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Rayn who is the lynch tomorrow? And who dies tonight?
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WaveofShadow
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March 08 2019 16:31 GMT
#5916
On March 09 2019 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On March 08 2019 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote: No but maybe somebody will bite off his ear. Thank you this made my day Always a pleasure. Rayn who is the lynch tomorrow? And who dies tonight? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 16:34 GMT
#5920
I'm still on acro town but I've been slacking so | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 16:35 GMT
#5921
On March 09 2019 01:34 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2019 01:30 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:28 rsoultin wrote: On March 08 2019 17:57 rsoultin wrote: BC/DF/ExO_ -> BC sounds angry no one wants to lynch me for playing 'bad' rather than being scum lol >< DF is a non-entity or a broken record even when he's supposedly here. Not his town game ExO_ HF's reasons and he's not being obnoxious Ace <-tonal gut thing I'll try to figure out later. reminds me a little of wherebugsgo when he was scum during this d2 phase Maybe Chez. Town explanation reaction-fishing for reads. No follow-through. I'm missing someone on BH I'm pretty sure. ExO_ can't be the only one there. But when I look there's 5-6 names I'm not too sure of. @Slam And I like the case on Wiggles in a vacuum, so just lob him in. I don't like this list. I don't know why exactly. Maybe cause it doesn't contain sentinel or Pandain. I also would find it incredibly convenient if both Ace and bc were scum. I'm pretty sure it's one or neither. -shrugs- I'm not townreading them. As for Ace and BC...I don't know why exactly you think they can't both be scum? Are you townreading one of them? Not sure. Seems unlikely they both go hard on HF the way they have as scum though. Most likely 1:1 or both town. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 16:43 GMT
#5926
On March 09 2019 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: And it's the easiest thing ever to emulate as mafia. This is fair. It's also the timing; there have been a couple times where they both come into thread storming away at him at the same time. Just seems unlikely. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 16:44 GMT
#5928
On March 09 2019 01:40 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2019 01:35 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:34 rsoultin wrote: On March 09 2019 01:30 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:28 rsoultin wrote: On March 08 2019 17:57 rsoultin wrote: BC/DF/ExO_ -> BC sounds angry no one wants to lynch me for playing 'bad' rather than being scum lol >< DF is a non-entity or a broken record even when he's supposedly here. Not his town game ExO_ HF's reasons and he's not being obnoxious Ace <-tonal gut thing I'll try to figure out later. reminds me a little of wherebugsgo when he was scum during this d2 phase Maybe Chez. Town explanation reaction-fishing for reads. No follow-through. I'm missing someone on BH I'm pretty sure. ExO_ can't be the only one there. But when I look there's 5-6 names I'm not too sure of. @Slam And I like the case on Wiggles in a vacuum, so just lob him in. I don't like this list. I don't know why exactly. Maybe cause it doesn't contain sentinel or Pandain. I also would find it incredibly convenient if both Ace and bc were scum. I'm pretty sure it's one or neither. -shrugs- I'm not townreading them. As for Ace and BC...I don't know why exactly you think they can't both be scum? Are you townreading one of them? Not sure. Seems unlikely they both go hard on HF the way they have as scum though. Most likely 1:1 or both town. Eh, this sort of argument especially before any scum flips is never terribly convincing to me, I guess. BC didn't seem to go hard on anything? Granted I was reading after the fact but it seemed more like RANTYYELLYRAGEY -peace out- heh That's BC though. Are you the meta type? Go look at past games of his. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 16:52 GMT
#5935
On March 09 2019 01:47 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2019 01:44 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:40 rsoultin wrote: On March 09 2019 01:35 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:34 rsoultin wrote: On March 09 2019 01:30 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:28 rsoultin wrote: On March 08 2019 17:57 rsoultin wrote: BC/DF/ExO_ -> BC sounds angry no one wants to lynch me for playing 'bad' rather than being scum lol >< DF is a non-entity or a broken record even when he's supposedly here. Not his town game ExO_ HF's reasons and he's not being obnoxious Ace <-tonal gut thing I'll try to figure out later. reminds me a little of wherebugsgo when he was scum during this d2 phase Maybe Chez. Town explanation reaction-fishing for reads. No follow-through. I'm missing someone on BH I'm pretty sure. ExO_ can't be the only one there. But when I look there's 5-6 names I'm not too sure of. @Slam And I like the case on Wiggles in a vacuum, so just lob him in. I don't like this list. I don't know why exactly. Maybe cause it doesn't contain sentinel or Pandain. I also would find it incredibly convenient if both Ace and bc were scum. I'm pretty sure it's one or neither. -shrugs- I'm not townreading them. As for Ace and BC...I don't know why exactly you think they can't both be scum? Are you townreading one of them? Not sure. Seems unlikely they both go hard on HF the way they have as scum though. Most likely 1:1 or both town. Eh, this sort of argument especially before any scum flips is never terribly convincing to me, I guess. BC didn't seem to go hard on anything? Granted I was reading after the fact but it seemed more like RANTYYELLYRAGEY -peace out- heh That's BC though. Are you the meta type? Go look at past games of his. I am but it's a slog to get the nuances and not just the does x yell or not, so I think I won't bother unless I'm actually still in the game tomorrow. #lazyrsoulislazy I have no doubt that he's...ahem...acerbic? in general. Unless you're saying the yelling itself is alignment indicative? I don't. You seem to think it is though if you're calling him out for ranting and then leaving. | ||
WaveofShadow
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March 08 2019 16:54 GMT
#5937
On March 09 2019 01:51 Vivax wrote: Seems like you put it there just to make it seem like it's a possibility you are seriously entertaining when you should know it is extremely unlikely. Hey I'd love to be wrong about her cause it would make my day easier. As things stand any NKs outside those I've mentioned should be actually quite informative. Hell even the ones I have mentioned. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 17:04 GMT
#5942
On March 09 2019 02:02 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2019 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:47 rsoultin wrote: On March 09 2019 01:44 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:40 rsoultin wrote: On March 09 2019 01:35 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:34 rsoultin wrote: On March 09 2019 01:30 WaveofShadow wrote: On March 09 2019 01:28 rsoultin wrote: On March 08 2019 17:57 rsoultin wrote: BC/DF/ExO_ -> BC sounds angry no one wants to lynch me for playing 'bad' rather than being scum lol >< DF is a non-entity or a broken record even when he's supposedly here. Not his town game ExO_ HF's reasons and he's not being obnoxious Ace <-tonal gut thing I'll try to figure out later. reminds me a little of wherebugsgo when he was scum during this d2 phase Maybe Chez. Town explanation reaction-fishing for reads. No follow-through. I'm missing someone on BH I'm pretty sure. ExO_ can't be the only one there. But when I look there's 5-6 names I'm not too sure of. @Slam And I like the case on Wiggles in a vacuum, so just lob him in. I don't like this list. I don't know why exactly. Maybe cause it doesn't contain sentinel or Pandain. I also would find it incredibly convenient if both Ace and bc were scum. I'm pretty sure it's one or neither. -shrugs- I'm not townreading them. As for Ace and BC...I don't know why exactly you think they can't both be scum? Are you townreading one of them? Not sure. Seems unlikely they both go hard on HF the way they have as scum though. Most likely 1:1 or both town. Eh, this sort of argument especially before any scum flips is never terribly convincing to me, I guess. BC didn't seem to go hard on anything? Granted I was reading after the fact but it seemed more like RANTYYELLYRAGEY -peace out- heh That's BC though. Are you the meta type? Go look at past games of his. I am but it's a slog to get the nuances and not just the does x yell or not, so I think I won't bother unless I'm actually still in the game tomorrow. #lazyrsoulislazy I have no doubt that he's...ahem...acerbic? in general. Unless you're saying the yelling itself is alignment indicative? I don't. You seem to think it is though if you're calling him out for ranting and then leaving. As with many things, the way in which people do things is more important than the what. You're welcome to elaborate. | ||
WaveofShadow
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March 08 2019 17:23 GMT
#5954
On March 09 2019 02:18 LightningStrike wrote: Dat typo Acro lmao. But more serious note though there is probably lurking scum based on EoD1 wagon somewhere but idk who it is though. Will dive in later. Also, water is wet. More at 11. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 17:33 GMT
#5962
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WaveofShadow
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March 08 2019 17:34 GMT
#5963
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WaveofShadow
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March 08 2019 17:37 GMT
#5966
On March 09 2019 02:35 LightningStrike wrote: Tina is town though Vivax because of her qt thing with Rels. She could of kept quiet and told her scummates in the scum qt instead of just blurting it out in the thread the way she did. I don't feel this alignment indicative at all. She could very well have done both. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 20:40 GMT
#6011
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 20:41 GMT
#6014
On March 09 2019 05:39 Holyflare wrote: How do you know it's fake at all? I dunno why anyone even assumed that. Stop with this. You said you're self you were going to stop spamming up the thread, then ignore this shit and do something else. Also again, dumb behaviour like claiming D1 earns you dumb behaviour from other people | ||
WaveofShadow
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March 08 2019 20:42 GMT
#6015
On March 09 2019 05:40 Holyflare wrote: I dunno why you're so angry with me lol :D I'm sorry you rolled mafia? Me? I was talking about Pandain and Ace. Check yourself, son. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 20:55 GMT
#6022
On March 06 2019 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really think we should lynch Acrofales and i don't think anything is going to change my mind this phase anymore. He has now given himself a perfect narrative to do absolutely nothing than sound like a broken record repeating Holyflare is mafia because he did a stupid thing. The problem is if you don't kill him right now even if we lynch another mafia after N2 too many influential players are going to be dead and he will simply yell over anyone who's left and town and you will get irritated and lose interest to play. I know this because it's how i used to play as scum. Here is a list why Acrofales is mafia:
I encourage everyone to put your votes on Acrofales. All these Lighntingstrikes and Alakaslams need to get their heads out of their asses. Wave if you want to spend the rest of the game with scum 5-years-ago-rayn then be my guest and have your vote on HF as policy but don't complain after the game, especially in case Acrofales at some point decides to call you mafia and wants to have you lynched. You will not like it a single bit. The truth is Holyflare executing his scumread Palmar, however bad or stupid you may think that is, isn't actually even close to a good reasoning of him being mafia. I agree on the case on Ace. I had more thought on it and i think the fact that he was actually aware of Trfel (or at least looked like he is) suggests that it is more likely he did in fact know what Holyflare was about to do. I know a lot of people are saying Ace is too good as scum to do something like that but i don't believe that is the case. I think Ace decided he can use his activity as an excuse to "not know HF is gonna lynch Palmar", aka that he didn't see it, and did the numbers and thought he can get away with it. Also Ace is not like some fucking mafia god that doesn't make any mistakes. + Show Spoiler + I caught him once because scum nuked meapak and i went to fakeclaim the nuke when for any player who doesn't have TMI that nuke never comes from mafia. Ace got confused and started gunning on me being mafia completely ignoring the fact before. And he couldn't even keep his story straight. So yeah, it's not like Ace alwasy does the most optimal play as mafia. Mr.Wiggles is also mafia but that's for tomorrow. Calling out Acro on hypocrisy---fine and all but that just never ends up being how scum out themselves. I agree he scumread iamp way too long (and that was odd) but iamp's case on him was fairly weak to begin with. I can agree with your bringing up that Acro hasn't done a whole lot (that I can remember off the top of my head) since latching onto HF and I talk about that a little closer to the bottom---that feels like it's wroth looking into mroe as time passes. I don't think people should be taking free passes on HF at all despite that large garbagey post by Ace. I have to look into Acro himself a little closer. On March 07 2019 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is the last addition to my points on Acrofales, after this i will stop and probably afk. Show nested quote + On March 06 2019 00:29 Acrofales wrote: [...] So. Lets see, where does rsoultin go with her investigation into Palmar. I tell you, it's nowhere. She doesn't try to engage with Palmar. She doesn't analyse Palmar's posts. Nada. She just throws shade: On March 03 2019 18:32 rsoultin wrote: On March 03 2019 18:27 Holyflare wrote: When did I ever make a case on rayn wtf? You didn't that I recall. Though I like his Palmar read. Rayn at the time had a pretty weak scumread on Palmar based on (1) Palmar thinking I was looking townie, and (2) Palmar wanting to policy kill Sent. There really wasn't much there, but this is literally the only justification for rsoultin going after Palmar [...] This is a big part of his case on rsoultin. rsoultin's early read on Palmar and where it came from. At this point Palmar had said; - not gonna play, it's weekend - Policy lynch Sentinel - HF might be town - "thanks i hate it" on one of my posts, whatever that meant - some more posts which say "lynch Sentinel" rsoultin agreed at the time with my read on Palmar, and Acrofales criticises the reasoning. The problem is that this is Acrofales' reasoning for me thinking Palmar is mafia: (1) Palmar thinking I [acro] was looking townie (2) Palmar wanting to policy kill Sent First of all (1) had never happened at that time. Second of all, for (2), i have absolutely no idea where he read rayn scumreads Palmar for wanting to lynch Sentinel, because these are all my words on Palmar at that point; Show nested quote + iamperfection actually looks really townie from later posts. I am okay with him being mayor. (Or go with Palmars plan, although he is prolly mafia but i cba of he just kills sentinel). Show nested quote + I think Palmar found an easy way out to "play" during weekend on sentinel and os trying to look better. I dont really believe he comes and says "hi see you on monday i dont play on weekends" and then starts reading the thread anyways as town. If you know palmar you probably know what i mean. I mean i literally encouraged his policy lynch rather than find it scummy. Okay so, let's pretend Acrofales made a mistake with timestamps and pretend i had all my stuff on Palmar already. here's the rest of what i updated on my read on him: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 20:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: On March 04 2019 20:07 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 20:05 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 19:35 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:27 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 19:20 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote: Acro, wave, oats, rayn, chez, ls, mocsta(?) (+a shit tonne of others that elude me) will be the lynch today. There's really so many people I could easily lynch and just not care tbh. Acro is town. Wave, oats I'm on board with. Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out. Chez also a no. He seems fine. LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch. Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow. Mate you really are mafia lol ? He's pointing out you seem to have switched opinions on rayn I have. The longer rayn goes without shitting up the thread the more I suspect him of scummy shenanigans. That's not to say scumrayn isn't an abusive asshole. He's generally more tunnelly as scum than as town, at least in my obviously imperfect recollection. But rayn is being uncharacteristically passive and the longer it goes the more I suspect him. Town rayn shits up the thread trying to find scum. Scum rayn shits up the thread for the sake of shitting up the thread. But rayn never doesn't shut up the thread. New behavior is weird. And probably scum weird. Why does rayn's activity have anything to do with his alignment? Palmar should also know this, and it's why he's mafia because it's a poor excuse to scum read rayn when there's plenty of other reasons to. Rayn works long hours so often goes long times without activity. The last thing he did when he was here was shit up the thread. This is a poor flip flop acro. Rayn did quickly defuse when I was arguing with him though, although some of it may be my reluctance to engage in the argument with him. I don't know what it means. Yeah i tried to actually talk with you when you asked me to, then you never answered anything but with nonsense posts and then left.. So there is that. this one isn't entirely about acrofales, and definitely NOT because he read him town Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: [....] You literally said nothing in your post towards acro except that you basically confessed you had a townread on him based on shit things and that you hadn't actually read him at all and apparently weren't even willing to do that. So mr. Palmar now you are just lying. I can maybe see how this turns into just "he townread Acro" in some idiots mind, but even if that was the case Palmar himself confessed he was guilty of this so how can rsoultin (or me) be blamed of being mafia because of a "shit scumread" when we actually called out CORRECT things regardless of Palmar's affiliation?? (note that while this is not a reason why rsoultin scumread Palmar, but Acrofales thought it is so it's relevant to the case). How can any fucking townie not read things above properly enough to: 1) call rsoultin scum based on that 2) what i bolded in red ????????????? The red was NOT a big part of his case on rsoul, I commented a lot on that earlier. As far as him making a mistake on you, first of all, seems obvious to me that mafia is less likely to make a mistake like that (especially for fear of drawing your attention because of how houndish you can be about little things like this). I see what you mean about the contradiction in how he scums you/rsoul but sue me Rayn,it doesn't feel all that egregious to me. The one thing bothering me the MOST about Acro's play is (like LS) he sheeped me pretty hardcore in regards to HF, and when I strayed from the path I had set up for myself, Acro stayed the course. I take issue with this only because I don't feel like I'm a player worth sheeping even at my best, and I certainly have not been playing my best. It gives me the willies when anyone decides I'm a strong enough voice to just latch on to. The rest of his play has been fine in my opinion and I don't plan on lynching him any time soon barring something super awful I find when I look him up. I think there are way higher priority targets to go on. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 21:00 GMT
#6027
On March 09 2019 05:53 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2019 05:51 Pandain wrote: Like come on WoS, are we really not going to lynch someone who gets caught in an obvious lies like this? WoS has a history of friendship with HF. LS with tina, Rels with a bunch of other people. Sadly it influences their game especially if the latter are scum and play the emo card. Honestly, I really like this post. You're right. I wouldn't say HF is playing the emo card though---almost everything he has done he can/has done as either alignment and that's honestly not what I'm reading him on. It comes down to the KISS principle (for those who don't know, Keep It Simple, Stupid). Is it more likely HF made a huge play to try and lynch Palmar early when he knew he'd be dodging suspicion the entirety of the rest of the game? Or more likely he did a stupid, stupid thing and bragged about it? The thing that has made me change my mind on him aside from this is that in the past I'd be lynching him out of fear because I know what he is capable of. I DO believe his capable of either of the things I laid out above, what I DON'T believe, is that he'd want to play the entire game under duress. Forget about his ridiculously long filter. There's nothing to be gained from trying to sift through that. Just analyze his behaviour around D1 and decide what you think---it's more likely to come from scum or town. I believe HF made an incredibly dumb and anti-town play in the name of attempting to be right. And while the Ace's and BC's (etc) of the world will try to tell you to lynch him for being anti-town (and in theory they're right of course) that's unfortunately not where TL Mafia has been for years now. If we only ever lynched liars/anti-town players/ lurkers, scum would win every single game. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 21:02 GMT
#6029
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WaveofShadow
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March 08 2019 21:11 GMT
#6036
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March 08 2019 21:12 GMT
#6038
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