EPTThis sounds interesting, though are we able to get enough people for it?
[M][T] Secret Hitler, Act I, Take II
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This sounds interesting, though are we able to get enough people for it? | ||
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On October 26 2018 15:00 Koshi wrote: I'll sit this one out except if you have a bad setup. Don't be so roundabout and say you want in  | ||
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On October 30 2018 07:13 happykrogan wrote: Funny thing: I can't watch this anthem video in my country. You can watch it if you go to the bottom and change your region. Often have to do that here to watch WW2 related stuff. Great how to prohibit us from looking up our past  Also I find that anthem terrible, I prefer Going to sleep now, sorry for the basically blank post, but 5AM here, or 6AM without time change. | ||
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On October 31 2018 02:11 happykrogan wrote: Maybe I'm just way overthinking it but look: what if grack is in fact Hitler and sets this up, so the fascists can say exactly that and it appears as they made a joke. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] Would that be any reliable though, anybody could say it, and Hitler would have no way to find out he's wrong? Also is letting Hitler know who you are that important? I feel like Hitler wouldn't want to take podshots at people anyway, so people would vote for him later on | ||
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 "Maybe, but how big is the chance that a random liberal just makes this joke?" What is the chance that a random liberal does anything? Also why would he do it on the first day, when he is up for voting next and gets intel from there on? And true about the voting totally forgot about that. | ||
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On October 31 2018 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:You know scum win if hitler is elected as chancellor after i dont remember how many fascist policies. Do you get what that means? Or what may happen? 3 | ||
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On October 31 2018 10:00 Conversion wrote: I voted no pass to this anyways, see you all in 21 hours Why though, even if rayn was Scum, he'd be 'forced' to enact a liberal policy from what he posted. | ||
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On October 31 2018 12:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you consider you have shared many reads or useful thoughts after you said the above? No, but I don't have any concrete feelings yet, some people make more sense than others, but it's nothing concrete yet. The lack of lynching doesn't help considering we won't get alignments until at least 3 Fascist policies have passed. Though for what it's worth if I were to just blindly pick I'd have a 3:4 chance of getting Scum | ||
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On November 01 2018 00:32 kitaman27 wrote: lol Conversion is so crazy that he's probably not Hitler. Trying to hint at you knowing who Hitler is? | ||
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On November 01 2018 05:00 kitaman27 wrote: Is that honestly what you think my intention was? It seems so out of place, so yes. | ||
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On November 01 2018 06:29 happykrogan wrote: Your reasoning is just the post seems out of place and had the word hitler in it? Yes, I really don't see the logic in his conclusion | ||
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On November 01 2018 06:38 kitaman27 wrote: I was simply pointing out that I don't think a Hilter would so openly push a policy like that. Why not? By the way, anyone getting a bunch of timeouts with the site? tlzomg -_- Nope On November 01 2018 06:47 happykrogan wrote: @ byj do you have a strong scumread on kita now? Somewhat, yes | ||
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But it's the same song?  Lovely one though, I really should rewatch the movie, thanks! | ||
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On November 01 2018 07:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Oops wrong one Meant to include this <3 | ||
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How do you guys feel now? Shouldn't I be practically scum now, due to not talking but voting? | ||
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On November 03 2018 10:24 kitaman27 wrote: Are you trying to refute my post or something? o.O Asking for updates, not refuting | ||
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On November 04 2018 00:23 happykrogan wrote: Why didn't you talk but vote? It depends why you did as it was obviously intentional. On November 04 2018 01:33 Grackaroni wrote: Why did you vote no without saying anything? What do you guys think the reason is? On November 04 2018 01:44 Grackaroni wrote: I forgot that there's probably still a lot of confusion among mafia whether prplhz/I are town or not. Among hitler you mean? | ||
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On November 04 2018 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wait no. This is not correct. But grackaroni and prplhz are not scum together. How come? If Scum is up early they can just stick to the liberal policies, since it's likely that by the end there will only be fascist left, no? | ||
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On November 04 2018 05:00 Rels wrote: do fascists really know each other ? I thought that too, but reading the OP it looks like they don't Oh you're right There are 2 other fascists who know Hitler. Hitler does not know who the fascists are. So I guess they'll have to find out with communication onto the same person, should be no other way to differentiate between hitler and fascist otherwise | ||
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On November 04 2018 05:19 happykrogan wrote: Here to reinforce the idea fascist don't know other, because you're fascist and it's wrong? Why else would that be the only thing you say right now? Scroll up? I literally just said the opposite? Either way I PM'd [UoN], let's see what he has to say. I mean you could use the time to tell us why you voted but didn't talk. First I want an answer from you | ||
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On November 04 2018 08:25 happykrogan wrote: Here to reinforce the idea fascist don't know other, because you're fascist and it's wrong? Why else would that be the only thing you say right now? Scroll up? I literally just said the opposite? Either way I PM'd [UoN], let's see what he has to say. I mean you could use the time to tell us why you voted but didn't talk. First I want an answer from you [/QUOTE]No you didn't [/quote] https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/538533-secret-hitler-act-i-take-ii?page=25#481 The fact that you are the first one mentioning it makes it NAI until you explain it. I mean it seems like you wanted to do something with it. It was obvioulsy sonething you planned so I have to know what you planned. NAI? So what do you think I planned? On November 04 2018 08:56 Grackaroni wrote: Anyone watching blizzcon? Only watched the BW stuff, but think it's all over now | ||
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https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/538533-secret-hitler-act-i-take-ii?page=25#481 The fact that you are the first one mentioning it makes it NAI until you explain it. I mean it seems like you wanted to do something with it. It was obvioulsy sonething you planned so I have to know what you planned. NAI? So what do you think I planned? On November 04 2018 08:56 Grackaroni wrote: Anyone watching blizzcon? Only watched the BW stuff, but think it's all over now Fixed quotes now | ||
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Interpret it first (and I don't know what NAI means  ) | ||
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On November 04 2018 13:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Thanks <3 On November 05 2018 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: For the record i just went to check the last game and idk what people are talking about but byj was the only one in that game to even vote for mafia and almost figured out the game on D2. Yeah he didn't say much there but what do you expect in a game that was something ridiculous like 10 pages in total. The point is he actually had reads and they werent even retarded. <3 Probably the game before that asking random questions that don't seem like they serve a purpose. What makes you think they don't serve a purpose? On November 04 2018 21:32 happykrogan wrote: but I acknowledge that you might think you had a good plan. I was hoping for people to come 'defend' my plan, or try to not push me too hard. There would be no reason to do so, so I can assume the people doing so are Scum trying to gain my credit. Especially now in hindsight that Rels and Conversation seem to be easy to push as Scum instead (doesn't mean I think they're innocent either, they flatout ignored what I did =\). | ||
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On November 05 2018 20:33 happykrogan wrote: A plan you still didn't share with us. So what was your plan? Or your fake plan to cover up the actual plan which was finding people that would defend your fake plan. Is getting reads onto people not a plan? Also don't you think it's more probable that scum would attack you on this? The second half of your post looks like your reasoning for scum potentially defending you, is that Rels and Conversion are targets that are easier to push for mafia, so you have to think they're town. There are only 3 Scums, so 'having a solid scumread' against 3 as Scum would be sub-optimal, since then you'd pretty much expected to vote for everyone else. So max. 2 townies, but likely more, if you're Hitler, or pretending to play against other Fascists. But then you say you don't think they have to be innocent so your whole post doesn't make sense. I really don't get the logic in that conclusion, care to elaborate? | ||
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On November 05 2018 22:15 happykrogan wrote: (which would be kind of funny because he is austrian)  On November 05 2018 22:15 happykrogan wrote: The whole voting but not talking thing I could interpret as an attempt to communicate with his scumbuddies. Also he is talking a lot about hitler. Like almost half of his serious posts. Why would Hitler need to out himself? | ||
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On November 05 2018 23:11 happykrogan wrote: For people defending your bait plan, you need to tell us your plan first. If your plan is just: Let's look for people defending my plan, no one will be defend your fake/bait plan because you never told it. You can react to it either way. It's just that people don't seem to want to do so. You think scum would defend you because it is easier to push rels and Conversion. Therefore you have to have a townread on both of them.Then you proceed to say you don't have a townread on them. On November 05 2018 23:19 happykrogan wrote: Hitler would not out himself anyways because scum knows him. It would be a communication attempt to see who the other fascists are. Instead of just waiting for them to communicate to him? | ||
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You think scum would defend you because it is easier to push rels and Conversion. Therefore you have to have a townread on both of them.Then you proceed to say you don't have a townread on them. I don't need to have a town read on anybody to say they're easier to push than me??? | ||
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On November 06 2018 01:39 Conversion wrote: elect always: rayn Why exactly again? | ||
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On November 06 2018 03:44 Conversion wrote: why am I or Rels suspicious for flat out ignoring you on getting reads onto people? Did I say that? | ||
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On November 06 2018 04:12 happykrogan wrote: You are assuming, that if you vote but not talk mafia will defend you. Or flat out ignore me? :~) The reason for that is, that rels and conversion are easier to push as mafia. Therefore if you are telling the truth, you have to think they are both town, because otherwise mafia wouldn't want to push them. If they wouldn't rather push them then you (because they are also mafia) your logic why mafia would defend you has failed. Therefore you have to think they are town. I hope I made it clearer. Do you think it Scum wouldn't push each other eventually? I find it highly likely that at least 1 of them would have to be town, but not enough to vote for them ofc | ||
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On November 06 2018 08:27 byj wrote: Do you think it Scum wouldn't push each other eventually? I find it highly likely that at least 1 of them (Rels, Conv) would have to be town, but not enough to vote for them ofc On November 05 2018 20:05 byj wrote: Especially now in hindsight that Rels and Conversation seem to be easy to push as Scum instead (doesn't mean I think they're innocent either, they flatout ignored what I did =\). In case you missed it | ||
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On November 06 2018 09:04 kitaman27 wrote: You realize that's only going to happen once every 8 rounds and it's unlikely to pass, right? Statue of limitation for chancellor is 1 cycle, so we could have Grack be every 2nd chancellor - if you guys trust him enough that is How do you intend to make any progress doing that? We are doing fine for now, and could likely (please | ||
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On November 07 2018 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why has byj been pro-Grackaroni? Feels townie especially with how Election #2 went, seems very genuine, especially with supposedly discarding the F from LLF | ||
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On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote: all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve. I still think it's a good plan and not naive =] | ||
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On November 08 2018 04:47 Rels wrote: Kita calculated it to 35%. Just did it and I also find 36%. Why are you voting yes ? Oh that's high. Because I trust Grack, but I expected the FFF chance to be lower. I don't trust kita enough to leave him a 33% excuse, is it possible to change my vote? | ||
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On November 08 2018 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Explain to me, if prplhz is town what does it matter if Grackaroni as scum gives him one or two liberal cards??? [/QUOTE] I never judged prplhz's alignment there, but Grack's thread play? He seemed very genuine in his reaction. But theoretically speaking do you prefer a possible F and us having to figure out who's the Scum between Grack and prpl over having a guaranteed L? | ||
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On November 08 2018 05:43 Rels wrote: Byj I don't understand your thought process. If you dislike kita, what's the difference between him having FFF and him having FFL ? If you think he's scum, he will pass FF to the chancellor in either scenario It's worse because the lower % it is, the more it confirms them as Scum to me. There's a big difference between a ~24% FFF and a 34% one. | ||
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On November 08 2018 07:23 Rels wrote:Vote no for a shitty reason like byj? Citation needed :> | ||
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On November 09 2018 09:01 Rels wrote: I think byj said he would be voting NO so he's maybe showing face there For what it's worth I haven't been online since my last post, not like you'll believe me, especially since kita asked me to stay | ||
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On November 10 2018 01:18 Rels wrote: this is from a sarcastic post that was meant to copy a rayn post Oh | ||
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On November 10 2018 01:15 Rels wrote: byj why did you vote YES ? I would've changed it, but eh, who asks instead of just submitting another vote and hoping? | ||
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On November 10 2018 01:40 Rels wrote: Yeah but in that last post you asked if you could switched your vote. I don't know why you wouldn't switch your vote before leaving in that case. Because I was planning to come back the next day | ||
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On November 10 2018 02:31 prplhz wrote: Why is it good to downvote a government that passes a liberal policy? What would you have done if he had just voted yes to all and one had passed a fascist policy instead? | ||
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On November 11 2018 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: byj literally has said he thinks you are scum and he voted yes, Why? Note quite literally I don't trust kita enough to leave him a 33% excuse, is it possible to change my vote? If I had to rank feelingwise it would be Town read: Grack ???: Rels, Conv, happy Scummy: kita, prpl, rayn ??? and Scummy are almost interchangeable | ||
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On November 10 2018 02:58 prplhz wrote: I don't get this hypothetical, who would have passed a fascist policy and why? I don't get this at all. I mean you cannot know in advance what policy they pass? What do you want him to do when he's supposedly not playing the game? Just blindly vote yes? | ||
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On November 10 2018 01:14 byj wrote:But theoretically speaking do you prefer a possible F and us having to figure out who's the Scum between Grack and prpl over having a guaranteed L? Think you still owe me an answer to this rayn | ||
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On November 11 2018 03:05 kitaman27 wrote: byj has looked townier than you lately to be honest. Where the hell did I look "townie" lately? | ||
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Has yet to talk after last election, would love to hear him too | ||
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On November 11 2018 08:39 kitaman27 wrote: lol everyone but me? That's pretty much proof Rels is mafia considering no facist team would allow this to go through otherwise. Why not? Could just hope for the FFF sooner or later to sow some doubt | ||
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On November 12 2018 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here are possibilities for what i think are the best plays: 1) we elect me and Conversion; 60% to get liberal right away. Aside from the fact i obviously still trust myself over anyone else i don't think this is the best play because 40% chance of failing is too much and if that happens it will give the investigation to someone else than Grackaroni and i do not want that, 2) We pass my team and elect one of prplhz' / byj's team with someone - basically whoever - as chancellor. I see this having 0% chance of enacting a liberal policy but i don't care because then we can pass teams until we will have Grackaroni + Rels. They will also have the whole deck and for that, to get even one liberal card the probability is ~75%. 3) We pass three teams in a row. Then we pass again until it's Grackaroni's turn. The probability of this either enacting liberal from the deck, or with Grackaroni, is 80%. The thing is Grackaroni needs to pick a liberal chancellor. 4) We pass three teams in a row, then we pass another three teams in a row. Then we wait for my turn and we will have a 100% chance of passing a liberal policy, if i pick a liberal chancellor (that is not Rels/Grackaroni). I understand people probably don't want to do this but that actually would be a 100% win right here lol. This all is assuming people are not lying about what they got as president. My preference obviously is (4) but i am okay with (3) or (2) also. Can the townies in this game give their opinion on what do we do? 1) Would give you a chance to discard the L and blame the lack of it on someone following you 4) Note that it would make it possible for there to be 2F from the passing, and then allowing you to guarantee the 3rd F at the risk of outing yourself - which would be nice if your Hitler isn't suspected Interesting that you prefer (2) which you think of having a 0% chance over (1) | ||
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On November 13 2018 10:29 Grackaroni wrote: I'm actually ineligible for chancellor. Oh thought the term limit included failed goverments. It's your time to shine, my 2nd most townie candidate | ||
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