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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2018 02:27 GMT
#281
Current odds if HK is telling the truth:

P(3 fascist): 23.08%
P(2 fascist 1 liberal):49.45%
P(1 fascist 2 liberal): 24.73%
P(3 liberal): 2.75%

If HK lied:

P(3 fascist): 32.97%
P(2 fascist 1 liberal):49.45%
P(1 fascist 2 liberal): 16.48%
P(3 liberal): 1.1%
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 01 2018 02:30 GMT
#282
On November 01 2018 08:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 08:14 kitaman27 wrote:
We should elect rayn as much as possible then. :D :D :D

lol.

I don't know what Conversion's deal is right now but I think he's probably town.

why?

If I remember correctly I had problems with reading town players as mafia, who were actually just careless or had a toxic attitude, so I am genuinely interested.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2018 02:33 GMT
#283
On November 01 2018 11:30 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 08:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 01 2018 08:14 kitaman27 wrote:
We should elect rayn as much as possible then. :D :D :D

lol.

I don't know what Conversion's deal is right now but I think he's probably town.

why?

If I remember correctly I had problems with reading town players as mafia, who were actually just careless or had a toxic attitude, so I am genuinely interested.

I think the tone that he has can be surprisingly hard to fake as mafia it's not how mafia players usually approach the game.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 01 2018 02:35 GMT
#284
On November 01 2018 11:33 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 11:30 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2018 08:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 01 2018 08:14 kitaman27 wrote:
We should elect rayn as much as possible then. :D :D :D

lol.

I don't know what Conversion's deal is right now but I think he's probably town.

why?

If I remember correctly I had problems with reading town players as mafia, who were actually just careless or had a toxic attitude, so I am genuinely interested.

I think the tone that he has can be surprisingly hard to fake as mafia it's not how mafia players usually approach the game.

So It's a read you make by experience?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2018 02:37 GMT
#285
On November 01 2018 11:35 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 11:33 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 01 2018 11:30 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2018 08:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 01 2018 08:14 kitaman27 wrote:
We should elect rayn as much as possible then. :D :D :D

lol.

I don't know what Conversion's deal is right now but I think he's probably town.

why?

If I remember correctly I had problems with reading town players as mafia, who were actually just careless or had a toxic attitude, so I am genuinely interested.

I think the tone that he has can be surprisingly hard to fake as mafia it's not how mafia players usually approach the game.

So It's a read you make by experience?

yeah that's just my gut feeling unrelated to his town/scum play specifically.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2018 02:53 GMT
#286
On November 01 2018 11:26 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 07:20 Conversion wrote:
also you fixating on a point on me "lying" is really inane and forced trying to generate content when no one's paying attention to you

also I hope we draw F/F/F and descend in to chaos

you might not believe me, but I actually think lying is a scummy thing to do.
And you did lie, as you stated two contradicting things.

Also I think this response is scummy.
It doesn't fit into the careless attitude you showed, because you are clearly bothered by it.
Also instead of explaining why you said what you said as town (what town should be capable of), you decided to attack me and my credibility, calling it an desperate attempt of generating content.
Also you made this post, which I interpret as an attempt of making me look stupid

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 07:19 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2018 06:19 happykrogan wrote:
Conversion did a very good in totally confusing me...
I don't get what he wanted to say, but I guess it doesn't matter as his theory was under a wrong understanding of the game mechanics...?

He still lied though


you could have read nothing but my last post and gotten that conclusion

congrats!

Where I stated that trying to figure out your argument was confusing me (before I read your last post of course), which I admit was unnecessary to state as I already realized it doesn't matter anyways.

But the way you attacked me on it, together with the second post, seems like scum trying to defend themself by making the person with the argument look bad opposed to trying to convince him that argument was flawed.


so what makes you so sure that I was lying instead of literally forgetting what I wrote?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2018 02:53 GMT
#287
On November 01 2018 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Cool.

I'm probably going to pick either Conversion on Rels.


why Rels out of curiosity?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2018 02:57 GMT
#288
On November 01 2018 11:53 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Cool.

I'm probably going to pick either Conversion on Rels.


why Rels out of curiosity?

Honestly entirely because he gave me a town lean and lack of other options.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 01 2018 03:03 GMT
#289
I'm not really a big fan of Rels. He down voted the first pair after wanting more time for discussion, but hasn't contributed anything meaningful himself.

That being said, none of the alternatives inspire a ton of confidence. I'd ask you to reconsider me, but that's your call.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2018 07:32 GMT
#290
On November 01 2018 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Cool.

I'm probably going to pick either Conversion on Rels.

Why would you ever pick Rels????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2018 08:35 GMT
#291
I am going to elaborate more onto my reads whwn o get off work a couple of hours before deadline. But rn i think Grackaroni has a high chance of being town and surprisingly i agree with his read on Conversion. I also think prplhz might be town.

I dont really find anything kitaman/Rels/byj have done townie. As for kita, i dont really think he has done anything scummy either but imo that doesnt really warrant a townread on a player of his caliber.
table for two on a tv tray
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 01 2018 09:36 GMT
#292
On November 01 2018 11:53 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 11:26 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2018 07:20 Conversion wrote:
also you fixating on a point on me "lying" is really inane and forced trying to generate content when no one's paying attention to you

also I hope we draw F/F/F and descend in to chaos

you might not believe me, but I actually think lying is a scummy thing to do.
And you did lie, as you stated two contradicting things.

Also I think this response is scummy.
It doesn't fit into the careless attitude you showed, because you are clearly bothered by it.
Also instead of explaining why you said what you said as town (what town should be capable of), you decided to attack me and my credibility, calling it an desperate attempt of generating content.
Also you made this post, which I interpret as an attempt of making me look stupid

On November 01 2018 07:19 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2018 06:19 happykrogan wrote:
Conversion did a very good in totally confusing me...
I don't get what he wanted to say, but I guess it doesn't matter as his theory was under a wrong understanding of the game mechanics...?

He still lied though


you could have read nothing but my last post and gotten that conclusion

congrats!

Where I stated that trying to figure out your argument was confusing me (before I read your last post of course), which I admit was unnecessary to state as I already realized it doesn't matter anyways.

But the way you attacked me on it, together with the second post, seems like scum trying to defend themself by making the person with the argument look bad opposed to trying to convince him that argument was flawed.


so what makes you so sure that I was lying instead of literally forgetting what I wrote?

If you're forgot what you wrote and then write a contradicting statement, you have to be scum. If it really was your opinion, that we should vote no, because of information we can get out of the votes, you wouldn't say you don't care about the votes later.You would still have that opinion, whether you remember already writing it or not.

So even if you forgot what you wrote, one of the statements is still false, therefore you lied.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 01 2018 09:38 GMT
#293
On November 01 2018 18:36 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 11:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2018 11:26 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2018 07:20 Conversion wrote:
also you fixating on a point on me "lying" is really inane and forced trying to generate content when no one's paying attention to you

also I hope we draw F/F/F and descend in to chaos

you might not believe me, but I actually think lying is a scummy thing to do.
And you did lie, as you stated two contradicting things.

Also I think this response is scummy.
It doesn't fit into the careless attitude you showed, because you are clearly bothered by it.
Also instead of explaining why you said what you said as town (what town should be capable of), you decided to attack me and my credibility, calling it an desperate attempt of generating content.
Also you made this post, which I interpret as an attempt of making me look stupid

On November 01 2018 07:19 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2018 06:19 happykrogan wrote:
Conversion did a very good in totally confusing me...
I don't get what he wanted to say, but I guess it doesn't matter as his theory was under a wrong understanding of the game mechanics...?

He still lied though


you could have read nothing but my last post and gotten that conclusion

congrats!

Where I stated that trying to figure out your argument was confusing me (before I read your last post of course), which I admit was unnecessary to state as I already realized it doesn't matter anyways.

But the way you attacked me on it, together with the second post, seems like scum trying to defend themself by making the person with the argument look bad opposed to trying to convince him that argument was flawed.


so what makes you so sure that I was lying instead of literally forgetting what I wrote?

If you're forgot what you wrote and then write a contradicting statement, you have to be scum. If it really was your opinion, that we should vote no, because of information we can get out of the votes, you wouldn't say you don't care about the votes later.You would still have that opinion, whether you remember already writing it or not.

So even if you forgot what you wrote, one of the statements is still false, therefore you lied.

@Grackaroni
@Raynpelikoneet

How can such behaviour ever come from town?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2018 09:58 GMT
#294
On November 01 2018 18:38 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 18:36 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2018 11:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2018 11:26 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2018 07:20 Conversion wrote:
also you fixating on a point on me "lying" is really inane and forced trying to generate content when no one's paying attention to you

also I hope we draw F/F/F and descend in to chaos

you might not believe me, but I actually think lying is a scummy thing to do.
And you did lie, as you stated two contradicting things.

Also I think this response is scummy.
It doesn't fit into the careless attitude you showed, because you are clearly bothered by it.
Also instead of explaining why you said what you said as town (what town should be capable of), you decided to attack me and my credibility, calling it an desperate attempt of generating content.
Also you made this post, which I interpret as an attempt of making me look stupid

On November 01 2018 07:19 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2018 06:19 happykrogan wrote:
Conversion did a very good in totally confusing me...
I don't get what he wanted to say, but I guess it doesn't matter as his theory was under a wrong understanding of the game mechanics...?

He still lied though


you could have read nothing but my last post and gotten that conclusion

congrats!

Where I stated that trying to figure out your argument was confusing me (before I read your last post of course), which I admit was unnecessary to state as I already realized it doesn't matter anyways.

But the way you attacked me on it, together with the second post, seems like scum trying to defend themself by making the person with the argument look bad opposed to trying to convince him that argument was flawed.


so what makes you so sure that I was lying instead of literally forgetting what I wrote?

If you're forgot what you wrote and then write a contradicting statement, you have to be scum. If it really was your opinion, that we should vote no, because of information we can get out of the votes, you wouldn't say you don't care about the votes later.You would still have that opinion, whether you remember already writing it or not.

So even if you forgot what you wrote, one of the statements is still false, therefore you lied.

@Grackaroni
@Raynpelikoneet

How can such behaviour ever come from town?

I would agree with you if this was about something that really matters, like if conversion had a scumread on someone and then forgot about it. But i dont think gameplaywise technical things go to that category and if he wants to discuss those things as scum i'd think he'd be sure to keep his story straight (because he can basically have any opinion he wants and it doesnt necessarily make him scum -- thats why this long discussion about technical things sucks, just play the game and make reads, thats priority #1).

You'd be surprised how dumb things people can actually do. Some games ago we had a player who didnt know how their role worked, even after they were told to go re-read their role pm....
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2018 09:59 GMT
#295
Anyways i dont think grackaroni should choose conversion as chancellor anyways since conversion is next in line for president.
table for two on a tv tray
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2018 12:20 GMT
#296
On November 01 2018 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i dont think grackaroni should choose conversion as chancellor anyways since conversion is next in line for president.


I agree with this statement, not sure if Rels should be the alternative though
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2018 12:20 GMT
#297
not not sure, I think he shouldn’t be.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2018 13:44 GMT
#298
On November 01 2018 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i dont think grackaroni should choose conversion as chancellor anyways since conversion is next in line for president.

I don't understand this.

I just submitted Conversion but I can still change.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2018 13:44 GMT
#299
I am thinking purplehaze. So far my read on him is town or possibly hitler. As i said i will elaborate further on that whwn i get on computer.
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2018 13:48 GMT
#300
Nvm I went back to check your filter it's because it gives more discussion.
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