22:32 Acrofales wrote:
But all of monday (the above post is made an hour and a bit before deadline), Palmar was deep diving people, engaging people, and hunting scum. Classifying that as "nothing of value" is nonsense.
So no, HF really didn't have much of a case on Palmar at all. Definitely not one that shows conviction, and certainly not one where he is trying to actually figure out if he's right or not. He parked the case on Sunday evening and didn't bother analysing anything Palmar did all of Monday.
Then why didn't we hear any of this stronger Eod? Why didn't you try to convince either of the mayors to lynch another suspect (you thought Sentinel is town)? Why didn't you try to convince Palmar on your Mocsta case and execute him (Palmar was scumreading Mocsta)? In what world was I not trying?
We have a very different definition of trying if your "trying" is saying "Koshi mayor" and then after 30 mins "Koshi mayor isn't goin anywhere".
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On March 05 2019 08:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:08 Palmar wrote:
I think all the mafia wants to kill Trfel.
I'd rather kill BH at the moment, but have no strong opnions on either.
I think we should kill Wiggles or BC or Sentinel, that'd be just the best. That doesn't make Trfel not mafia
Lol
Vivax
So conversely. 3 confirmed town wanting someone dead doesnt make that person mafia
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On March 06 2019 22:47 Acrofales wrote:
Also, my Mocsta case? Huh? I haven't cased Mocsta. I definitely didn't case him D1
I never said you cased him. I said you scumread him and Palmar scumread him, which you both did.
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On March 06 2019 02:37 Vivax wrote:
Anyway, here's my 100% scummers in case I die.
Iamp, Oats, Marv, Sentinel.
My 50 % scummers. Half of those are townies.
rsoultin, Wiggles, Pandain, ExO, BH, TS
Rayn not mafia cause can't be mafia with iamp in 9/10 cases.
HF just decided to be a selfish dumbass and shit up the game and hurt my feelings, but alas, he's town by PoE. He literally doesn't give a shit about being townread when town. All he cares about is that people are wrong about him no matter his alignment so he can pat himself on the back.
Hi vivax
Why swap on hf from this?
Why arent i on this?
Why arent u following up on oats and sentinel?
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Sentinel
BH
Rayn
3 players very very likely to be scum.
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Btw Holyflare. I would not in a million years shoot koshi in this game N1 if i was mafia. I can honestly say i would stack all my KP onto marv, deal with iamp +1 day and let the town kill themselves. That si a response to you saying something like "looks like rayn kills".
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Oh, I'd totally kill them lol >< HF wasn't wrong about that
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