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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 08 2018 23:16 GMT
#881
I assume the team is Kita/Prplhz/Byj and Kita is scum claiming at this point.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 23:17 GMT
#882
I am really glad I voted no right now.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 08 2018 23:24 GMT
#883
i don't really get what's going on

who will you nominate Rels?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 08 2018 23:24 GMT
#884
is kita scum or what?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 08 2018 23:28 GMT
#885
lol I was just messing with people XD

Lets see how Rels does I suppose.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2018 23:30 GMT
#886
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 08 2018 23:56 GMT
#887
home! Will skim what I've missed, then I'll go back to answer the stuff that was asked to me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 08 2018 23:56 GMT
#888
but apparently kita's team got denied
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 08 2018 23:59 GMT
#889
On November 09 2018 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2018 07:54 prplhz wrote:
I don't know how I will vote.


Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 22:12 Rels wrote:
I would prefer to not elect a president right away to have more time to discuss. Like in resistance

It's also really important to read between the lines sometimes!


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On October 30 2018 22:14 Rels wrote:
Me and conversion probably? Just so you know.


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On October 30 2018 22:15 Rels wrote:
Are you sure? As opposed to what ? Hard to read ? What's the benefit of that ?


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On October 30 2018 22:18 Rels wrote:
On October 30 2018 21:25 prplhz wrote:
On October 30 2018 18:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. I'll elaborate further later on when i am off work since quoting (and even typing) on phone is like hell for me.

I dont understand prplhz' thought process at all and i think its possibly scummy. I mean the "lets pick townie dudes" but "i kinda wanted to include kita because he seems nice" (being nice has nothing to do with being townie or not).

I dont think kruger and kitaman can be in a same scumteam unless kruger is exactly hitler because of how the interactions on the thread have gone so far. Kruger seems town anyways so i am okay with whatever he picks.

I think kita has a flaw on his resistance proposal, but i dont really think that makes him anything.

My thought process was the other way around, I didn't think "let's elect townie dudes and also kita". I thought "let's elect kita". And then I thought "okay maybe let's elect townie dudes and maybe not kita because he's hard to read and if we elect him now, the doubt it creates will linger for a good while". In my posts I actually say "there are some reasons to not elect kita that applies more to him than to others".

In many elections in mafia, you don't necessarily elect the most townie person, but some combination of townie and skilled. For example for mayor. I just want to elect townie people in this game because the chancellor doesn't actually have to do anything other than push through a liberal policy. He doesn't need to be any good at mafia to do that.


Facists, but I don't understand you townread kita in the first place for being nice. When apparently you think hes a good scum player


whoooa look at what I just found?! This is game changing.

RELS IS TOTALLY OUTING HIMSELF TO HITLER AT THE START OF THE GAME.

VOTE YES HERE!!!!!!!

LOOOL
And they're porbably fake too, at least I'm 99% sure I didn't write the "read between lines" line
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:00 GMT
#890
On November 09 2018 08:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
ELECTION 5





President kitaman27 and Chancellor Grackaroni have been rejected from office! The Election tracker moves up by one.

Here are the votes:


1. happykrogan - Nein!
2. Grackaroni - Nein!
3. Conversion - Nein!
4. kitaman27 - Ja!
5. Rels - Nein!
6. raynpelikoneet - Ja!
7. byj - Ja!
8. prplhz - Ja!

It is Rels's turn to be the presidential candidate and select a candidate for chancellor. This selection must be made in , after which everyone will get to vote.

Due to term limits,
Conversion and raynpelikoneet are ineligible to be chosen as chancellor.

just before deadline too. It's a "joke" to could have swayed a vote in his favor, and that he can now say it's a joke. Nice play TBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:01 GMT
#891
Vote is super interesting. I think byj said he would be voting NO so he's maybe showing face there
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:01 GMT
#892
On November 09 2018 08:16 Grackaroni wrote:
I assume the team is Kita/Prplhz/Byj and Kita is scum claiming at this point.

yep, seems like it
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:02 GMT
#893
On November 09 2018 08:24 prplhz wrote:
i don't really get what's going on

who will you nominate Rels?

Grack most likely
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:06 GMT
#894
On November 08 2018 20:17 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 12:42 Rels wrote:
On November 04 2018 05:07 happykrogan wrote:
On October 25 2018 04:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

The game consists of 8 players in total:

1 player is Hitler.
There are 2 other fascists who know Hitler. Hitler does not know who the fascists are.
There is no QT for any of the fascists. All communication is in-thread.


Hitler does not not know.
Not the fascist don't know.
So they probably know each other... At least I thought so the whole game.

On November 04 2018 05:19 happykrogan wrote:
On November 04 2018 05:11 byj wrote:
On November 04 2018 05:00 Rels wrote:
do fascists really know each other ? I thought that too, but reading the OP it looks like they don't

Oh you're right
There are 2 other fascists who know Hitler. Hitler does not know who the fascists are.

So I guess they'll have to find out with communication onto the same person, should be no other way to differentiate between hitler and fascist otherwise

Here to reinforce the idea fascist don't know other, because you're fascist and it's wrong? Why else would that be the only thing you say right now?
I mean you could use the time to tell us why you voted but didn't talk.

The bolded is ridiculous. First, what possible gain would scum would have to lie about something so easily disproved ?

Second, there is a disconnect between your two posts. In the first, you say to have assumed that fascists know each other, but you're not 100% sure. In the second post, you're so sure that fascists know each other, so you accuse someone else of lying about it. That makes no sense.

the gain is town cred.
Also it is a potential scenario if it was correct what I assumed the whole game

To your treating players differently
scum knows each other: you asked the question first while byj just made one random post about it
kita/byj kita has a way bigger filter and talked a lot about other things too, his oneliner was: I don't think X is hitler
byj talked in his small filter a lot about hitler and had this random post I think X is scum.because he knows who hitler is
In both cases there is a difference

OK for the second point.
For the first point, I don't see how it gives him any town cred ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:08 GMT
#895
On November 08 2018 21:40 happykrogan wrote:
And I might be completely blind, but I still haven't found why Rels did scumread kita in the first place. (The only thing I found that he said before he started with his team speculations, is the prplhz-kita connection, which doesn't make sense, if he think's prplhz is hitler)

He mentioned that he scumread kita a few times though, before he started with his team.

it's true that I never did a post summarizing my thoughts on him. Will do so at some point
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:14 GMT
#896
On November 09 2018 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels why does purplehaze not want to get himself as chancellor if the team is him/kita/krogan when Grack's only other viable option os Conversion?

In general, prp's power swaying decision this game is pretty null, so he can say whatever he wants, even if it's not what he really thinks, that won't change a lot.
For the situation you're talking about in particular, I have no idea right now. He did get selected as chancellor D2 though, so whatever opposition he made must have been pretty unsuccesful. I remember him bitching against Grack but wanting their team to pass anyway - that's why I scumread him in the first place. I don't remember him not wanting to get selected before the selection had been done. Link to the part of the thread where it happened if you want my put on it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:22 GMT
#897
On November 09 2018 00:51 Conversion wrote:
Here he re-evaluates Grack now, since a liberal policy passed-- which is in line with "vote whoever yields positive results until shown otherwise." I wonder why he is conveniently ignoring that fact that a Conversion/rayn team yielded a liberal policy? Sure, I could have lied and drawn 2L in liberal!kitaman's eyes, but that is not a fact yet, so should I not be going up if his logic remains consistent?

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On November 07 2018 05:32 kitaman27 wrote:
Cool.

There was at least one facist who has been elected so far, which means they either chose not to sabotage or didn't have an opportunity to sabotage. I think the facist player would usually choose to sabotage if they have the opportunity, unless they are Hitler.

Unless things really, really spiral out of control it seems unlikely that we'd hit 6 facist policies. The path to victory seems to be pretty straight forward and we have a dt check as a safe guard for when we eventually hit FFF. If we get a town result, that gives us a decent way to avoid Hitler as chancellor for half of the elections.

Either Krogan or Grack for me this cycle. I'm going to re-read one more time before I decide to see if I can figure out who the elected facist might be.


He thinks a facist was elected, but also thinks that facist player would choose to sabotage if they had the chance, unless they are Hitler.

He seems incredibly focused on that fact that I am the facist player, but by that logic I am also Hitler?? since I did not sabotage?

That's a fantastic point if it's really what happened. He said that he thinks an elected people is scum, the obvious answer is prp, yet he still scumreads you more for some reason. It's even worse for him if he really thinks you're Hitler, since I remember him pushing Rels / Conversion at some point - but that's a thing I want to fact check too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:25 GMT
#898
On November 09 2018 01:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2018 00:51 Conversion wrote:
He thinks a facist was elected, but also thinks that facist player would choose to sabotage if they had the chance, unless they are Hitler.


Correction, I know that a facist player was elected. At this point, I'm leaning towards either you being Hitler or prpl being a facist who didn't need to make a choice on d2.

Show nested quote +
On November 09 2018 00:51 Conversion wrote:
If that's the case, why isn't he pushing this idea further to convince other liberals? Seems like an awfully convenient soft jab to try and paint me as a facist.


Well I think I made it pretty clear with my latest post that I think you and Rels are connected. Hardly a soft jab.

So you're saying that Conversion is Hitler. You're also saying that Conversion is connected to me because Conversion changed his read on me for no reason:
On November 09 2018 00:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2018 01:39 Conversion wrote:
anyways, my state of the game:

elect always: rayn
elect high priority: grack
neutral: kita
try not to elect: prplhz, byj, happykrogan, rels


Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 00:43 Conversion wrote:
it boils down to skipping you or kita again.. more inclined to skip kitaman so I'll rethink and redive.


I really think we may have forced Conversion's hand with showing his allegiance to Rels. He lists grack and myself in his top three trustworthy list and since rayn can't be elected, that would mean grack + kita is his ideal team.

Yet a day later when he is suddenly given the choice he decides to favor a Rels + grack team over me with no explanation. People need to pay attention to this if that's how things shake up. Rels team may be more likely to pass, but that's because he has his pair of cronies to back him up. You should vote for the player who is most likely town, not the team that is most likely to pass.

But that can't happen if you think Conversion is Hitler, since he doesn't know I'm fascist in that scenario.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2018 00:37 GMT
#899
On November 09 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
@Rels why did you vote no on D1 government? your filter suggests you wanted Grack/HK as chancellor, and that you pretty much conf-town read rayn for a long time, yet your D1 vote shows you going against it

I'm confused as to why you voted no?

I hate early game. Any read I had D1 can be thrown out.

I don't remember what I've said on rayn early game, but I'm pretty sure I didn't townread him D1. The dude has fooled me more than anyone else on this forum, and I have a very hard time reading him, except when he gets angry at me.

But that's not the reason I voted NO. I just wanted more time to get motivated and play.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 09 2018 13:48 GMT
#900
On November 09 2018 09:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2018 08:24 prplhz wrote:
i don't really get what's going on

who will you nominate Rels?

Grack most likely

Who else if not Grackaroni?
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