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On June 26 2018 22:24 Vivax wrote:
Scary amount of nonsense that I had to read so far. Am I the only one to have googled that wall of text post and found it on several other sites after conversion said that it's copypasta? It's like rayn went completely ham over the wording of something that wasn't even generated by the poster which in turn generated a ton of discussion that is barely bearable to read cause it feels like a pointless thing to discuss to me.
Yes you were the only one who wasted their time on this.
You read "scary amounts of nonsense" (which I assume means you are caught up) and this was the only thing worth talking about in your mind?
Seeing that you also threw down a vote on Cake for next to nothing shortly after this I'll just add you to the list.
Regfan/Calix/Vivax
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On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said.
Expand on this plz.
Most of his posts are arbitrarily saying to lynch you.
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On June 27 2018 00:20 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:14 Mocsta wrote:On June 27 2018 00:12 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.
Not sure this is AI, but this is your recollection of me based on that bastard game where You, me, and DF got our own QT and I convinced myself you were mafia based off the ring nonsense the hosts threw at us? I'm just not sure I've ever seen anyone describe my playstyle like this before. ... Heh, it just now strikes me that we are both referring to this as "not sure if AI", lol. yes. That one game. I was confirmed town and you refused to change ya view kn the world It stuck with me lol I will filter dive you on d2 as you arent in my d1 pool Wait, I'm confused. Wasn't that Grackaroni in the QT chat with DF and TT? Mocsta wasn't even in that game.
Wait... wow, is my memory that bad? I seriously don't remember now...
What even is real? Is this...now?
+ Show Spoiler +Shoutout to any Westworld Fans, who got the reference!
and sorry for useless post
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On June 27 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:
I remember vividly HF complaining in a chat we had that the new player batch tended to say "x is scummy y is townie" without explaining why.
Yet now he does it himself and everyone around him as well. I explain pretty much every reason for a post being scummy or townie, as simple as the reasons may be.
Basically none of you seem to give a shit about the though process behind my posts. You just call them scummy or townie as it suits your needs.
HF does that a lot imo, we could start calling him HypocriticalFlare.
Also, Vivax townie, kus I sorta agree with this post.
+ Show Spoiler +Last line should obv be a joke, but I know ppl around here.
On a serious note, I think you did basically this with your Cake vote. You said she is "thinking about perception of own alignment" but you don't really explain why this is scummy. I mean you do later on, but you skipped over the fact that Town is also going to have a perception about how people read them.
After all many people around here say that town's top goal isn't to find mafia, it's to show that they are Town and avoid getting lynched.
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On June 27 2018 00:45 Calix wrote:
I also hate your last line and not because it's mafia-indicative but because it means that yet ANOTHER person is not willing to work with me -___-
Don't take it as that, I'm just going gung-ho with my initial reads this game rather than being a tad passive in the early stages.
Always open to re-evaluation.
As such, while nothing has stood out to me as clearly Town!Calix I no longer think you are lock scum. Though it's just me being swayed by tone more than anything specific really.
I think I am going with the strategy of building a solid group of people I think are town and sorting out the Mafia from the remainder this phase.
Right now I think my town list is Rayn, Cake, Mocsta, and I'm probably going to add HF and Conversion but am less sure about them atm (though I'm pretty unlikely to want to lynch them today regardless).
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On June 27 2018 02:14 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont want to have anything to do with this game anymore.
Calix is mafia.
Vivax is mafia.
Maybe Regfan is mafia, idk. Could be boxerfred, Slendy. Maybe 3% Holyflare.
bye. Cba to read the thread. I follow rayn till majority tells me not too. I will filter on my name.
Could vote Koshi.
This is like his 5th post and he has just repeated that he will sheep Rayn and not read anything else.
Actually I probably just dislike that he is not only wasting a slot, but also being a waste of space in the thread.
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On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:
Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him.
Hey now...
I am quite capable at fucking up really bad as Town too, thank you very much.
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On June 27 2018 02:30 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?
I need two on each category. I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy. I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now. I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax. I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too. Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants. Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him. But werent you calling me scum for focusing on inactives? o_O
She has since changed her mind.
I'm actually finding myself agreeing quite a bit with Calix here, based on how things are going there is a very good chance that at least 2 mafia are in boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy.
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On June 27 2018 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
Man tt your mafia game is so off
I can't tell if you are calling me Mafia here or just Bad.
I'm going to assume Mafia, kus I don't think you've ever considered me good.
Actually I personally feel like I had my peak years ago during the PYP game from like 3 years ago that ryan necro'd a little while ago.
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On June 27 2018 03:08 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 03:01 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2018 22:24 Vivax wrote:
Scary amount of nonsense that I had to read so far. Am I the only one to have googled that wall of text post and found it on several other sites after conversion said that it's copypasta? It's like rayn went completely ham over the wording of something that wasn't even generated by the poster which in turn generated a ton of discussion that is barely bearable to read cause it feels like a pointless thing to discuss to me. Yes you were the only one who wasted their time on this. You read "scary amounts of nonsense" (which I assume means you are caught up) and this was the only thing worth talking about in your mind? Seeing that you also threw down a vote on Cake for next to nothing shortly after this I'll just add you to the list. Regfan/Calix/Vivax Why exactly do you town-read CopCake so strongly that you'll call her 'almost lock town' and accuse two players of being mafia at least in part because of CopCake-related reasons? You have not explained this read at all.
I suppose it's mostly meta when you get down to it.
Cake in my experience has a very hard time being free-flowing and sharing as much of her thought process like she has this game when she is mafia. Otherwise I think her tone has been on point, and not only can I easily follow her train of thought most of the time, but I generally agree with it.
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On June 27 2018 03:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 03:23 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said.
Expand on this plz. Most of his posts are arbitrarily saying to lynch you. Perhaps it's the posts that don't say that that I like? 
Fine, be a pedantic donkey.
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On June 27 2018 05:24 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 05:15 Tictock wrote:On June 27 2018 00:45 Calix wrote:
I also hate your last line and not because it's mafia-indicative but because it means that yet ANOTHER person is not willing to work with me -___- Don't take it as that, I'm just going gung-ho with my initial reads this game rather than being a tad passive in the early stages. Always open to re-evaluation. As such, while nothing has stood out to me as clearly Town!Calix I no longer think you are lock scum. Though it's just me being swayed by tone more than anything specific really. I think I am going with the strategy of building a solid group of people I think are town and sorting out the Mafia from the remainder this phase. Right now I think my town list is Rayn, Cake, Mocsta, and I'm probably going to add HF and Conversion but am less sure about them atm (though I'm pretty unlikely to want to lynch them today regardless). why am I a waffle town
Mostly kus you keep questioning why people townread you, seems like an odd thing to do as mafia.
The rest of your play I could go either way about. I seem to recall you having a decent mafia game, and in general I have little experience playing with you.
Based on my instinct though you are pretty likely to be town here, I just have very little reason to back that up.
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I am removing Mocsta from my town pool, until further notice.
That is all.
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Yea it was these couple of posts.
On June 27 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:Im re-reading the game before continuing where I finished last night (circa p13). Apologies if this is cock-blocking active discussion. Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.
Thus it's not AI.
I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.[/] On June 26 2018 09:50 Regfan wrote:
I've played a little over 20 games, although most of them I wouldn't qualify as real games. I'm from Westeros, where we play alted games with usually pretty short deadlines. Regfan has been mentoring me for a while now, and my love for process comes from him. I'm good at some of the things he's terrible at, like having a personality, and he's good at some of the things I'm terrible at (nothing comes to mind right now), so we complement each other pretty well I think.
-G I'm going to go out on a limb that Regfan is town because of this interaction (and how important it is to Gemma later in D1 when talking to Rayn). Gemma got so "horny" to share some info about herself - which in her mind is pivotal to town success; that she later interprets the post from Calix to be (positively) conclusive; when merely it is asking for token info that could be discerned as the game progresses. I can't picture a world where mafia would BOTH lap up the opportunity to talk about themselves AND strongly advocate the post as a basis for town+scum reads. Definitely one or the other, but not both.
This town read makes absolutely no sense to me. I get that I am probably a little tunneled on Reg myself, possibly even just due to the Hydra thing, but this feels super forced.
& Post #426, his Calix case, which kept breaking my post for some reason.
It feels off how Mocsta is presenting these things from basically the begging of the game like he just discovered them. I could maybe see the first one but the second post about Calix's 3rd post feels more like something he dug up and realized he could write a whole bunch about it.
The post about Calix especially bugs me kus I brought this up withing the first few hours of the game, and eventually dismissed it as being rather flimsy. Mocsta was definitely around then, but had no reaction so it is so weird he is taking such emphasis with it now.
Idk, those posts gave me weird vibes when I read them and so I took a quick glance through Mocsta's filter. Everything just felt so flippant in his posts up until the last few hours, then suddenly a bunch of effort posts, a fairly shitty list post, and this "case" on Calix. By flippant here I mean there is no clear reads or direction in his posting. Feels like he suddenly decided to put out the effort.
There is a bit more, but I don't feel like writing a full essay here. And I already put it so eloquently in my last post.
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Oh actually I did almost forget one thing.
[B]On June 27 2018 00:14 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:12 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.
Not sure this is AI, but this is your recollection of me based on that bastard game where You, me, and DF got our own QT and I convinced myself you were mafia based off the ring nonsense the hosts threw at us? I'm just not sure I've ever seen anyone describe my playstyle like this before. ... Heh, it just now strikes me that we are both referring to this as "not sure if AI", lol. yes. That one game. I was confirmed town and you refused to change ya view kn the world It stuck with me lol I will filter dive you on d2 as you arent in my d1 pool
Calix was 100% right about this, my memory was faulty and I was getting Mocsta mixed up with Grack in This game. It's odd that Mocsta would have had no clue what I was talking about but still replied "yea that one." I would be willing to write this point off as whatever since it doesn't scream mafia, but you should remember Mocsta keeps using his meta as a basis to read me. So the fact he is so blase about which game we last played in is super off.
+ Show Spoiler +Side note: In the last game he was actually referring too, now that I remember, there was like 5 blues. I was rolecop and he was Vig. So the fact that I was doubtful of the claim does not represent the true extent of my ability to crazy tunnel.
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I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.
I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.
Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.
Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).
I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now.
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@Cake
I will look into your case either as I go to bed, or when I get up in the morning.
But I want you to imagine if you thought there was even like a 70% chance Rayn was mafia, but you really weren't sure. Would you feel like the best lynch D1 would be Rayn?
This is an obvious appeal to emotion, but I think that is the best way to explain to you where I am sitting on Calix atm.
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On June 27 2018 14:03 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.
I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.
Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.
Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).
I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now. Where is slendy in this? Why do you suddenly protect Calix?
I actually forgot there were so many people wasting space in this game. Geezus, can TL mafia ever do better than 1/3 of the game being afk?
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On June 27 2018 14:04 CopCake wrote:
TT dont lose meeeeeeeeee!
😩
Dude, I just need to get some sleep. I'll be back later and prob even read a bit more after my shower and such.
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On June 27 2018 14:05 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 14:04 Tictock wrote:
@Cake
I will look into your case either as I go to bed, or when I get up in the morning.
But I want you to imagine if you thought there was even like a 70% chance Rayn was mafia, but you really weren't sure. Would you feel like the best lynch D1 would be Rayn?
This is an obvious appeal to emotion, but I think that is the best way to explain to you where I am sitting on Calix atm. Are you dating Calix?
Lol, no.
Just setting the stage.
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Oh before I shower I will say
@ Mocsta
Sorry I don't really do the whole interacting to sus people out. If I had any specific questions to you I'd ask, but I'm actually just mulling over my thoughts as I have them. I wasn't even going to elaborate on why I wasn't sure about you anymore till I had slept on it, but things just started flowing so I posted it.
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