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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 18:57 GMT
#981
I think you should vote yes regardless of what you think of Rels' alignment.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 10 2018 18:59 GMT
#982
On November 11 2018 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 08 2018 20:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 08 2018 20:17 happykrogan wrote:
To your treating players differently
scum knows each other: you asked the question first while byj just made one random post about it

Rels this is 100% correct. He wasnt necessarily doing what you suggested, because this makes perfect sense and is even way more likely than what you said.

Here is what i have a hard time believing Rels.

If you have a narrative (which in itself isnt necessarily scummy) that treating players differently when they had the same thought (which isnt even what happened there -- but thats another thing), then regarding the prplhz chancellor election, why is it a scumtell for krpgan when what he did was all +1'ing me? Like literally, i started questioning prplhz for his jesitative stance, krogan made almoat the same posts i did, i eventually decided to vote yes, krogan followed me.

Why is this different? It doesnt matter that you have a townread on me from different things, but you know or think a townie -- aka me -- did that, krogan should never get "scum credit" from that if you actually believe in what you say about how krogan treated you/byj.


So you're saying that if I apply the "player X treated 2 players differently and that's scummy" to krogan, I should have applied it you too right. But I didn't apply that to the prp chancellor election ? I said I didn't like that he attacked prp, then changed his opinion when you posted a +1, as if he got scared to vote for Grack / prp before, but after the thread leader said "prp is town", he was confident he could sneak a YES. Nothing to do with "treating 2 players differently" in this situation.

The "treating 2 players differently" was for the "do fascists know each other ?" stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 10 2018 18:59 GMT
#983
unless you're saying I treated you and krogan differently, when I'm accusing krogan of the same thing so I'm an hypocrite ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 10 2018 19:02 GMT
#984
On November 11 2018 03:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It does not help you said you have seen question adressed to you and you would answer them after... And the question i posed was the one you never cared about...

I went back and answered the thread things I remembered (krogan's answer to one of my post, krogan saying I never explained my scumread on kita, and your question about prp chancellor). Yeah I didn't remember this one you juste quoted
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 10 2018 19:04 GMT
#985
rayn why didn't you want Grack / Conversion on D2 if that's the team you liked better than Grack / prp ? It didn't stop Conversion to be president on the next turn and elect Conversion / rayn, at least I don't think so
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 10 2018 20:54 GMT
#986
On November 11 2018 03:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Because it's so obvious that you have a preference for Rels over myself based on your behavior the last 48 hours.

Meh, we're not going to accomplish anything arguing with each other. Lets wait until some else shows up.

My problem with this is that rayn first wrote his plan like this:
On November 07 2018 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The possibility of drawing FFF is 6/8 x 5/7 x 4/6 which is approx 35,7%
So about 65% of the time we hit at least one liberal (well i'd stop right away if we get liberal anyways).

If we happen to hit FFF the deck is resuffled.
Second fascist policy goes to krogan who i believe is town, he gets the investigation. I would trust the result. krogan can investigate kitaman.
Third fascist policy goes to kitaman, in case he is town. If not then we will do something else but we know kitaman (or at least one of krogan / kitaman) is mafia.

Is there anyone who believes that krogan is mafia? Because in my opinion from the presidents (if you think someone is mafia there) Grackaroni looks the worst for not passing FL instead of LL (passibg FL to prplhz is the correct play there). That's not much, but still a possiblilty, i would find it more likely that mafia are just rels/byj/kitaman/(prplhz).

and is against rels first(and they can't communicate with each other)
On November 07 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to work. kitaman i am going to vote yes to your team if you pick Grackaroni.
I am probably going to downvote rels' team regardless of what he does. He does make a little bit sense but i am sorry i just am not going to straight up trust anyone who starts playing a week after the game starts.

On November 08 2018 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no getting lucky anymore. All i care about is me getting the investigation so i find either conf scum or conf town (which will allow 100% win) so i am gonna vote yes to kita and if this doesnt pass for some reason then i am gonna do my hardest that your team passes. If this passes i am trying my hardest to downvote your team.

Idk, i am sorry of you are town but i have figured out a strategy that wins the game more likely than any other strategy, and every other strategy has downsides. As i said you should have played earlier if you disagree for "i wanna play" because i lose interest in games i have "figured out" already. Sooo... there is that. I dont need to know anything but that conversion is town and the dude i investigate is either town/scum. Thats it.

until Rels tries to convince him:
On November 08 2018 08:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 08:07 Rels wrote:
I think your plan is a good way to play the game from your position, where you're unsure of kita / me. But you still should push for who you think is townier to pass their teams.

The problem is there might be some dumb townspeople who can ruin this shit, so i'd rather take my chances on having two chances on passing one team before me than one. If you can convince people to accept you+grack over kita+grack then i can vote no here. It's up to you.

this doen't look like he is prefering Rels there.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
November 10 2018 21:01 GMT
#987
On November 11 2018 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
byj literally has said he thinks you are scum and he voted yes, Why?

Note quite literally
I don't trust kita enough to leave him a 33% excuse, is it possible to change my vote?

If I had to rank feelingwise it would be
Town read:
Grack
???:
Rels, Conv, happy
Scummy:
kita, prpl, rayn
??? and Scummy are almost interchangeable
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
November 10 2018 21:03 GMT
#988
On November 10 2018 02:58 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2018 02:38 byj wrote:
On November 10 2018 02:31 prplhz wrote:
Why is it good to downvote a government that passes a liberal policy?

What would you have done if he had just voted yes to all and one had passed a fascist policy instead?

I don't get this hypothetical, who would have passed a fascist policy and why? I don't get this at all.

I mean you cannot know in advance what policy they pass? What do you want him to do when he's supposedly not playing the game? Just blindly vote yes?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
November 10 2018 21:05 GMT
#989
On November 10 2018 01:14 byj wrote:But theoretically speaking do you prefer a possible F and us having to figure out who's the Scum between Grack and prpl over having a guaranteed L?

Think you still owe me an answer to this rayn
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
November 10 2018 21:06 GMT
#990
On November 11 2018 03:05 kitaman27 wrote:
byj has looked townier than you lately to be honest.

Where the hell did I look "townie" lately?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
November 10 2018 21:13 GMT
#991
Also if you're reading this: Hello Conversation
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
November 10 2018 21:13 GMT
#992
(though I am one to talk )
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 21:14 GMT
#993
oO
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 21:15 GMT
#994
Why is rels town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 21:16 GMT
#995
or conv or happy i dont give a fuck justy that you cant say "i diddnt men this guy".

Why is any of rels, converison, grackaroni town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 21:17 GMT
#996
Make a read please.
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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
November 10 2018 21:41 GMT
#997
Me?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 10 2018 22:00 GMT
#998
On November 11 2018 06:13 byj wrote:
Also if you're reading this: Hello Conversation


What is this?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
524 Posts
November 10 2018 22:21 GMT
#999
On November 11 2018 07:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2018 06:13 byj wrote:
Also if you're reading this: Hello Conversation


What is this?

Has yet to talk after last election, would love to hear him too
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 10 2018 23:30 GMT
#1000
It passes
kitaman27 voted no and Conversion did not vote
Everyone else voted yes
I will make the formal post soon
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