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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 03 2018 23:01 GMT
#508
On November 04 2018 05:19 happykrogan wrote:
Here to reinforce the idea fascist don't know other, because you're fascist and it's wrong? Why else would that be the only thing you say right now?

Scroll up? I literally just said the opposite? Either way I PM'd [UoN], let's see what he has to say.

I mean you could use the time to tell us why you voted but didn't talk.

First I want an answer from you
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 04 2018 00:05 GMT
#520
On November 04 2018 08:25 happykrogan wrote:
Here to reinforce the idea fascist don't know other, because you're fascist and it's wrong? Why else would that be the only thing you say right now?

Scroll up? I literally just said the opposite? Either way I PM'd [UoN], let's see what he has to say.

I mean you could use the time to tell us why you voted but didn't talk.

First I want an answer from you [/QUOTE]
No you didn't
[/quote]
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/538533-secret-hitler-act-i-take-ii?page=25#481

The fact that you are the first one mentioning it makes it NAI until you explain it.
I mean it seems like you wanted to do something with it. It was obvioulsy sonething you planned so I have to know what you planned.

NAI? So what do you think I planned?
On November 04 2018 08:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Anyone watching blizzcon?

Only watched the BW stuff, but think it's all over now
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 04 2018 00:09 GMT
#521
On November 04 2018 08:25 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 09:05 byj wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:25 happykrogan wrote:
Scroll up? I literally just said the opposite? Either way I PM'd [UoN], let's see what he has to say.

First I want an answer from you

No you didn't

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/538533-secret-hitler-act-i-take-ii?page=25#481

The fact that you are the first one mentioning it makes it NAI until you explain it.
I mean it seems like you wanted to do something with it. It was obvioulsy sonething you planned so I have to know what you planned.

NAI? So what do you think I planned?
On November 04 2018 08:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Anyone watching blizzcon?

Only watched the BW stuff, but think it's all over now
Fixed quotes now
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 04 2018 02:00 GMT
#530
On November 04 2018 09:11 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 09:09 byj wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:25 happykrogan wrote:
On November 04 2018 09:05 byj wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:25 happykrogan wrote:
Scroll up? I literally just said the opposite? Either way I PM'd [UoN], let's see what he has to say.

First I want an answer from you

No you didn't

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/538533-secret-hitler-act-i-take-ii?page=25#481

The fact that you are the first one mentioning it makes it NAI until you explain it.
I mean it seems like you wanted to do something with it. It was obvioulsy sonething you planned so I have to know what you planned.

NAI? So what do you think I planned?
On November 04 2018 08:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Anyone watching blizzcon?

Only watched the BW stuff, but think it's all over now
Fixed quotes now

idk tell me

Interpret it first
(and I don't know what NAI means )
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 11:05 GMT
#555
On November 04 2018 13:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

Thanks <3
On November 05 2018 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record i just went to check the last game and idk what people are talking about but byj was the only one in that game to even vote for mafia and almost figured out the game on D2. Yeah he didn't say much there but what do you expect in a game that was something ridiculous like 10 pages in total. The point is he actually had reads and they werent even retarded.

<3
Probably the game before that

asking random questions that don't seem like they serve a purpose.

What makes you think they don't serve a purpose?


On November 04 2018 21:32 happykrogan wrote:
but I acknowledge that you might think you had a good plan.

I was hoping for people to come 'defend' my plan, or try to not push me too hard. There would be no reason to do so, so I can assume the people doing so are Scum trying to gain my credit. Especially now in hindsight that Rels and Conversation seem to be easy to push as Scum instead (doesn't mean I think they're innocent either, they flatout ignored what I did =\).
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 13:51 GMT
#559
On November 05 2018 20:33 happykrogan wrote:
A plan you still didn't share with us. So what was your plan? Or your fake plan to cover up the actual plan which was finding people that would defend your fake plan.

Is getting reads onto people not a plan?

Also don't you think it's more probable that scum would attack you on this?
The second half of your post looks like your reasoning for scum potentially defending you, is that Rels and Conversion are targets that are easier to push for mafia, so you have to think they're town.

There are only 3 Scums, so 'having a solid scumread' against 3 as Scum would be sub-optimal, since then you'd pretty much expected to vote for everyone else. So max. 2 townies, but likely more, if you're Hitler, or pretending to play against other Fascists.
But then you say you don't think they have to be innocent so your whole post doesn't make sense.

I really don't get the logic in that conclusion, care to elaborate?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 13:53 GMT
#560
On November 05 2018 22:15 happykrogan wrote:
(which would be kind of funny because he is austrian)


On November 05 2018 22:15 happykrogan wrote:
The whole voting but not talking thing I could interpret as an attempt to communicate with his scumbuddies. Also he is talking a lot about hitler. Like almost half of his serious posts.

Why would Hitler need to out himself?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 17:50 GMT
#604
On November 05 2018 23:11 happykrogan wrote:
For people defending your bait plan, you need to tell us your plan first. If your plan is just: Let's look for people defending my plan, no one will be defend your fake/bait plan because you never told it.

You can react to it either way. It's just that people don't seem to want to do so.

You think scum would defend you because it is easier to push rels and Conversion. Therefore you have to have a townread on both of them.Then you proceed to say you don't have a townread on them.

On November 05 2018 23:19 happykrogan wrote:
Hitler would not out himself anyways because scum knows him. It would be a communication attempt to see who the other fascists are.

Instead of just waiting for them to communicate to him?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 17:52 GMT
#605

You think scum would defend you because it is easier to push rels and Conversion. Therefore you have to have a townread on both of them.Then you proceed to say you don't have a townread on them.

I don't need to have a town read on anybody to say they're easier to push than me???
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 17:56 GMT
#606
On November 06 2018 01:39 Conversion wrote:
elect always: rayn

Why exactly again?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 23:23 GMT
#635
On November 06 2018 03:44 Conversion wrote:
why am I or Rels suspicious for flat out ignoring you on getting reads onto people?

Did I say that?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 23:27 GMT
#636
On November 06 2018 04:12 happykrogan wrote:
You are assuming, that if you vote but not talk mafia will defend you.

Or flat out ignore me? :~)

The reason for that is, that rels and conversion are easier to push as mafia.
Therefore if you are telling the truth, you have to think they are both town, because otherwise mafia wouldn't want to push them.
If they wouldn't rather push them then you (because they are also mafia) your logic why mafia would defend you has failed.
Therefore you have to think they are town.
I hope I made it clearer.

Do you think it Scum wouldn't push each other eventually? I find it highly likely that at least 1 of them would have to be town, but not enough to vote for them ofc
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 23:33 GMT
#638
On November 06 2018 08:27 byj wrote:
Do you think it Scum wouldn't push each other eventually? I find it highly likely that at least 1 of them (Rels, Conv) would have to be town, but not enough to vote for them ofc

On November 05 2018 20:05 byj wrote:
Especially now in hindsight that Rels and Conversation seem to be easy to push as Scum instead (doesn't mean I think they're innocent either, they flatout ignored what I did =\).

In case you missed it
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 05 2018 23:39 GMT
#640
No, only ones I'd vote in are me and Grack for now
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 06 2018 01:09 GMT
#642
On November 06 2018 09:04 kitaman27 wrote:
You realize that's only going to happen once every 8 rounds and it's unlikely to pass, right?

Statue of limitation for chancellor is 1 cycle, so we could have Grack be every 2nd chancellor - if you guys trust him enough that is

How do you intend to make any progress doing that?

We are doing fine for now, and could likely (please don't calc the % to disprove me :~) ) reach 7 liberal policies before 3 Fascist ones. Obviously I'd like to have 2-3 others I could trust my vote for, but currently it's the a bit weird looking guy as president and a neutral looking chancellor.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 06 2018 02:11 GMT
#650
So kitaman, why did you vote no? :~)
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 07 2018 03:05 GMT
#702
On November 07 2018 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why has byj been pro-Grackaroni?

Feels townie especially with how Election #2 went, seems very genuine, especially with supposedly discarding the F from LLF
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 07 2018 19:27 GMT
#749
I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF?
On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve.

I still think it's a good plan and not naive =]
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 07 2018 20:28 GMT
#753
On November 08 2018 04:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 04:27 byj wrote:
I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF?
On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve.

I still think it's a good plan and not naive =]

Kita calculated it to 35%. Just did it and I also find 36%. Why are you voting yes ?

Oh that's high. Because I trust Grack, but I expected the FFF chance to be lower. I don't trust kita enough to leave him a 33% excuse, is it possible to change my vote?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
526 Posts
November 09 2018 16:14 GMT
#908
On November 08 2018 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Explain to me, if prplhz is town what does it matter if Grackaroni as scum gives him one or two liberal cards???

[/QUOTE]
I never judged prplhz's alignment there, but Grack's thread play? He seemed very genuine in his reaction. But theoretically speaking do you prefer a possible F and us having to figure out who's the Scum between Grack and prpl over having a guaranteed L?
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