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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:00 GMT
#401
On November 03 2018 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 05:41 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2018 03:55 Conversion wrote:
sorry-- I meant to say if this government doesn't get passed, I still think I can't vote you or HK

That's true.

Grackaroni i would like you to vote yes. I am -- like you -- more certain of conversion being town than prplhz but i really think this is a correct way to do this. Worst case scenario you get FFF (which also conversion will if you reject). Second worse scenario is prplhz is scum, but then you will have 1v1 against him. Third worse scenario, he elects liberal (or is town)....

Meh.. if you think Conversion is town, then you should vote yes now. Always unless you are completely sure prplhz is mafia.

??? If you're more sure of Conv than prp, you should tell him to vote NO and get Conv / Grack next round.

no this is suntrue.

enlighten me then
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:05 GMT
#405
On November 03 2018 06:02 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 05:53 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2018 04:48 prplhz wrote:
On November 03 2018 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If this government gets passed you can elect me/hk, conversion.

Prplhz any reads? Why is grack scum?

Uh, I think he started the whole mess about me and kita but then he sort of slipped out of it and just stood on the sidelines.

He made a post about probabilities that I sort of disagreed with and looked like he was just spreading chaos.

His posting style has some sort of straight forwardsness to it that I associate with townies so that's good.

I don't like how he's treating this election this though, voting no to himself, but you should still elect me.

I don't have a ton of reads, I kind of like krogan but that's it. I'm equally uncertain about you and kita, Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. byj sort of slipped under the radar with me but kita pointed out some meta about him and tons of people play like this as town.

I was uncertain about Grackaroni and Conversion (which was part of the reason I voted for krogan and you) but I thought I'd figure out kita a bit better before long so I might be able to vote for his government but that's not really happening.

So. You think Grack is scum, but you still want your duo to pass ? That makes no sense to me. You should be thinking that he's setting you up for failure with what you're writing.

no, i don't really know what grack is. i don't get the "setting me up" thing but it doesn't worry me either.

don't you ? That eases some on my concerns then
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:06 GMT
#407
On November 03 2018 06:05 prplhz wrote:
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On November 03 2018 05:58 Rels wrote:
prp's filter is so scummy it's unbelievable.
- easy to talk about subjects (townie people should be elected, talk about number of cards, etc.)
- this stuff with kita that makes no sense at the beginning
- thinking Grack is scum, but still wanting Grack / him to be elected, even though in that case he himself says he only has 26% chance to get liberal passing

show me where i say we only have a 26% chance of passing a liberal policy

tell me how to achieve a considerably higher probability of passing a liberal policy in some other manner

On November 03 2018 00:20 prplhz wrote:
Phoneposting.

If krogan and rayn told the truth we have 5L9F in the deck.

P(0L3F) = 23
P(1L2F) = 49
P(2L1F) = 24
P(3L0F) = 2

I don't have much confidence in the (which was part of why I voted yes to Logan/rayn) but I super want to get elected.

Grack is voting against his own government, I don't get it. He chose it. If town, he has 26 chance to force liberal policy and 49 to force either liberal policy or split between me and him. That split will give a lot of info to town because I think that we both are sort of grey in town opinion.

Not wanting to elect yourself is just avoiding reasonability, "don't look at me, I didn't do anything!". I don't like it at all. I still think you should elect me though because scum Grack can't really do much without giving up a lot. I think it's super worth it.

Sorry for shitty phoneposting. #VotePRPLHZ2018.

If Grack is scum and you're town he has 26% chance to be forced to have a liberal policy
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:09 GMT
#408
That actually doesn't ease my concerns at all. ALmost everything there is at charge against Grack, apart from that line about forwardness. That doesn"'t match your claimed "neutral" read of him.
On November 03 2018 00:20 prplhz wrote:
Phoneposting.

If krogan and rayn told the truth we have 5L9F in the deck.

P(0L3F) = 23
P(1L2F) = 49
P(2L1F) = 24
P(3L0F) = 2

I don't have much confidence in the (which was part of why I voted yes to Logan/rayn) but I super want to get elected.

Grack is voting against his own government, I don't get it. He chose it. If town, he has 26 chance to force liberal policy and 49 to force either liberal policy or split between me and him. That split will give a lot of info to town because I think that we both are sort of grey in town opinion.

Not wanting to elect yourself is just avoiding reasonability, "don't look at me, I didn't do anything!". I don't like it at all. I still think you should elect me though because scum Grack can't really do much without giving up a lot. I think it's super worth it.

Sorry for shitty phoneposting. #VotePRPLHZ2018.

On November 03 2018 04:48 prplhz wrote:
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On November 03 2018 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If this government gets passed you can elect me/hk, conversion.

Prplhz any reads? Why is grack scum?

Uh, I think he started the whole mess about me and kita but then he sort of slipped out of it and just stood on the sidelines.

He made a post about probabilities that I sort of disagreed with and looked like he was just spreading chaos.

His posting style has some sort of straight forwardsness to it that I associate with townies so that's good.

I don't like how he's treating this election this though, voting no to himself, but you should still elect me.

I don't have a ton of reads, I kind of like krogan but that's it. I'm equally uncertain about you and kita, Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. byj sort of slipped under the radar with me but kita pointed out some meta about him and tons of people play like this as town.

I was uncertain about Grackaroni and Conversion (which was part of the reason I voted for krogan and you) but I thought I'd figure out kita a bit better before long so I might be able to vote for his government but that's not really happening.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:10 GMT
#409
I think you posted that "I don't really know what Grack is" post just because you didn't know how to answer my question
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:11 GMT
#410
On November 03 2018 06:04 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 05:59 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:57 prplhz wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:50 Rels wrote:
On October 31 2018 09:57 prplhz wrote:
On October 31 2018 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meh i am going to try be more clear, sorry, explaining shit is not my strong suit.

So purplehaze, this is what bothers me:

- You have taken part to discussion of how governments should be elected and imo come to conclusion that we should elect townie people.
- After the above has happened, you ask "Is it a good idea to make the chancellor someone who is easy to read?"
- When krogan asks you "why do you ask that?", you answer:
It's that things stay more simple if we can trust the first governments. It's actually I thought, let's just elect kita but he's super hard to read I think, so he can mess things up early and we can't trust anything that's going on later because we don't know if he lied about policies or not.


The last quote doesn't make any sense unless you were, at the time of when you asked "Is it a good idea to make the chancellor someone who is easy to read?", thinking of electing kitaman, but both your answer (in the last quote), and how you took part to the discussion earlier disagrees with that.

No, I wasn't thinking about electing kita when I asked that question. Before I asked that question I was thinking about electing kita but then I changed my mind and made a post about what had changed my mind (how readability and townyness ). Then I thought that it was a good idea to elect townie people (and not necessarily super scum hunters), and I wrote it in the thread, in the form of a question because then maybe someone will answer and maybe we can talk about something.

I don't think anybody in the thread had clearly expressed the thought that townyness is important, and skill/dependability irrelevant up until that point. But maybe nobody had found that necessary to point out, because nobody had had the same thought process as me which was

1) elect kita/random! (nothing matters)
2) maybe do like mayor elections (or how i pretty much every game in that I sheep a lot)? (skill and townyness matter)
3) no, the only things that matter are readbility/townyness (townyness matters, skill is irrelevant)

Regardless of the kita thing, which I still think is suspicious, the bolded screams of "I am scum and I need an easy subject to talk about".

are you seriously going to open up this dumb this again

and not even quoting the original post, but the post where i explained the original post. you're not posting the post where i said something but the post where i said that i said something.

so ? Does that change anything ?

yea, it seems very unserious if you think something is scummy the second time you read it but not the first time.

But I thought it was scummy the first time I read it. I think it's literally my first post.
Second on actually.
On October 30 2018 22:15 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 09:06 prplhz wrote:
Is it a good idea to make the chancellor someone who is easy to read?

As opposed to what ? Hard to read ? What's the benefit of that ?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:15 GMT
#412
On November 03 2018 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 06:00 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:41 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2018 03:55 Conversion wrote:
sorry-- I meant to say if this government doesn't get passed, I still think I can't vote you or HK

That's true.

Grackaroni i would like you to vote yes. I am -- like you -- more certain of conversion being town than prplhz but i really think this is a correct way to do this. Worst case scenario you get FFF (which also conversion will if you reject). Second worse scenario is prplhz is scum, but then you will have 1v1 against him. Third worse scenario, he elects liberal (or is town)....

Meh.. if you think Conversion is town, then you should vote yes now. Always unless you are completely sure prplhz is mafia.

??? If you're more sure of Conv than prp, you should tell him to vote NO and get Conv / Grack next round.

no this is suntrue.

enlighten me then

I think Conversion is town and then look at the president queue.

I could understand that you don't want a Grack president / Conversion chancellor if you think they're both town, since they're president one after the other. But since that opportunity has passed, there is only Conv president / Grack chancellor left for this loop's turn.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:26 GMT
#421
On November 03 2018 06:23 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 06:09 Rels wrote:
That actually doesn't ease my concerns at all. ALmost everything there is at charge against Grack, apart from that line about forwardness. That doesn"'t match your claimed "neutral" read of him.
On November 03 2018 00:20 prplhz wrote:
Phoneposting.

If krogan and rayn told the truth we have 5L9F in the deck.

P(0L3F) = 23
P(1L2F) = 49
P(2L1F) = 24
P(3L0F) = 2

I don't have much confidence in the (which was part of why I voted yes to Logan/rayn) but I super want to get elected.

Grack is voting against his own government, I don't get it. He chose it. If town, he has 26 chance to force liberal policy and 49 to force either liberal policy or split between me and him. That split will give a lot of info to town because I think that we both are sort of grey in town opinion.

Not wanting to elect yourself is just avoiding reasonability, "don't look at me, I didn't do anything!". I don't like it at all. I still think you should elect me though because scum Grack can't really do much without giving up a lot. I think it's super worth it.

Sorry for shitty phoneposting. #VotePRPLHZ2018.

On November 03 2018 04:48 prplhz wrote:
On November 03 2018 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If this government gets passed you can elect me/hk, conversion.

Prplhz any reads? Why is grack scum?

Uh, I think he started the whole mess about me and kita but then he sort of slipped out of it and just stood on the sidelines.

He made a post about probabilities that I sort of disagreed with and looked like he was just spreading chaos.

His posting style has some sort of straight forwardsness to it that I associate with townies so that's good.

I don't like how he's treating this election this though, voting no to himself, but you should still elect me.

I don't have a ton of reads, I kind of like krogan but that's it. I'm equally uncertain about you and kita, Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. byj sort of slipped under the radar with me but kita pointed out some meta about him and tons of people play like this as town.

I was uncertain about Grackaroni and Conversion (which was part of the reason I voted for krogan and you) but I thought I'd figure out kita a bit better before long so I might be able to vote for his government but that's not really happening.


i don't have a strong read of grack, or anybody really, maybe it's slightly scum but i kinda just want to get elected. i don't think it's all that likely nor disastrous if grack passes me 2F.

First, why don't you think it's likely ?
Second, I would think it's pretty disastrous in your shoes. Do you think you have more thread cred than Grack atm ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:47 GMT
#434
On November 03 2018 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Rels are you still here?

yeah ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 21:47 GMT
#435
rayn can you answer my question about usual voting pattern in Hitler ?
And anyone who has played this before too
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 22:00 GMT
#439
On November 03 2018 06:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh yeah I was going to ask your thoughts on a me/conversion team but w/e.

would be the ideal team that doesn't include me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 22:08 GMT
#443
me too TBF. If I'm wrong on prp the game might be won right there
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 22:10 GMT
#447
my brain tells me there is probably one scum in the first team
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 22:12 GMT
#450
On November 03 2018 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 07:10 Rels wrote:
my brain tells me there is probably one scum in the first team

my brain tells me you are very hard pushing this agenda for no reason other than you are scum with kitaman who just voted yes onto a team that he never should have voted yes on

does it ? Now can you tell me if in your experience, a landslide D1 vote indicates scum in the team ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 22:16 GMT
#452
On November 03 2018 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 07:12 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:10 Rels wrote:
my brain tells me there is probably one scum in the first team

my brain tells me you are very hard pushing this agenda for no reason other than you are scum with kitaman who just voted yes onto a team that he never should have voted yes on

does it ? Now can you tell me if in your experience, a landslide D1 vote indicates scum in the team ?

idk what a "landslide D1 vote" means

a lot of votes for YES
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 22:26 GMT
#456
On November 03 2018 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 07:16 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:12 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:10 Rels wrote:
my brain tells me there is probably one scum in the first team

my brain tells me you are very hard pushing this agenda for no reason other than you are scum with kitaman who just voted yes onto a team that he never should have voted yes on

does it ? Now can you tell me if in your experience, a landslide D1 vote indicates scum in the team ?

idk what a "landslide D1 vote" means

a lot of votes for YES

Idk, from what the thread sentiment was, what can scum do there in case me and krogan are town? Vote no for a shitty reason like you or Conversion? Or what, call us fascist? For what reason? What alternative do they have? Why are you avoiding to actually calling one of us mafia for some shitty "gameplaywise reason" you cant actually answer?

you're so angry at nothing and not wanting to collaborate, it irritates me so much. I actually thought you were maybe conf town a while ago so I don't understand why you're talking to me like that, like I'm pushing an agenda to make you lose credibility when I did the exact opposite a while ago. I'm talking to you because I value your fucking opinion. And yes I'm worried about you because I almost never manage to catch you as scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2018 22:29 GMT
#457
On November 03 2018 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why are you avoiding to actually calling one of us mafia for some shitty "gameplaywise reason" you cant actually answer?

I mean why are you calling "one of us" mafia for some shitty gameplaywise reason that you cant even back up on by yourself instead of making an actual read and call one of us mafia. And yeah the "one of those two" is another shitty thing because you arent specifying which one and that in itself makes the read you have on "us" already bs.... Just like kitaman's "i call grack scum because i group conversion and rels here and blablabla", meh, this is not "only facts no opinions" Rels, this is jsut dumb and probably scum.

because that's exactly the way it is. I didn't have anything specifically against you two, apart frm that feeling that the game started too easily.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 03 2018 19:56 GMT
#494
On November 04 2018 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So grackaroni is pretty much conf town if we draw 3 more liberal policies.

yep
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 03 2018 20:00 GMT
#496
do fascists really know each other ? I thought that too, but reading the OP it looks like they don't
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 03 2018 20:01 GMT
#497
On November 04 2018 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 07:10 Rels wrote:
my brain tells me there is probably one scum in the first team

Now, which one, and why. Time to put some meat on the bone.

I have nothing more than yesterday
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