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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 21:01 GMT
#375
Then who do you want to lynch, other than Kelsier (assuming you still want to lynch him)?
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 21:10 GMT
#379
What do you think about prplhz?
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 22:47 GMT
#399
Who said anything about blue hunting? If you don't see blue out of the three posts I pointed out, you aren't reading closely enough. And if TL has changed so much that being nice is cause for mistrust, then that's just sad.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 22:47 GMT
#401
On September 12 2018 07:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 23:31 Qatol wrote:
1. They might have figured out that Koshi was blue. He kinda gave it away with this post:
On September 08 2018 00:25 Koshi wrote:
On September 08 2018 00:17 Sergiovan wrote:
And Time is finally on my side, I get to be here for a bit.

I don’t know anyone particularly well so if any of you can add meta reads to what I’m seeing I would appreciate the help. My meta knowledge is, at best, deeply outdated.

I believe that Koshi is the best lynch of the people who have posted this far. His most recent post shows that he is aware of how he appears and is nervous about it and is trying to fit in to the town atmosphere.

Kaley seems most town to me, I like his image post. It shows a carefree mindset which I believe is hard to fake as scum.

Koshi, Vivax and Kaley - the three of you have all posted in the past hour so I assume you are still here. Koshi please respond to my Kaley read. Kaley please respond to my Koshi read. Vivax please respond to both.


I am sorry that I appear to you like that. Please dont lynch me. You look very town.

Specifically, he was unnaturally nervous about being lynched day 1. This screams blue.

He didn't "give it away" since ... he wasn't blue! Odd choice of words I think. Unless you come frm the perspective of being sure that Koshi would flip blue.

Uhhh....
On September 10 2018 08:00 kitaman27 wrote:
[center]Day 2


Koshi the Town Vigilante has been killed.
Holyflare the Vanilla Town has been killed.



It is now day 2. You have 48 hours to vote for your preferred lynch. The deadline is Tuesday, Sep 11 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . Voting is mandatory and must be done in the voting thread.

???
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 22:50 GMT
#403
Or because I was reading the thread? I still don't see how you don't see it. This isn't rocket science.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 22:51 GMT
#404
Is anyone else active right now? I'm still not comfortable lynching damdred. I still think this is basically a policy lynch and the math isn't in support of it.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 22:59 GMT
#412
On September 12 2018 07:56 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 07:51 Qatol wrote:
Is anyone else active right now? I'm still not comfortable lynching damdred. I still think this is basically a policy lynch and the math isn't in support of it.

What math?

A random lynch of someone who has posted no relevant content. You never explained why this is anything other than that, so I am forced to assume that damdred is being policy lynched for inactivity.

As far as I can tell, at best, you have a 3 in 10 chance of hitting mafia, unless I'm missing something.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 23:00 GMT
#415
On September 12 2018 07:57 Rels wrote:
you even said something like "Koshi doesn't look lik someone that is hard to lynch" at some point right ? Why did you think that ?

I didn't say that. Find the post and I'll explain my thought process.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 23:03 GMT
#418
On September 12 2018 08:00 Rels wrote:
we can kill a lot of people that didn't vote yesterday

On August 20 2018 00:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Activity:
You are expected to keep up with the thread and participate in discussion daily. If for some reason you anticipate that you will not be available for a period longer than 24 hours, please notify a host ahead of time.

I will be looking for at least 3 posts per cycle, so 1 post every 24 hours. Players will not be removed from the game for activity or failure to vote, but may face post game punishment.

(Underline added)
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 11 2018 23:04 GMT
#420
I have to go, but I'll be back in about an hour. I am happy to respond to any questions you leave, Rels
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 00:12 GMT
#427
On September 12 2018 08:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 08:00 Qatol wrote:
On September 12 2018 07:57 Rels wrote:
you even said something like "Koshi doesn't look lik someone that is hard to lynch" at some point right ? Why did you think that ?

I didn't say that. Find the post and I'll explain my thought process.

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 00:24 Qatol wrote:
On September 11 2018 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
dear god, did Koshi actually hint being blue?

I was ~90% sure he was from post #76 (though not which role). He didn't seem the type to frequently get lynched day 1, which would be the only other reason I could see for him to get that nervous about getting lynched that early.


What about it? I said Koshi is unlikely to be lynched day 1, as in unlikely to be repeatedly lynched early for policy/poor play/whatever (which would be the other reason I could see him being nervous). That is basically the opposite of "Koshi doesn't look like someone that is hard to lynch."
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 00:16 GMT
#428
On another note, I just thought I'd point out that, assuming the night kill goes through, town is at mylo, which, in a game without no lynches, is lylo (5 town vs. 3 mafia). It's a little better if RoL is mafia and continues not to vote, but if he's town, a mislynch means we lose. If you are town, please think things through before you vote, and we are going to need to vote overwhelmingly.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 00:25 GMT
#429
On September 12 2018 08:07 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i somehow thought this is an open setup. I havent read the op for a week except for now.

I am never lynching vivax now anyways, it is way more likely he was just roleblocked because he wasnt exactly under heavy fire when he claimed roleblocked.

kinda cheesy, but almost lock town right there for that. As far as I know rayn don't dumbtell as scum

Then why did he provide the hammer vote on an absolutely horrible damdred lynch? As in, if he did not vote damdred, then damdred would not have been lynched (it would have been vivax). As I have been pointing out, damdred had exactly 1 post during the game. This was a mafia-endorsed "policy lynch." I say endorsed because it was a majority vote of 3, and a single vote switch could and did change the result. Isn't rayn supposed to be the best player left in this game? That vote is making me at least reconsider him.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 00:38 GMT
#430
On September 12 2018 07:55 Rels wrote:
you got lucky with your unlikely assumption being right
or maybe you really caught him with his posts asking for advice during the night
but that post is not a blueslip, and no VT would think it is

Please take a step back and think things through. It doesn't matter if I got lucky or not. We were speculating on reasons for why Koshi got hit. I mentioned that I think that post painted him as blue. Again, it doesn't matter if that was a blueslip or not to you. To me, it was one. Explain to me why me mentioning that makes me mafia. Not to dive too deeply into wifom, but what would mafia say in that situation? Why would mafia volunteer that information?

Again, we are probably at lylo. If we are unable to coordinate town votes on a mafia, we lose.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 20:30 GMT
#437
On September 13 2018 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 09:25 Qatol wrote:
On September 12 2018 08:07 Rels wrote:
On September 12 2018 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i somehow thought this is an open setup. I havent read the op for a week except for now.

I am never lynching vivax now anyways, it is way more likely he was just roleblocked because he wasnt exactly under heavy fire when he claimed roleblocked.

kinda cheesy, but almost lock town right there for that. As far as I know rayn don't dumbtell as scum

Then why did he provide the hammer vote on an absolutely horrible damdred lynch? As in, if he did not vote damdred, then damdred would not have been lynched (it would have been vivax). As I have been pointing out, damdred had exactly 1 post during the game. This was a mafia-endorsed "policy lynch." I say endorsed because it was a majority vote of 3, and a single vote switch could and did change the result. Isn't rayn supposed to be the best player left in this game? That vote is making me at least reconsider him.

What the....?
idk which is worse, this post here or the fact that noone who has posted after this has had nothing to say about this.

What is so surprising about wanting to reevaluate you? You jumped onto the bandwagon of a player with exactly 1 post in the game and with a nonexistent argument for lynching him. On top of that, it was done at a time when a mislynch most likely puts us at lylo. At the very least, I think an explanation is in order.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 20:44 GMT
#441
I can't answer those questions without knowing how you reached the assumptions that underly them.

Why did you think damdred had a "decent chance of flipping mafia"? Again, the entire argument against him was "he said he would come back but he didn't." What about that did you find to be so persuasive?

Why do you have a townread on Vivax?
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 20:49 GMT
#443
On September 13 2018 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i literally came here with the time i had, saw that there was no interest in my preferred lynch (Kelsier), said i didn't want to lynch the other two of the three wagons (which i had already said even before they were actual wagons), and decided to vote for a the last possible option.

Like it's already fucking bullshit how the votes have gone all game because in a game with 3 mafia (even if RoL is mafia in this game) you are never ever gonna lynch mafia with 3 votes unless mafia is just garbage, let alone with 2 votes. Leaving my vote on Kelsier was not an option. Because i want to even have a chance of lynching mafia and in my opinion voting for Damdred was the best chance out of those three.

This is a point I was hoping you would make.

However, I'd still like to hear why you thought damdred was the best choice or why vivax is so town to you. Judging from posts other people have been making, you're supposed to be the best scumhunter left. On top of that, your posts have been relatively reasoned, so I'm wondering why you jumped onto a train with such a weak case.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 20:56 GMT
#448
On September 13 2018 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Have you even read anything i have written in this game?

Absolutely. From what I can tell, you decided vivax is confirmed town based entirely on him claiming to have been roleblocked. Is there anything else? You were at this point before that:
On September 08 2018 04:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck, i try to make this very simple.
If Kaley is a smurf, she is always mafia, because the vote on me is either garbage, or she is intentionally doing nothing.

And you townread her for that. That's my problem with you Vivax.

I understand Koshi had a townread on Vivax. It was also a day 1 only read. Plus, after you commented on that, you said this:
[QUOTE]On September 09 2018 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 09 2018 20:51 Vivax wrote:
Kaley wasn't the worst of lynches considering that his raps would have remained his only contributions for the rest of the game. But I'm wary of anyone who tried to argue that the above wasn't the only reason.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Very easy argument to make since he flipped town, and idgaf how vary you will be of me for the rest of the game because if you are not saying what i was just above then i disagree with you.[/QUOTE
I'm surprised town!rayn would be so quick to change his mind, unless there's something I am missing.

As far as damdred goes, please explain more thoroughly, because I simply don't understand. Why damdred over rels?
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 20:59 GMT
#449
Argh again. EBWOP:
On September 13 2018 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Have you even read anything i have written in this game?

Absolutely. From what I can tell, you decided vivax is confirmed town based entirely on him claiming to have been roleblocked. Is there anything else? You were at this point before that:
On September 08 2018 04:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck, i try to make this very simple.
If Kaley is a smurf, she is always mafia, because the vote on me is either garbage, or she is intentionally doing nothing.

And you townread her for that. That's my problem with you Vivax.

I understand Koshi had a townread on Vivax. It was also a day 1 only read. Plus, after you commented on that, you said this:
On September 09 2018 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2018 20:51 Vivax wrote:
Kaley wasn't the worst of lynches considering that his raps would have remained his only contributions for the rest of the game. But I'm wary of anyone who tried to argue that the above wasn't the only reason.

I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Very easy argument to make since he flipped town, and idgaf how vary you will be of me for the rest of the game because if you are not saying what i was just above then i disagree with you.

I'm surprised town!rayn would be so quick to change his mind, unless there's something I am missing.

As far as damdred goes, please explain more thoroughly, because I simply don't understand. Why damdred over rels?
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 12 2018 21:11 GMT
#456
Okay, let me see if I'm understanding everything right regarding your position on Vivax.

1. Koshi's support of him means something to you.

2. You also saw him claim roleblock despite not being under too much pressure (I happen to disagree, considering I had already accused him, Kelsier was leaning that direction, and sergio hadn't backed off on him, but that isn't the point). You believe this claim to have been genuine because of the following logic. Because Koshi's vigi shot went through, Koshi obviously wasn't roleblocked. Nobody else has claimed to have been roleblocked. That means that, assuming there was a roleblock, it would have to have gone on either HF or Vivax.

Is there anything he has said, other than the roleblock claim, that makes you think he's town?
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