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On June 28 2018 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Gemma i dont want to engage because she wants to engage me but when i do she doesnt. You should tell her its bad. I have zero desire to engage with you for the rest of the game after the way you treated Regfan.
-G
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I'm going to bed. Regfan will hopefully be up before deadline to check in quickly and move our vote if it needs moving. Please don't lynch Calix.
Just quickly, the main thing I mentioned to Regfan re: TT when he asked me to sell him on that scumread was the way that his scumreads progressed, his worlds started to become noticeably incongruent around the time he started backing off Calix. I also don't really like the way he's been catching up recently, making more personal type appeal posts to people that don't actually have anything to do with his reads or solving the game. He's probably my strongest scumread even if I don't want to lynch him today (for reasons I already went over). Would really like to see more from him and be able to interact with him real-time some to solidify my read there.
We both think the way Vivax treated TT in #539 was slimy, he's the kind of player that I know I will be able to get a solid read on at some point in the game based on some reaction from him or something impulsive he does in the moment somewhere, and there are certain things from him tonally that make me shy away from super scumreading him, but he hasn't done anything to make me really want to pull him out of the lynch pool today. I only weakly scumread him and feel meh about lynching him but he's not a bad lynch.
Shock's thread entrance was really icky and I dislike the things that he has been focusing on. I don't think his meta self-defense means anything for his alignment and I don't really like the way he's been making big-ish posts at the end of the dayphase here but not really interacting with anyone about reads or show me that he's actively solving the game in a meaningful way. Feel mildly annoyed that people don't want to lynch him but I don't feel strongly enough about killing him to force the issue.
Koshi just hasn't done anything except sheep rayn and when I think there's a pretty high chance of at least 1 mafia in the inactives I can find exactly 0 reasons not to lynch him other than how little information it will give us.
Lynch preference is Shock>Koshi>Vivax, would vote in Conversion/TT to secure a lynch that isn't Calix.
-G
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On June 28 2018 01:34 Vivax wrote: Mocsta is totally mafia btw ...
No.
I actually want to lynch you now.
-G
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On June 28 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:05 Regfan wrote:On June 28 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote: Can we get some kind of paraphrasing of your conversations together and the medium through which you communicated each reg/gemma? Discord. And no, I really can't be bothered. I'm too tired and worn out by this shitty game. You can read our filter if you want to know what our reads are, our chats are just those in short form. If you can't already tell that we're town then getting a paraphrase of our talks together isn't going to help you. -G I also don't like this. It would quite succinctly tie up your alignment for me if you could do it. It really shouldn't be hard either because you just have a history log on discord right? Why is the game shitty when you seem to have narrowed a quite substantial town list down? Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.
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On June 28 2018 02:02 Holyflare wrote: I don't really understand what rayn did to annoy him at all to be honest. Your playstyle is good but it's just the fact you're a hydra that people are "annoyed" about (I'm pretty sure only mocsta or rayn have even commented on this) since you're not playing like a hydra, you are just two players posting from one account. If quoting timestamps weren't illegal, then I would be more than happy to just c/p for you. We have been playing like hydra and I don't get your insistence that we haven't. We disagree on ONE read, which is TT. What are you even talking about? Literally all of the reads I've talked about over the past few hours have either been things that we've talked about together, or things that Reg has given me charge over or asked me to talk about.
-G
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On June 27 2018 22:39 CopCake wrote: And I dont like regfan being all “oh but i havent played you know this rayn”
Sounds like appeal to emotion.
Everyone is busy.
Everyone has a life.
Me right now is answering from a gym so yeah. You shouldn't have touched this, at all, with a ten foot pole, CopCake.
Anyway, I'm upset about this, and I don't want to talk about it because it's not helpful.
I'm overdue for sleep anyway.
-G
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On June 28 2018 02:11 Conversion wrote: I don’t understand why I’m considered toxic for calling you, Regfan/Gemma, out for coming to the conclusion of being “okay” with a lynch when there are clear, STRONG scumreads from your other posts? Yeah, I could have packed it up nicer, but I attacked your stance and words. It’s BS to think that town would be “okay” with a lynch instead of pushing for their clear scum reads, especially one (two?) who has the presence of mind to be able to talk through and actively drive discussion.
You got mad at me because I didn’t “address” any of your other glaring concerns because I didn’t disagree with anything else but that. The fact that you’re still carrying on with a “I’ll lynch a null read over my town Calix read” instead of convincing others on your stronger scum reads does not give you town credibilty in my eyes. None whatsoever. I didn't call you toxic. Who are you even talking to? I'm voting Vivax, I've never tried to lynch you at any point in this game. And I didn't get mad at you, btw.
-G
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Just woke up, more than 20 pages behind and need to be getting ready for work but know deadline is very very soon.
Votecount has changed drastically since when I went to bed.
Can someone make a two line post on why it's mostly moved away from Vivax etc and who I should vote/why please.
- R
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Oh jesus, BF & TSM still haven't made a single post; have we got some sort of confirmation if they get modkilled here?
- R
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On June 28 2018 07:45 Calix wrote:Wasn't a particular reason it moved away from Vivax aside from people preferring TT/ myself/ ShoCkeyy.
But vote ShoCkeyy plz.
If you want a case, just skim his filter. I don't even think it needs an explanation.
Going to try and read Shockey now, in a weird spot where I don't think Shocky/Vivax are partners and have a ~decent~ strength scum read on Vivax here so blah, especially since I've got a message from Gemma saying if I wake up and there's a chance to lynch TT I should since she thinks he's mafia. God fucking damn it.
Also never worth lynching BF & TSM here, if they're town, we learn nothing, if they're scum, we still learn almost nothing given there'll be no interaction analysis to do. Leave them to the mod, deal with them tomorrow if they're not modkilled.
- R
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Anyone up for a CFD on Vivax here?
- R
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Lynching a 0 poster does not give us information.
If there's modkills in the game, it's taking away one shot of us hitting scum that we could use better.
If there's not modkills then we can make sure to overly focus on the slot tomorrow.
Aiming at BF or TSM here doesn't make sense, regardless of their alignment.
- R
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Dumbest fucking lynch I've ever seen and completely done with this game, particularly since a bunch of people on it are my stronger town reads and one being someone I devoted a fair bit of time actually trying to save.
Maybe Gemma will feel otherwise and keep playing or ideally we just die tonight but consider me done.
-R
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HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.
Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.
TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.
There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.
Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.
Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.
Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.
Outtahere
-R
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On June 28 2018 09:17 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:50 Regfan wrote:I'm going to bed. Regfan will hopefully be up before deadline to check in quickly and move our vote if it needs moving. Please don't lynch Calix. Just quickly, the main thing I mentioned to Regfan re: TT when he asked me to sell him on that scumread was the way that his scumreads progressed, his worlds started to become noticeably incongruent around the time he started backing off Calix. I also don't really like the way he's been catching up recently, making more personal type appeal posts to people that don't actually have anything to do with his reads or solving the game. He's probably my strongest scumread even if I don't want to lynch him today (for reasons I already went over). Would really like to see more from him and be able to interact with him real-time some to solidify my read there. We both think the way Vivax treated TT in #539 was slimy, he's the kind of player that I know I will be able to get a solid read on at some point in the game based on some reaction from him or something impulsive he does in the moment somewhere, and there are certain things from him tonally that make me shy away from super scumreading him, but he hasn't done anything to make me really want to pull him out of the lynch pool today. I only weakly scumread him and feel meh about lynching him but he's not a bad lynch. Shock's thread entrance was really icky and I dislike the things that he has been focusing on. I don't think his meta self-defense means anything for his alignment and I don't really like the way he's been making big-ish posts at the end of the dayphase here but not really interacting with anyone about reads or show me that he's actively solving the game in a meaningful way. Feel mildly annoyed that people don't want to lynch him but I don't feel strongly enough about killing him to force the issue. Koshi just hasn't done anything except sheep rayn and when I think there's a pretty high chance of at least 1 mafia in the inactives I can find exactly 0 reasons not to lynch him other than how little information it will give us. Lynch preference is Shock>Koshi>Vivax, would vote in Conversion/TT to secure a lynch that isn't Calix. -G I know this is a post from Gemma but notice how it says here "we both think". This clearly means they talked or "talked" about vivax's treatment of ticktock and found it slimy. Reg hadn't been to the thread for ages so this should be about the last thing he remembers them talking about but it is never a factor. Are you fucking kidding me.
-G
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This site is completely unbearable. I'm glad I got to roll a town hydra with Regfan but I sincerely regret ever stepping foot in this place.
Bye, enjoy whatever the fuck this game is.
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As done as I am with this game and site, I actually find the idea of any of you talking about our alignment while we flake unbearable, so, here's a modkill:
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM yeah http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=20#381 Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM not sure how up to date you are on the thread Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM i don't get how mafia can talk that way Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM but i've dumped a LOT of analysis lately Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM in that situation ok i'm at page 22 or so Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM ah, page 25 is me walling nonstop Gemma - Yesterday at 9:02 PM goodie Regfan - Yesterday at 9:02 PM really like that calix post that you linked also feel free to correct me if you disagree but i kind of feel like this second half of d1 has felt even more dead than the first half and i can easily see that being the case if it's cake/calix walling each other and scum reading each other and they're t/t here and scum just standing back Gemma - Yesterday at 9:04 PM i mean i think tt is mafia and pulled back on scumreading calix at at point where it looked like he was going to be lynched so yes i think that's the world we're in Regfan - Yesterday at 9:04 PM i need to talk with rayn in real time badly if he's town here he's likely to decide the lynch he's got koshi and cake as his 2nd & 3rd voters imo Gemma - Yesterday at 9:05 PM yeah we need to talk to mocsta too Regfan - Yesterday at 9:07 PM hum Gemma - Yesterday at 9:07 PM he's reading calix for a lot of stuff that doesn't mean anything Regfan - Yesterday at 9:07 PM oh, yeah i'm planning on dropping a post on calix/cake as a duo-post and then doing a separate post re; rayns & moscatos cases on calix is next on my list after that i've just got a rayn post/vivax post and to talk with you and i'm fully up to date Gemma - Yesterday at 9:10 PM ok i'm not sure if i'm doing well enough to post anything but i'll try Regfan - Yesterday at 9:12 PM np just try and catch up and read my posts i'm happy to be the one making the posts in the thread (i have the night free) but want you to be up to date with where my heads at so we can have a proper convo Gemma - Yesterday at 9:19 PM i'm caught up Regfan - Yesterday at 9:20 PM agree HF is VERY town? i went over calix, dude is obvtown imo Gemma - Yesterday at 9:21 PM yes how confident are you on calix? Regfan - Yesterday at 9:22 PM mocsta>hf=calix huge gap, everyone else Gemma - Yesterday at 9:23 PM so let's save him? Regfan - Yesterday at 9:23 PM yeah, i'm going over cakes case on him atm Gemma - Yesterday at 9:23 PM k Regfan - Yesterday at 9:23 PM let me focus on that part? and you focus on who we're actually lynching
-G
Mocsta, get out of here, you're too nice for this site. Calix, I really like you, you remind me of a good friend of mine from the site where I normally play, you should also never play here again. I really think you're dead wrong on TT. Never ever ever ever ever lynch like that again, please.
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On June 28 2018 01:50 Regfan wrote:I'm going to bed. Regfan will hopefully be up before deadline to check in quickly and move our vote if it needs moving. Please don't lynch Calix. Just quickly, the main thing I mentioned to Regfan re: TT when he asked me to sell him on that scumread was the way that his scumreads progressed, his worlds started to become noticeably incongruent around the time he started backing off Calix. I also don't really like the way he's been catching up recently, making more personal type appeal posts to people that don't actually have anything to do with his reads or solving the game. He's probably my strongest scumread even if I don't want to lynch him today (for reasons I already went over). Would really like to see more from him and be able to interact with him real-time some to solidify my read there. We both think the way Vivax treated TT in #539 was slimy, he's the kind of player that I know I will be able to get a solid read on at some point in the game based on some reaction from him or something impulsive he does in the moment somewhere, and there are certain things from him tonally that make me shy away from super scumreading him, but he hasn't done anything to make me really want to pull him out of the lynch pool today. I only weakly scumread him and feel meh about lynching him but he's not a bad lynch. Shock's thread entrance was really icky and I dislike the things that he has been focusing on. I don't think his meta self-defense means anything for his alignment and I don't really like the way he's been making big-ish posts at the end of the dayphase here but not really interacting with anyone about reads or show me that he's actively solving the game in a meaningful way. Feel mildly annoyed that people don't want to lynch him but I don't feel strongly enough about killing him to force the issue. Koshi just hasn't done anything except sheep rayn and when I think there's a pretty high chance of at least 1 mafia in the inactives I can find exactly 0 reasons not to lynch him other than how little information it will give us. Lynch preference is Shock>Koshi>Vivax, would vote in Conversion/TT to secure a lynch that isn't Calix. -G
On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote: HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.
Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.
TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.
There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.
Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.
Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.
Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.
Outtahere
-R
Mocsta, please please please please please please leave this site and never ever come back. I'm begging you, for your own good. Please don't stay and "learn" from these people.
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