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On June 28 2018 08:22 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:21 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 08:19 CopCake wrote: Literally super bad and stupid end of the day Scummy "told you so" kind of post when you didn't even do anything. Ahahahahahahha what I didnt do? My vote was on tick tock and you did everything to save him, even following a dummy train that started out of nowhere.
Yeah and he's still obviously town. So you can fuck off back to the drawing board with your reads now TT/ Calix isn't on the table as a "mafia team".
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On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote: I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.
With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.
That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.
Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.
I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.
I'll accept this as a rationale for your EOD.
Doesn't hurt that you agree with me a lot when it comes to reads. I'm not sure about CopCake but it's undeniable that she made a fair few terrible posts near EOD. Might need to reread her.
I would add Mocsta to the list but we'll see what he does when he's properly caught up.
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I don't want Vivax dead because I think he's turning into a beautiful butterfly.
And if you look past his posting style, his content's been alright.
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On June 28 2018 08:47 Mocsta wrote: ahh conversion, how do i keep forgetting about him
hmm, HF, what do you think of his vote switch?
Conversion's EOD goes something like this:
- Notes TT isn't voting to save himself - Wants to CFD onto HF - Says TT isn't town here:
On June 28 2018 07:52 Conversion wrote: Otherwise I'm sticking to TT. No way town!TT doesn't vote Shock here after scumreading him and having a chance to get him lynched over himself. - Says HF is mafia for wanting to lynch into AFKs here:
On June 28 2018 07:53 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:52 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 07:51 Conversion wrote: I think we have a good shot of lynching HF. Me+ Vivax + Calix, TT if he joins in.
Choo choo? And why am I mafia exactly? Because you randomly try to divert a lynch onto an AFKer who is irrelevant? also if this is a no modkill game I'm just AFKing until end game - Says he'll listen to me (implying he'll finally switch to ShoCkeyy?) - Then trashes the BF wagon as terrible
The main thing to note here is that he didn't change his vote to ShoCkeyy until 23:59 when he had been around in the thread for much longer (although the posts I refer to here were all made about 10 minutes before EOD).
Additionally I am not sure why he changed his vote when BF was getting votes by saying 'I'll listen to Calix' especially since I had been trying to convince Conversion well beforehand and I had even said I was going to vote for Boxerfred purely to save TT.
So an explanation of his thought process here would be helpful.
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On June 28 2018 09:11 CopCake wrote:I want to point out something, and I hope someone smart, educated and with patience will read. - I got told that TT was extremely frustrated and that is why he called me sheep sheep rayn hubby, that he was trying to do everything to save himself. - Then he is all “I am sorry cake I will peace out I am sorry - Calix did everything to save him, HF was like if TT dies he deserves it because he is not switching votes - Then BF is rip, get told that TT is town for not voting himself by HF - Regfan then comes and says that TT voted for someone else to vote himself, which the whole case of HF doesnt work anymore - HF calls regfan mafia for this and says TT would not know if he saved himself. He voted at the last minute, 59 seconds before end of the day, a whole minute, please he was lurking forever doing nothing  Rip in peppers but no one will listen to me if anyone find tjis super odd
So what is your conclusion? That TT, Calix and HF are the mafia team?
Because if so, ahahahahaha.
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PSA: If you're going to preach about toxicity, could you at least make it entertaining? Thanks.
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On June 28 2018 10:15 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote: Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content. It's hard to talk to you when you keep calling me scum just because I switched my read on Calix and defended her. You didn't have an issue with that stance when we first talked about it, but now it's all that matter's to you, AND you wont even bother to check that it wasn't "out of nowhere"
What do you mean with CopCake "not having an issue with that stance"? It looks like she called you out right away for that even if she didn't call you mafia for it until later. I don't see how that's notable.
Her lack of fact-checking is a bit of a piss-take though, can agree ^^
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On June 28 2018 10:37 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:24 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 10:15 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote: Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content. It's hard to talk to you when you keep calling me scum just because I switched my read on Calix and defended her. You didn't have an issue with that stance when we first talked about it, but now it's all that matter's to you, AND you wont even bother to check that it wasn't "out of nowhere" What do you mean with CopCake "not having an issue with that stance"? It looks like she called you out right away for that even if she didn't call you mafia for it until later. I don't see how that's notable. Her lack of fact-checking is a bit of a piss-take though, can agree ^^ Maybe I wasn't in the thread long enough as I was falling asleep around that time, but I recall having a back and forth with her and her responses were on the order of "are you two dating" "then why should I care" "oh you see her as a smart player, I see". Never anything about "why the sudden switch?"
She asked "why do you suddenly defend Calix" first.
Also don't lie, we are totally dating.
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On June 28 2018 10:46 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:39 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 10:37 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 10:24 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 10:15 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote: Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content. It's hard to talk to you when you keep calling me scum just because I switched my read on Calix and defended her. You didn't have an issue with that stance when we first talked about it, but now it's all that matter's to you, AND you wont even bother to check that it wasn't "out of nowhere" What do you mean with CopCake "not having an issue with that stance"? It looks like she called you out right away for that even if she didn't call you mafia for it until later. I don't see how that's notable. Her lack of fact-checking is a bit of a piss-take though, can agree ^^ Maybe I wasn't in the thread long enough as I was falling asleep around that time, but I recall having a back and forth with her and her responses were on the order of "are you two dating" "then why should I care" "oh you see her as a smart player, I see". Never anything about "why the sudden switch?" She asked "why do you suddenly defend Calix" first. Also don't lie, we are totally dating. I thought we were still in the "lying about it to ourselves" phase  And didn't I respond to Cake that I was starting to see more towny things, and felt like you were a bad D1 lynch even if i had doubts, thus wanted to stear people away from lynching you? I'm really starting to wonder if maybe I'm just imagining posting some stuff.
Nah, out and proud now 
I recall you making that post.
She's done that a lot with the "ignoring posts from people" thing though. I might actually have to check past games and see if this is something she does a lot. I don't want to give her a pass for weird posts or logic but I'm not sure how much of it is AI. Like some of the stuff she says makes no sense to me but it also isn't stuff that pushes mafia agenda very well if at all.
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On June 28 2018 11:00 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:52 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 10:42 CopCake wrote: And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk. Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that. I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did. I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia. Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town. You called me a sheep, me who was the first person who jumped to deffend you against HF 😑 Maybe I am a super bad player as Calix say but to ME: - You cant change reads super easily, you pushed someone and suddenly you want to change? Something like what Mocca did. I agreed with you that Mocca’s reads were SUPER BAD but if something got me more was your siper way to deffend Calix and your excuse was “because she is a good player like HF”
I don't think you're "super bad" just that some of your arguments were bad. That's not attacking you personally.
TT's making the argument that since I am a Good Player [TM] that leaving me alive on D1 is better because I am more likely to show that I am town on future days. Therefore that made me a poor lynch candidate for D1.
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On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote: You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.
Nah, she said both 
You're probably right though. I'm not really feeling the mafia vibes from anyone so it's just a matter of waiting for the less-townie people to get online and react.
In the meantime, I'm going to bed.
As an aside, I start having longer work shifts from tomorrow so when I drop off and can't spam my way to a 9-page filter every cycle, don't be surprised. I will say this about 3505437609 times just so people get the message ^^
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On June 28 2018 11:33 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote: You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page. It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath. However yea, breaks are good. Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it... I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that. Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town. Yea I agree, Vivax looks pretty townie to me here. He's been a bit off the walls, but not by a huge margine. I glanced over a bit of his filter at some point and it looks a lot more like Vivax trying to figuer out a world that makes sense to him that trying to see what shit-flinging would stick. Especially Vivax's eod, he pushed for who he wanted lynched, and defended people he thought were town. He was pretty invovled and made some good points. Actually looking back over a bit of his filter, he looks really towny from my PoV kus he had made some posts earlier about suspecting I could be mafia, so I know he could have easily gotten me lynched. Given how active I am being this game, I can't imagine mafia being that willing to save me to help get BF lynched.
Imagine that, a game where the sentence "Tictock is contributing more than X player" can be said
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On June 28 2018 22:19 Vivax wrote: The only TR he could have had was shockey, but he had just two votes iirc.
Rayn came in and asked "why does ShoCkeyy have votes?"
At the time, ShoCkeyy had three votes.
One vote was me (his top scum-read).
One vote was Vivax (another one of rayn's scum-reads).
The third vote was Tictock.
Therefore it doesn't make sense for him to ask that question. Because the obvious answer from rayn's point of view is that mafia are trying to mislynch ShoCkeyy.
When I asked him this, rayn just called me "super scummy" and never answered the question.
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On June 28 2018 22:47 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 28 2018 04:22 Holyflare wrote: Keep this on the down low and don't tell rayn but he might be mafia. who me or tt? youre wrong on both.  Here called TT town So yeah, TT was never a mafia read on rayn His focus was on Calix, single tunneled but took a jump of faith in hF with TT because Calix wasnt getting lynched.
100% incorrect.
Rayn voted for TT when I still had 4 votes, thus putting TT and I at 3 votes each. If he hadn't swapped, I would have been in the lead.
You're not even looking at the evidence when it comes to your rayn defense, lol.
On June 28 2018 04:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count ShoCkeyy[3]:Calix,Ticktock,Vivax Regfan Calix[4]:Mocsta,raynpelikoneet,Koshi,CopCake TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan Ticktock[3]:ShoCkeyy,Holyflare,Conversion Vivax boxerfred[1]:boxerfred Vivax[1]:Regfan Holyflare, Calix Calix is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
On June 28 2018 04:32 Holyflare wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: boxerfred
On June 28 2018 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: #unvote ##vote tictock
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On June 28 2018 22:54 CopCake wrote: Oops pressed post before writing in the quote
Nice try Calix but the flow of rayn progression is clear and townie.
Oohhhhh!!!
And the thing discussed here was his post “town will get lynched anyways or it seems” something like that and it was refering to shockey and TT ^^
I made my post to fact-check your point about rayn switching to TT "because Calix wasn't getting lynched" when the opposite happened, not to comment on 'rayn progression'.
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On June 28 2018 22:57 Mocsta wrote: Ahh 2 babez
Time to mud wrestle
Yes im such a sexist pig and luvin it
Referring to yourself as a babe might be a stretch there, luv ^^
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On June 28 2018 23:02 CopCake wrote:Nah You were saying Rayn is mafia because he said “town will end lynched  “ and even made a case ^^ that his three suspects were already voting shokey (vivax,calix,tt) amd his other 2 too scum were also getting lynched (calix,tt) But this doesnt work because rayn never had :D TT as mafia, even confronted HF for this. Woooooooo!!!!!
I wasn't the person who made that post but this is clearly not something you will understand.
Your arrogance + your lack of reading comprehension + how you repeat everything you say three times with zero regard for what anyone else says makes talking to you a highly unpleasant experience and I resent having to do it to figure out your alignment.
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On June 28 2018 23:03 Vivax wrote: my current wild guess is cop rayn shockeyy
I feel better about you, at least. I filter-dived you and concluded your progressions seem natural on the whole.
The questions I have are:
a) What prompted you to drop all your scum-reads halfway through D1?
b) What exactly made you change your mind on HF from having him as potential mafia to town?
Your stated reasoning (I'm sort of feeling good about HF as I don't believe he's just going to stay on boxer. I can't get rid of the feeling he's just sort of derping around tho.") doesn't sound like stuff you town-read people for at all.
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On June 28 2018 23:09 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 22:58 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 22:57 Mocsta wrote: Ahh 2 babez
Time to mud wrestle
Yes im such a sexist pig and luvin it Referring to yourself as a babe might be a stretch there, luv ^^ ohh your a dude? 4 some reason i thought otherwise??
I was taking the piss out of you, albeit poorly P: I assure you, I am of the female persuasion.
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On June 28 2018 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like uh... TT you have to be mafia. I am gonna trust and sheep HF here. #unvote ##vote tictock
Why did that post make him want to vote TT so much over his 100% scum-read of me?
Obviously a question rayn can only answer but still. It's not clear what he's thinking exactly.
Rayn does later agree with HF that something TT said was scummy but that TT post was made AFTER the vote so that can't be the reason he used at the time.
Then he changes his mind anyway because "TT has said very clearly who he scumreads" so who the fuck knows.
I maintain that rayn was under the influence for EOD.
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