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kitaman27
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On November 03 2018 00:16 happykrogan wrote:
I also don't think prplhz is that much less scummy than the other three. The problem I have to vote for people who I think are a little bit scummy or I will have to almost constantly vote no.
And at least we will get informationout of it.
Could you give me the spark notes version of who you view as facist and more importantly, why? If you're feeling better about conversion and would pass a grack/prpl team, I'm struggling to get an idea of who you think the bad guys are.
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kitaman27
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I think it's scummy that Conversion was cool with passing grack and prpl through, yet when I asked him to justify a prpl read, he admits he hasn't really looked at him.
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On November 03 2018 00:20 prplhz wrote:
Grack is voting against his own government, I don't get it. He chose it.
Do you think that's alignment indicative at all? If anything, it makes me feel slightly better about grack, since as facist he would probably be fine with the status quo.
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On November 03 2018 00:36 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 00:27 kitaman27 wrote:On November 03 2018 00:20 prplhz wrote:
Grack is voting against his own government, I don't get it. He chose it. Do you think that's alignment indicative at all? If anything, it makes me feel slightly better about grack, since as facist he would probably be fine with the status quo. I don't understand. How is downvoting a government not preserving status quo?
Because he's passing up an opportunity at president, which I would think he would want as a facist.
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On November 03 2018 00:28 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 00:26 kitaman27 wrote:
I think it's scummy that Conversion was cool with passing grack and prpl through, yet when I asked him to justify a prpl read, he admits he hasn't really looked at him. Do you disagree with my reasoning that I want information, which is the primary reason I want to enact this government?
I disagree because literally any two players will give us information, considering only krogan and rayn have been elected and they can't be chosen. Doesn't it make more sense to get information AND vote for two players that have the best chance of passing a liberal policy?
Now that you've read through prpl, does that change your mind about the vote?
On November 03 2018 00:28 Conversion wrote:
Does that make prplhz scummy as well?
I think you made a solid point about prpl being "not ready to post.", which doesn't really make sense if you have something important to say unless you're laying a trap, which doesn't seem like prpl's style. I'm still pretty conflicted about whether I'm going to vote yes or no on this one.
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lol I've submitted pass and fail 4 different times and I'm still not sure which to go with.
I'm at pass at the moment.
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On November 03 2018 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 07:10 Rels wrote:
my brain tells me there is probably one scum in the first team my brain tells me you are very hard pushing this agenda for no reason other than you are scum with kitaman who just voted yes onto a team that he never should have voted yes on
This pair excluded two of my top scum reads so it was good enough for me. I don't really care what you think as long as we keep sending the liberal policies through.
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On November 03 2018 08:59 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2018 23:23 Grackaroni wrote:On November 02 2018 23:21 kitaman27 wrote:On November 02 2018 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I aisi have absolutely zero idea how anyone could ever think byj is even remotely townie, so that read of yours sounds like bs. Unless you have some extremely through meta-analysis. I went by his single game in the database: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia?user=byjDude had a bunch of 1 liners, didn't really care how he looked, and ended up getting mislynched as town. I definitely don't feel good about having him in my top 4, but I think he looks slightly better than prpl at the moment and is more of an afk than having done anything inherently scummy so far. +1 to this. How do you guys feel now? Shouldn't I be practically scum now, due to not talking but voting?
wut
Are you trying to refute my post or something? o.O
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It doesn't look good, if that's what you're asking. I think if you're liberal that you need to start posting or nobody is ever going to consider nominating you and that puts town in a really sticky situation because we'd need to identify the exact four liberals due to the term limits.
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On November 04 2018 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So grackaroni is pretty much conf town if we draw 3 more liberal policies.
Wait, why is that? You can make the argument that they aren't scum buddies, but with L/L/F passing back the facist card doesn't eliminate the possibility completely.
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On November 05 2018 00:50 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So grackaroni is pretty much conf town if we draw 3 more liberal policies. Wait, why is that? You can make the argument that they aren't scum buddies, but with L/L/F passing back the facist card doesn't eliminate the possibility completely.
Nevermind, just saw that you clarified.
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My new tiers for trustworthiness would be:
tier 1: krogan, grack, rayn
tier 2: prpl
tier 3: byj, conversion, rels
I think grack rejecting his own presidency is rather town looking considering the decent opportunity to pass FF. Now that byj has started posting more, I think he looks a lot worse by purposely withholding his reads and asking random questions that don't seem like they serve a purpose.
I'm going to vote down the conversion team. For my presidency, I'd likely nominate krogan who I have a slightly better feeling on, compared to rayn, but I still haven't decided for sure.
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On November 05 2018 02:53 Conversion wrote:
Like he wasn’t sure on the last government, he’s not sure on who he’s going to nominate for a government.
I said I was nominating either krogan or rayn, probably krogan. Now you're just trying to discredit me for the sake of discrediting me.
On November 05 2018 02:53 Conversion wrote:
I don’t understand how I’m scummier than prplhz when I made a good call out on his behavior, which he disregared bc “meta”
This is why:
On November 02 2018 22:32 Conversion wrote:
I'm chill with passing this government
On November 02 2018 23:49 kitaman27 wrote:
Do you have any opinion of prpl specifically?
On November 02 2018 23:53 Conversion wrote:
Let me take a look into his filter.
You show absolutely no concern regarding whether grack has nominated a town looking player. When I ask you about your opinion about prpl, you show that you haven't even looked at him. When you actually do give an answer about prpl when I asked you twice, you point out a bunch of things wrong with him and pass the team through for "information". Your explanation about why that was a good thing looks scummy to me.
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2018 03:26 prplhz wrote:
Why do you think grack is town kita?
He passed on his own presidency at a point where the vote was really close. There was a 50% chance at FFL, which is great for a facist president because they can discard L and claim FFF.
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2018 04:37 kitaman27 wrote:He passed on his own presidency at a point where the vote was really close. There was a 50% chance at FFL, which is great for a facist president because they can discard L and claim FFF.
I guess there's a scenario where that could make sense as a Hitler play, but I'm not even close to entertaining that at this point in the game.
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On November 05 2018 05:18 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2018 04:37 kitaman27 wrote:On November 05 2018 03:26 prplhz wrote:
Why do you think grack is town kita? He passed on his own presidency at a point where the vote was really close. There was a 50% chance at FFL, which is great for a facist president because they can discard L and claim FFF. Isn't that just how the probabilities work out almost always?
Yeah, same logic would apply to almost any cycle.
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On November 05 2018 05:46 prplhz wrote:
Who will you elect for chancellor kita? Will you vote for yourself or vote no for the towncred?
Krogan most likely.
You seem annoyed that I had a change of opinion on grack and view him as town now, yet you don't really seem to have a scum read on grack yourself. Why is yet?
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Anyone notice how Conversion was happy to play a back seat role until now? Suddenly it's his turn and he starts attacking the people who are questioning his alignment. I think that shows that he's more invested in getting elected as opposed to figuring out the game the previous couple of cycles, where he simply went with policy votes.
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On November 06 2018 00:51 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2018 00:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone notice how Conversion was happy to play a back seat role until now? Suddenly it's his turn and he starts attacking the people who are questioning his alignment. I think that shows that he's more invested in getting elected as opposed to figuring out the game the previous couple of cycles, where he simply went with policy votes. 1) I was busy this weekend which is why I "took a backseat role," so don't fit your narrative to fit your argument, please.
ok cool.
On November 06 2018 00:51 Conversion wrote:
2) I don't care about getting elected, I care about poorly constructed arguments. Can you specify anywhere in my filter where I want people to elect me?
On November 02 2018 22:32 Conversion wrote:
I'm assuming I want to pass krogan or rayn into chancellorship-- is it going to pass though?
On November 02 2018 23:41 Conversion wrote:
Who would you have me vote (besides yourself) for chancellor?
I think these show that you care about getting elected, along with the most recent string of posts. Furthermore, when I said that I was going to vote against you, your very next post was when you started attacking me. It seems like an omgus.
On November 06 2018 00:52 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2018 00:52 happykrogan wrote:
BTW I just remember a game where Conversion got really angry as he was scumread and ended up as scum. also terrible read, I get really angry every game
Aww don't get angry. This is supposed to be for fun and we're in a good spot if you are indeed town. If you're facist, well that's how the cookie crumbles, but then again maybe you're faking anger in that case lol.
Am I correct in assuming that you still town read krogan, even if his arguments against you aren't valid in your mind?
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kitaman27
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So what specifically do you disagree with rayn?
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