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fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 06:35 GMT
#1361
No way scum holds their shot. They're desperate and etc. HF should have been killed by now. It's him for sure.
@theRealMkfuba07
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2018 10:18 GMT
#1362
Why is it weird that the doctor was shot over the person that isn't really playing?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 03 2018 13:21 GMT
#1363
On June 03 2018 15:35 fuba wrote:
No way scum holds their shot. They're desperate and etc. HF should have been killed by now. It's him for sure.

They could easily do so, if they think doctor is doctoring that night. What bothers me is the posts leading up to it:
On May 30 2018 10:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Doctor, don't ever, ever heal me.

On May 30 2018 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
Trust me we'll get a doctor save doctor has to just not be an idiot and do the obvious saves

On May 31 2018 02:46 darthfoley wrote:
I'm sure the doc will make the right move

But I am probably just paranoid.

Speaking of which, I tend to distrust people saying their under the influence. Seems to me like a cheap way to shrug off responsibility.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 15:02 GMT
#1364
On June 03 2018 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
Why is it weird that the doctor was shot over the person that isn't really playing?

yeah this makes no sense fuba ? Did you expect anyone to be killed over Grack tonight ?
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 03 2018 15:29 GMT
#1365
##vote:fuba
Might as well for now
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 03 2018 15:32 GMT
#1366

Day 4 Vote Count



Holyflare [1]: fuba
fuba [1]: byj

Not Voting [3]:
GlowingBear, darthfoley, Holyflare




Holyflare is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Monday, Jun 04 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in

If I've made an error with the vote count, let me know.


ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 15:46 GMT
#1367
I suppose last night's shot made sense - I maintain that HF still should not be alive by d4 if he is town (or by "D3" if we accept last night's nk as a given). He's Marv in death note mafia.

His greatest defense is basically "I'm behaving too scummy for scum to want to shoot me, and that is why I'm town". But he was playing before, and he's still alive.

I have been in zero games where scum held their shot because of a theoretical doc save. Stop pretending you think that scum giving up their most secure chance of killing townies is the most likely action they took that night. Especially if you're not even going after GB, who is the only one who would have benefited from this dastardly ploy of scum not killing anyone in a game where their goal is to kill everyone.
@theRealMkfuba07
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 03 2018 15:54 GMT
#1368
On June 04 2018 00:46 fuba wrote:Stop pretending you think that scum giving up their most secure chance of killing townies is the most likely action they took that night.

I never said so :>
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 15:57 GMT
#1369
On June 04 2018 00:54 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 00:46 fuba wrote:Stop pretending you think that scum giving up their most secure chance of killing townies is the most likely action they took that night.

I never said so :>

Then why keep bringing it up? It just muddies the waters for literally no reason.

It's like me saying "grack lied - he actually saved me that night." Technically possible, but so unlikely as to be basically impossible.
@theRealMkfuba07
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2018 16:08 GMT
#1370
I don't know what to tell you. I'm just not mafia.
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 16:09 GMT
#1371
On June 04 2018 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know what to tell you. I'm just not mafia.

Fine.
@theRealMkfuba07
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2018 16:10 GMT
#1372
I think you going all out on me in lylo after not doing much might make you actually mafia though. It's quite obvious why grack would be a kill and people that I think are town (and byj who I actually need to look into) also agree. He was a doctor, there's nothing more to it. You then spin that to mean I must be mafia and when people disagree you rewrite the narrative. It's not good play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2018 16:11 GMT
#1373
I'm going to try and figure this out today though so we'll see where I end up. I'm sorry I let the game get like this after day 1 and I should have been prodding you all for activity but meh. That's how things go.
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 16:18 GMT
#1374
On June 04 2018 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
I think you going all out on me in lylo after not doing much might make you actually mafia though. It's quite obvious why grack would be a kill and people that I think are town (and byj who I actually need to look into) also agree. He was a doctor, there's nothing more to it. You then spin that to mean I must be mafia and when people disagree you rewrite the narrative. It's not good play.

I haven't rewritten anything.
@theRealMkfuba07
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2018 16:19 GMT
#1375
On June 04 2018 01:18 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
I think you going all out on me in lylo after not doing much might make you actually mafia though. It's quite obvious why grack would be a kill and people that I think are town (and byj who I actually need to look into) also agree. He was a doctor, there's nothing more to it. You then spin that to mean I must be mafia and when people disagree you rewrite the narrative. It's not good play.

I haven't rewritten anything.


Your first narrative was that I am alive today and it doesn't make sense that I wasn't shot after grack.

Your second narrative is that the grack shot makes sense but that I shouldn't be alive either.

Why should I not be alive when I've been playing like I have? What night would I have been shot?
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 03 2018 16:39 GMT
#1376
On June 04 2018 01:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 01:18 fuba wrote:
On June 04 2018 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
I think you going all out on me in lylo after not doing much might make you actually mafia though. It's quite obvious why grack would be a kill and people that I think are town (and byj who I actually need to look into) also agree. He was a doctor, there's nothing more to it. You then spin that to mean I must be mafia and when people disagree you rewrite the narrative. It's not good play.

I haven't rewritten anything.


Your first narrative was that I am alive today and it doesn't make sense that I wasn't shot after grack.

Your second narrative is that the grack shot makes sense but that I shouldn't be alive either.

Why should I not be alive when I've been playing like I have? What night would I have been shot?

Oh, I wouldn't consider that a narrative. My narrative is that long post from a while ago. About how you're playing for endgame. And oh look - after a full game of basically ignoring me, you're going to start looking at me now (saving me for later). Actually, you're going to start looking at me and byj, the specific two that I mentioned I that previous post lol.

What makes me more likely as scum to be oblivious to the fact that grack was obviously a better shot than you last night? If anything, I'd think that if I was scum that'd be the last thing I'd say because it would be too obvious to me, as I've literally just killed him cuz he's the doctor.

Also, I would have shot you n2 if I was scum and you were town. Or n1, but definitely by n2. You're good enough at solving games that even if you're not being particularly active, I don't want you sticking around.
@theRealMkfuba07
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2018 17:45 GMT
#1377
I've explained why I've ignored the majority of you? I also didn't call you definitely mafia. The game is open wide and I'm going to look into everybody. It's just I said byj because he was one of the people that countered your shit argument and wasn't a town read.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 18:22 GMT
#1378
On June 04 2018 01:39 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 01:19 Holyflare wrote:
On June 04 2018 01:18 fuba wrote:
On June 04 2018 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
I think you going all out on me in lylo after not doing much might make you actually mafia though. It's quite obvious why grack would be a kill and people that I think are town (and byj who I actually need to look into) also agree. He was a doctor, there's nothing more to it. You then spin that to mean I must be mafia and when people disagree you rewrite the narrative. It's not good play.

I haven't rewritten anything.


Your first narrative was that I am alive today and it doesn't make sense that I wasn't shot after grack.

Your second narrative is that the grack shot makes sense but that I shouldn't be alive either.

Why should I not be alive when I've been playing like I have? What night would I have been shot?

Oh, I wouldn't consider that a narrative. My narrative is that long post from a while ago. About how you're playing for endgame. And oh look - after a full game of basically ignoring me, you're going to start looking at me now (saving me for later). Actually, you're going to start looking at me and byj, the specific two that I mentioned I that previous post lol.

What makes me more likely as scum to be oblivious to the fact that grack was obviously a better shot than you last night? If anything, I'd think that if I was scum that'd be the last thing I'd say because it would be too obvious to me, as I've literally just killed him cuz he's the doctor.

Also, I would have shot you n2 if I was scum and you were town. Or n1, but definitely by n2. You're good enough at solving games that even if you're not being particularly active, I don't want you sticking around.

I don't know if I believe that. It would be true is most games, but in this game, GB was always the towniest player, while HF was not, even having a few votes on him at some point.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 18:22 GMT
#1379
Now I'm gonna reread the most important parts of the thread. First of them, EOD1, as it's likely the key of the game is there.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2018 18:41 GMT
#1380
On May 27 2018 05:31 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 05:25 Holyflare wrote:
rayn you're not even voting koshi?

This is starting to bother me. I know rayn can be stubborn (at least that's how I consider him), but I think he's actually on to something with Koshi and he's still not voting him to sit on a policy lynch.

I don't think they're both scum together, and I still thought rayn was town, but there's stubborn and there's this.

this post bothers me.
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