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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 18:42 GMT
#1381
Like, rayn is weirdly stubborn, but no worries he's still town ... what's the point of the post then ?

It looks like fuba is annoyed that rayn is not voting for Jealous' counterwagon, and he wants to say it, but he doesn't want to say rayn is scum. It's a roundabout way to say "rayn is bad".

It looks like fuba is trying to get rayn to vote Koshi over Jealous, without looking like he's doing exactly that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 18:43 GMT
#1382
On May 27 2018 06:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 06:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Holyflare are you still scum reading Rayn?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

what did you mean by that picture ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 18:48 GMT
#1383
On May 27 2018 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
ahhhhhhh gb is just mafia

there is no way he thinks the above

NO WAY!

He comes back after scum reading grack and rayn WHO I EVEN CASED AND GB AGREED WITH AND I VOTED to say that he doesn't like the wagon because I'm on it because I never voted rayn and didn't reevaluate rayn??????????? He also says the wagon is formed based on a flimsy rayn read but town reads rayn but clearly this post says rayn is posting an outdated read (so how the fuck does his town read on rayn even form) but then votes on the policy wagon rayn started?????????

This anger seems genuine. And it also makes sense with the end of D1, where HF thought GB was trying to save Jealous and did his trap
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:02 GMT
#1384
On May 27 2018 07:36 fuba wrote:
I filtered him and I'm not sure anymore -_-

Koshi's whole "GB, use this post to defend yourself later" thing seems genuine town.

Oh yeah. There is this too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:04 GMT
#1385
There are some things wrong with that post.

First, that means fuba voted Koshi in the first place without reading his filter ? Which was not long at all.
Second, even though fuba is now townreading Koshi, he won't switch to Jealous or DF until the deadline. This doesn't make sense, because he's not townreading Jealous nor DF.

If he's town, I don't know why he doesn't do any of these things.

If he's scum, this post makes sense though. It comes just after I've posted that I would vote Koshi over Jealous if I couldn't get my DF lynch:
On May 27 2018 07:17 Rels wrote:
Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy

Before my post, if nothing changed, you could assume Jealous was the lynch; after my post, if nothing else changed, Koshi would be the lynch, as my vote would hammer him. So to me, this post looks like fuba finally got his Koshi lynch, and is already preparing for Koshi flipping town, to look better after the flip.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:06 GMT
#1386
On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.

this is why fuba is not voting for Jealous, instead of Koshi, even though he now townread Koshi.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:08 GMT
#1387
On May 27 2018 07:54 Rels wrote:
I don't think GB is scum. I hate this EOD though. Team is probably something like DF / dyl / fuba, and just letting the lynch happen

Unless HF fooled me, I was right 2/3 D1
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 19:16 GMT
#1388
So why did I say anything about thinking Koshi could be town at all? As scum I could have just sat there with a good case against him provided by town rayn.

Also, I've been over my d1 vote twice now. My vote was either a throwaway at that point, or I could have randomly switched to DF to divert the lynch. Jealous was definitely getting lynched over Koshi.
@theRealMkfuba07
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:17 GMT
#1389
well, that concludes EOD1. That strengthened my townread on HF, and I think fuba is 1 of the remaining scum.

His actions and posts make sense if they come from scum seeing his partner being a lynch candidate: softly pushing for a counterwagon, preparing for this counterwagon to flip town, not posting more than necessary.

They don't make sense from a town perspective: why voting Koshi without even reading his filter, just on the basis of one post ? Why not switch after townreading the dude you're voting for ? Why not call rayn scum instead of calling his behaviour weird but still town ?

I don't know who is his partner between DF and byj. Both have things for and against. I'll continue reading the other days.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:18 GMT
#1390
On June 04 2018 04:16 fuba wrote:
So why did I say anything about thinking Koshi could be town at all? As scum I could have just sat there with a good case against him provided by town rayn.

Also, I've been over my d1 vote twice now. My vote was either a throwaway at that point, or I could have randomly switched to DF to divert the lynch. Jealous was definitely getting lynched over Koshi.

I think you townread Koshi at that point because I just posted that I would switch to Koshi, so you were preparing Koshi flipping town.
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 19:22 GMT
#1391
On June 04 2018 04:17 Rels wrote:
well, that concludes EOD1. That strengthened my townread on HF, and I think fuba is 1 of the remaining scum.

His actions and posts make sense if they come from scum seeing his partner being a lynch candidate: softly pushing for a counterwagon, preparing for this counterwagon to flip town, not posting more than necessary.

They don't make sense from a town perspective: why voting Koshi without even reading his filter, just on the basis of one post ? Why not switch after townreading the dude you're voting for ? Why not call rayn scum instead of calling his behaviour weird but still town ?


I've explained my vote clearly and it makes sense. And I didn't call rayn scum because it wasn't inherently scummy without a flip.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 19:23 GMT
#1392
On June 04 2018 04:18 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 04:16 fuba wrote:
So why did I say anything about thinking Koshi could be town at all? As scum I could have just sat there with a good case against him provided by town rayn.

Also, I've been over my d1 vote twice now. My vote was either a throwaway at that point, or I could have randomly switched to DF to divert the lynch. Jealous was definitely getting lynched over Koshi.

I think you townread Koshi at that point because I just posted that I would switch to Koshi, so you were preparing Koshi flipping town.

That's absurd.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 19:26 GMT
#1393
So in your mind, no scum will sit on a legit wagon until the end without conceding the lynch might be town?

Rayn's reasoning was solid on koshi. There is literally no reason for scum Fuba to just throw out that Koshi might be town and then sit on him.
@theRealMkfuba07
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:36 GMT
#1394
On June 04 2018 04:26 fuba wrote:
So in your mind, no scum will sit on a legit wagon until the end without conceding the lynch might be town?

Rayn's reasoning was solid on koshi. There is literally no reason for scum Fuba to just throw out that Koshi might be town and then sit on him.

I don't understand the question.

Well, I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum p: but this is wrong, your attitude makes perfect sense if you're scum. You can arguee all you want, you stayed on Jealous's counterwagon until the end, even though you thought he was town. This is a fact, and it doesn't make sense if you're town. Your explanations are less believable than you being scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:38 GMT
#1395
I'm not impossible to convince, especially in LYLO, but that's gonna be hard. Why should I vote someone else ? Your case against HF being alive D4 would make sense in other and longer games, but in this game I can see almost any scumteam without HF not shooting HF, given his play this game.
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 19:51 GMT
#1396
On June 04 2018 04:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 04:26 fuba wrote:
So in your mind, no scum will sit on a legit wagon until the end without conceding the lynch might be town?

Rayn's reasoning was solid on koshi. There is literally no reason for scum Fuba to just throw out that Koshi might be town and then sit on him.

I don't understand the question.

Well, I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum p: but this is wrong, your attitude makes perfect sense if you're scum. You can arguee all you want, you stayed on Jealous's counterwagon until the end, even though you thought he was town. This is a fact, and it doesn't make sense if you're town. Your explanations are less believable than you being scum.

You're saying that scum Fuba saw the possibility of the person he's trying to mislynch actually being lynched, and decided that instead of riding out the solid case (for D1) that brought him to that mislynch, he would suggest that that person might actually be town, eliminating any defense he might have later in the game (now). There is NO reason for scum Fuba to do that.
@theRealMkfuba07
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 19:56 GMT
#1397
On June 04 2018 04:51 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 04:36 Rels wrote:
On June 04 2018 04:26 fuba wrote:
So in your mind, no scum will sit on a legit wagon until the end without conceding the lynch might be town?

Rayn's reasoning was solid on koshi. There is literally no reason for scum Fuba to just throw out that Koshi might be town and then sit on him.

I don't understand the question.

Well, I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum p: but this is wrong, your attitude makes perfect sense if you're scum. You can arguee all you want, you stayed on Jealous's counterwagon until the end, even though you thought he was town. This is a fact, and it doesn't make sense if you're town. Your explanations are less believable than you being scum.

You're saying that scum Fuba saw the possibility of the person he's trying to mislynch actually being lynched, and decided that instead of riding out the solid case (for D1) that brought him to that mislynch, he would suggest that that person might actually be town, eliminating any defense he might have later in the game (now). There is NO reason for scum Fuba to do that.

yes. I think it's more likely than town!fuba voting Koshi without reading his filter, and not switching after townreading him. I also see those "rayn is town but him voting Jealous is super obtouse" posts as way more likely coming from scum, 'cause I can see the reasonning in that case: trying to get rayn to switch off Jealous without calling him scum.
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 20:00 GMT
#1398
Eh, then you're hopeless.

At least you're town tho.
@theRealMkfuba07
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 20:11 GMT
#1399
On May 29 2018 19:52 Koshi wrote:
I hope somebody reads my filter in case I die. I am keeping it nice and tidy.

<o/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2018 20:11 GMT
#1400
The case against koshi wasn't solid and was even disproved?
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