EPT[M][T] Secret Hitler, Act I, Take II - Page 18
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kitaman27
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 02 2018 23:08 kitaman27 wrote: That was directed at conversion. lolol yeah i started reading and was lile wtf. :D :D | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 02 2018 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I aisi have absolutely zero idea how anyone could ever think byj is even remotely townie, so that read of yours sounds like bs. Unless you have some extremely through meta-analysis. I went by his single game in the database: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia?user=byj Dude had a bunch of 1 liners, didn't really care how he looked, and ended up getting mislynched as town. I definitely don't feel good about having him in my top 4, but I think he looks slightly better than prpl at the moment and is more of an afk than having done anything inherently scummy so far. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On November 02 2018 23:21 kitaman27 wrote: I went by his single game in the database: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia?user=byj Dude had a bunch of 1 liners, didn't really care how he looked, and ended up getting mislynched as town. I definitely don't feel good about having him in my top 4, but I think he looks slightly better than prpl at the moment and is more of an afk than having done anything inherently scummy so far. +1 to this. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 02 2018 23:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: No you dont. You group Rels/Conversion both into the same category and dont come to any conclusion. Thats different from what i said. You do the same thing in one of your later posts too. I think the difference is that your argument is that grack with Rels/Conversion cannot make sense in mind, where as mine was that I'd update the list if that scenario where grack pairs himself with one of those players became reality. He threw it out there for a little bit, but settled on prpl eventually, which I don't think is enough to disregard the possibility completely. Do you think there is a strong enough argument to completely eliminate the possibility of grack + Rels or grack + conversion at the moment? I don't think so. Overall though, I think my trust ratings are better suited as tiers. tier 1: krogan/rayn (myself) tier 2: byj/prl/grack tier 3: conversion/rels | ||
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Grackaroni
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I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum. I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes. Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense: On November 02 2018 09:59 prplhz wrote: No wait a second. Assuming that krogan told the truth about the cards, what are the odds of grack getting 1 or less liberal policies? On November 02 2018 10:00 prplhz wrote: I think it's acceptable if we already discarded 1L and 2F. I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback. | ||
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Conversion
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On November 02 2018 23:07 kitaman27 wrote: What's your opinion of prpl? I don't see him mentioned in your filter. Since you failed the pair yesterday, but are willing to pass today's team, does that mean that your original policy is no longer necessary? If you're voting yes today and you're on board with selecting rayn or krogan next cycle, does that mean you think the facist team is myself/Rels/byj? On November 01 2018 00:38 Conversion wrote: In all seriousness, I like to always pass the first go, in any similar game like mafia when possible, to reveal where votes went and talk about that to get more information and give me one more round to work with, since drawing a random card as a policy isn't the worst thing ever, neither is adding one to the election tracker early on. Whether that's optimal or not, I'm not quite sure but I do like doing it. Considering we can get RNG'd and get a F/F/F draw (unless this is impossible, someone correct me please if it is), I don't see why we're in any rush to elect this particular government. I'm not actually going to just be anti-liberal for the sake of it. I think enacting governments is a good way to get information, especially if we are up one right now and have a guaranteed +1 liberal policy barring any unlucky draws, or if one or both of krogan/rayn played us and passed a liberal card, in which case we won't be incredibly behind and it'll give us a look into getting more information as liberals. In terms of who's the most liberal in my eyes (as in, I'd elect them Chancellor), it'd be rayn = krogan > everyone else, even if I'm salty about krogan doing nothing but calling me a liar just from how government 1 went. | ||
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Grackaroni
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Conversion
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On November 02 2018 23:35 Grackaroni wrote: After lots of paranoia I'm actually going to vote NO on this team. I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum. I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes. Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense: I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback. Who would you have me vote (besides yourself) for chancellor? keeping in mind people will most not likely push me through anyways.. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On November 02 2018 23:41 Conversion wrote: Who would you have me vote (besides yourself) for chancellor? keeping in mind people will most not likely push me through anyways.. I would probably still put Rayn over anyone else, but I think town has gotten itself way too complacent in assuming Rayn/Krogan are both town from the first policy. | ||
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Conversion
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Grackaroni
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On November 02 2018 23:47 Conversion wrote: also to @Grack I felt like HK was more focused on calling me scum (not sure who he thinks my partner is in that case) than byj/rels, no? He says me/prp are above you/byj/Rels. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 02 2018 23:38 Conversion wrote: I'm not actually going to just be anti-liberal for the sake of it. I think enacting governments is a good way to get information, especially if we are up one right now and have a guaranteed +1 liberal policy barring any unlucky draws, or if one or both of krogan/rayn played us and passed a liberal card, in which case we won't be incredibly behind and it'll give us a look into getting more information as liberals. In terms of who's the most liberal in my eyes (as in, I'd elect them Chancellor), it'd be rayn = krogan > everyone else, even if I'm salty about krogan doing nothing but calling me a liar just from how government 1 went. Fair enough. Do you have any opinion of prpl specifically? | ||
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Conversion
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On November 02 2018 23:47 Grackaroni wrote: He says me/prp are above you/byj/Rels. interesting. On November 02 2018 20:00 happykrogan wrote: I'm going to vote yes. I am not entirely confident in the team, but if I would only vote teams of two players I townread I would almost never vote yes. And Grack and prplhz are at least less scummy then Rels/Conversion/byj And whatever happens, we always get information out of it, so I generally prefer voting yes anyway. @HK Can I get some clarification on what team would make sense, since you are so steadfast in believing that I am scum through my lying nature? Would it be me-byj, or me-rels? | ||
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Grackaroni
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Conversion
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On November 02 2018 23:49 kitaman27 wrote: Fair enough. Do you have any opinion of prpl specifically? Let me take a look into his filter. I recall him being pretty neutral (and I historically can never read the dude correctly..) | ||
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Conversion
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On November 01 2018 02:46 prplhz wrote: It's that I don't have unlimited time and people were super mad. I'm thinking about some other things too, but I'm not ready to post. what other things were you thinking about prplhz? confused as to why you didn't just post what your thoughts were and instead went straight back into one liners for a bit after | ||
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Conversion
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On November 02 2018 10:00 prplhz wrote: I think it's acceptable if we already discarded 1L and 2F. also why is voting you contingent on what cards we drew? or am I missing/messing something up here | ||
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